IAF Drama l Radar images proves that Abhinandan downed Pakistan F-16

[1Paki$tani]

While we are discussing as to whether F-16 was downed or not we should also discuss or attempt to clarify what PAF actually did to India.

Here is my take on all of this. I will divide it into two parts.

SOW Attack
PAF using Mirages with H-4 attacked Indian Installation, keeping in mind what ISPR has said about target selection and attack on open field. Our attack on their installation or nearby grounds required more than one strike Air Craft. If such strike force was coming they would have detected something was up and would have been up in the Air straight way.

I believe either the main strike air crafts were never in formation, though they are part of the attack parcel but they did not fly in formation. As total of 6 targets were hit thus unless more than one plane attacked a particular place, they did not converge into single formation. This was coupled with Pakistan EW which blinded their radar system. They had no clue as to what has happened.

This attack was traumatic as to how it was carried out and target selection.

Once this part of the Attack concluded PAF moved into the next phase.

DOWNING OF PLANES

Unlike many members suggesting that the real thing was SOW attack and downing of plane was just an icing on the cake. But I believe it was part of the whole plan and these planes were drawn into an ambush.

The downing of the plane was important as the whole thing occurred during the day and with downing of plane in day light it would have massive optics for Pakistan. We saw all that on local and international tv. This was a significant psychological attack on India. My take on this.

This whole part was done in stages.

Stage one was to set up ambush for IAF. PAF knew it is most likely they will send in MIG 21 for intercept they also knew that Indian will attempt to use Mig-21 with it radar off and it would be relying on Su-30 or AWAC until it sneaks up onto Pakistan planes and than using WVR and HMDS targeting it will take out PAF Planes. Similar to what they did in 2004 USA exercise. Their strategy was well know and this was best for them to use it at due to many factors including terrain.

PAF knowing this set up the whole ambush. They first generated Spoofs/Ghost to appear on Indian radar, and when they saw that they go excited and sent in Abinandan and his wingman deploying the tactics they used against USA in 2004 exercies. Ie MIG-21 had their radar turned off and SU-30 guiding it ( i firmly believe their AWAC was no in air).

Once Abinandan reach the place where the radar was showing the air crafts he could not find it. At that stage PAF implemented radio jamming and completely cutting him off with SU-30. He became a sitting duck with his radar off and he exposed himself by coming up to target the decoy where disappeared of their radar.

Once IAF realised that they walked into a trap they tried to radio him and his wingman back but due to radio jamming they could not get the message.

This also explains how abinandan said he was searching for PAF planes when he got shot down, as he was directed towards decoys. Thus both abinandan and his wingman was shutdown where his wingman was lucky to escape back.

I also believe, if one reads between the lines of ISPR statement, PAF shot down 2 Mig 21 which are confirmed and possible 3rd plane being SU-30mki.

 

[Chaukidaar]

So DG ISPR returned a hand made drawing as a proof....

Till now no adequate proof shown by Pakistan but just a flip flops of random tweets which are added & deleted time & again. Not to mention initially, many shown photos were photoshopped which were of old IAF crashes. And this too in an International level!! The World knows this behavior of Pakistan when they shown a Gaza girl photo in UN faked as a Kashmiri girl. What a Shame!!!!

ANd now, "First, we didn't use F-16 ...then ..all our AF were in air..then we have the right to use anywhere!!". Why you have to make up so much? If you use it, tell you use it. Why so fear? Instead you made a mockery of yourself everywhere.

While Indian MEA shown professionalism & gave only correct information & didn't divulge here & there. Initially, i was somewhat believing DG ISPR but now ....

I must say instead of just tweeting "Hume kiya Humne kiya" ..why don't show some solid proof. Just by fantasizing JF-17 killed MKI & MIG-21 doesn't make anything.

 

[1Paki$tani]

So DG ISPR returned a hand made drawing as a proof....

Till now no adequate proof shown by Pakistan but just a flip flops of random tweets which are added & deleted time & again. Not to mention initially, many shown photos were photoshopped which were of old IAF crashes. And this too in an International level!! The World knows this behavior of Pakistan when they shown a Gaza girl photo in UN faked as a Kashmiri girl. What a Shame!!!!

ANd now, "First, we didn't use F-16 ...then ..all our AF were in air..then we have the right to use anywhere!!". Why you have to make up so much? If you use it, tell you use it. Why so fear? Instead you made a mockery of yourself everywhere.

While Indian MEA shown professionalism & gave only correct information & didn't divulge here & there. Initially, i was somewhat believing DG ISPR but now ....

I must say instead of just tweeting "Hume kiya Humne kiya" ..why don't show some solid proof. Just by fantasizing JF-17 killed MKI & MIG-21 doesn't make anything.

Lol.... Go back to sleep. You guys are just getting up from the deep slumber after beating of 27 February 2019. Only thing that your air force has done is held up AMRAAM as most tangible evidence. But that only points to usage of F-16 and Firing of AMRAAM.

Now first thing that you dimwit need to do is look at the AMRAAM and ask yourself why is the metal pushed outwards? A normal answer is when the warhead exploded the shockwave was directed outwards thus pushing the metal outward and leaving the hole. Oh so it exploded? Great if it exploded that mean the radar and proximity sensor armed the warhead when it was near its target. Thus the target would have gone down? So what went down cough up?

Also werent it you guys who said that all planes and pilots are accounted for until many hours later when Abinandan was shown with destroyed air craft.

Go back to smoking that stuff, because you will feel that you are king of the world.

As for fantasising, well that can only be done by Indians with their hypersonic Tejas.

 

[Sully3]

So DG ISPR returned a hand made drawing as a proof....

Till now no adequate proof shown by Pakistan but just a flip flops of random tweets which are added & deleted time & again. Not to mention initially, many shown photos were photoshopped which were of old IAF crashes. And this too in an International level!! The World knows this behavior of Pakistan when they shown a Gaza girl photo in UN faked as a Kashmiri girl. What a Shame!!!!

ANd now, "First, we didn't use F-16 ...then ..all our AF were in air..then we have the right to use anywhere!!". Why you have to make up so much? If you use it, tell you use it. Why so fear? Instead you made a mockery of yourself everywhere.

While Indian MEA shown professionalism & gave only correct information & didn't divulge here & there. Initially, i was somewhat believing DG ISPR but now ....

I must say instead of just tweeting "Hume kiya Humne kiya" ..why don't show some solid proof. Just by fantasizing JF-17 killed MKI & MIG-21 doesn't make anything.

Indian street cleaners of IAF produced the radar images on microsoft paint 1998 which is hilarious in it self. one search on twitter and you can see the whole world mocking indian "radar images"

Indians claim they have radio intercepts of the f16 yet IAF couldnt communicate with the mig-21 or the mi17 that was shot down.

please choose a story and stick to it.

 

[loanranger]

Look guy

why dont you ask your govt, why they close the airspace for more than a week and no one allowed to enter into that bombing area? if no one dead why not even allow a international media to name and shame us?



ha ha ha by hiding their own loss... very well said. the arrested 2nd pilot who is safe, but injured and getting treatment in CMS is now gone to hell... so sad. confirmed by pakistan PM, DGISPR and some one in the pakistan parliament...

Look guys a fresh Indian chump who thinks hes got it all worked out.....

 

[Khatri_pune]

1971 War: When Pakistan tried to prove no loss theory of Mirage-III against India
http://idrw.org/1971-war-when-pakistan-tried-to-prove-no-loss-theory-of-mirage-iii-against-india/ .

Why should it be so difficult for the Pakistani air force to admit that it lost one of it F-16 against vastly inferior Indian Mig-21 recently? It isn’t for the first time anywhere in the world that an F-16 has been lost in a dogfight and the fact remains that on Oct. 1996, a HAF Mirage 2000 fired an R.550 Magic II air to air missile that shot down a Turkish F-16D that had violated the Greek airspace so why it is so difficult for most of the Pakistani citizens to believe that their larger then life F-16 can actually be shot down and it is not for the first time Pakistani air force tried to claim no loss fakery which it even tried after end of the 1971 war with India. Pakistani Army’s Instrument of Surrender happened on 16 December 1971 and a new country called as Bangladesh was created with help of the Indian Army.

Pakistani air force some in the Pakistani army said was fighting its own war, mostly to wage a propaganda war against Indian air force by largely concentrating its interception missions within its own airspace and limiting aerial supports for its own troops and a negligible amount of missions across the Indian border. when IAF claimed that it has brought down multiple numbers of PAF’s latest acquisition which was Mirage-III fighter jets from France after the war, PAF refused to acknowledge any loss and instead launched a major propaganda campaign asked then IAF chief come visit and count them in person.

Nearly 22 Mirage-III fighter jets were assembled in one airbase and with much funfair western media reporters were called in to count the jets for them self. PAF claimed that 24 Mirage-III fighter jets were delivered to them before the war and one was lost before the war in a training sortie and one was under maintenance which practically debunked IAF claims of shooting down 2-3 Mirage-III at that time. As expected Pakistani state media along with western media reporters with a biased tilt towards Pakistan went full on the propaganda warfare and called IAF a lier that no one actually bothered to check anything with France. Since most of the noted claims of IAF happened inside Pakistani airspace, IAF was in the same position as today and had to rely on Pilots admission of each kill. No debris meant, no proof of the kill and the propaganda almost succeeded but the French government finally broke its silence and through diplomatic channel confirmed to India and some other countries that Mirage-III delivered to Pakistan before 1971 war actually was 28 and not 24 as claimed by PAF in the propaganda stunt in front of International media, which actually meant that PAF had suffered heavy damages or suffered total loss of at least 4 Mirage-III in 1971 war which was never accepted by PAF.

Reports of PAF receiving three Mirage-III from an Arab Country most likely from Libya was also never reported by PAF but it was largely assumed that those batch of jets arrived too late when the war was in last stages and fall of Dhaka was imminent. F-104 loaned by Jordan to Pakistan before the war was also lost to IAF Mig-21 in an aerial dogfight which IAF never knew belonged to Jordan. IAF had claimed that Two Gnat pilots along with one Hunter and Mig-21 pilot had claimed to have shot down a Mirage-III but PAF refuted those claims and tried a propaganda stunt in front of International media which almost succeeded till French Government came clean.

No F-16 loss propaganda too will be difficult for IAF to proof since there is no debris nor any pilot in captivity. PAF may try to pull same propaganda stunt again if they manage to get some help from its close allies like Jordan and Turkey who also operate F-16 fleet and also have few non-operational F-16s to be loaned for propaganda purpose unless Uncle Sam decides to come clean and finally spills the beans.

idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/1971-war-when-pakistan-tried-to-prove-no-loss-theory-of-mirage-iii-against-india/ .

 

[Skywalker]

Another fucker from the eastern neighbour trying to prove from his behind. Did you make a full count of your aircrafts chootiyye. And what source you are quoting for mirage loss a low level endian blog. So can you tell us what diplomatic channel you got this news from France. It’s only possible in India where they are showing a broken part of amraam as a prove, Rather wasting time here, go and ask your IAF to provide prove, other wise It will cost you more cups of tea.

 

[ColonelSanders]

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1971 War: When Pakistan tried to prove no loss theory of Mirage-III against India
http://idrw.org/1971-war-when-pakistan-tried-to-prove-no-loss-theory-of-mirage-iii-against-india/ .

Why should it be so difficult for the Pakistani air force to admit that it lost one of it F-16 against vastly inferior Indian Mig-21 recently? It isn’t for the first time anywhere in the world that an F-16 has been lost in a dogfight and the fact remains that on Oct. 1996, a HAF Mirage 2000 fired an R.550 Magic II air to air missile that shot down a Turkish F-16D that had violated the Greek airspace so why it is so difficult for most of the Pakistani citizens to believe that their larger then life F-16 can actually be shot down and it is not for the first time Pakistani air force tried to claim no loss fakery which it even tried after end of the 1971 war with India. Pakistani Army’s Instrument of Surrender happened on 16 December 1971 and a new country called as Bangladesh was created with help of the Indian Army.

Pakistani air force some in the Pakistani army said was fighting its own war, mostly to wage a propaganda war against Indian air force by largely concentrating its interception missions within its own airspace and limiting aerial supports for its own troops and a negligible amount of missions across the Indian border. when IAF claimed that it has brought down multiple numbers of PAF’s latest acquisition which was Mirage-III fighter jets from France after the war, PAF refused to acknowledge any loss and instead launched a major propaganda campaign asked then IAF chief come visit and count them in person.

Nearly 22 Mirage-III fighter jets were assembled in one airbase and with much funfair western media reporters were called in to count the jets for them self. PAF claimed that 24 Mirage-III fighter jets were delivered to them before the war and one was lost before the war in a training sortie and one was under maintenance which practically debunked IAF claims of shooting down 2-3 Mirage-III at that time. As expected Pakistani state media along with western media reporters with a biased tilt towards Pakistan went full on the propaganda warfare and called IAF a lier that no one actually bothered to check anything with France. Since most of the noted claims of IAF happened inside Pakistani airspace, IAF was in the same position as today and had to rely on Pilots admission of each kill. No debris meant, no proof of the kill and the propaganda almost succeeded but the French government finally broke its silence and through diplomatic channel confirmed to India and some other countries that Mirage-III delivered to Pakistan before 1971 war actually was 28 and not 24 as claimed by PAF in the propaganda stunt in front of International media, which actually meant that PAF had suffered heavy damages or suffered total loss of at least 4 Mirage-III in 1971 war which was never accepted by PAF.

Reports of PAF receiving three Mirage-III from an Arab Country most likely from Libya was also never reported by PAF but it was largely assumed that those batch of jets arrived too late when the war was in last stages and fall of Dhaka was imminent. F-104 loaned by Jordan to Pakistan before the war was also lost to IAF Mig-21 in an aerial dogfight which IAF never knew belonged to Jordan. IAF had claimed that Two Gnat pilots along with one Hunter and Mig-21 pilot had claimed to have shot down a Mirage-III but PAF refuted those claims and tried a propaganda stunt in front of International media which almost succeeded till French Government came clean.

No F-16 loss propaganda too will be difficult for IAF to proof since there is no debris nor any pilot in captivity. PAF may try to pull same propaganda stunt again if they manage to get some help from its close allies like Jordan and Turkey who also operate F-16 fleet and also have few non-operational F-16s to be loaned for propaganda purpose unless Uncle Sam decides to come clean and finally spills the beans.

idrw.org .Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website http://idrw.org/1971-war-when-pakistan-tried-to-prove-no-loss-theory-of-mirage-iii-against-india/ .

Why is this so difficult to understand for you retards that Pakistan did not lose any aircraft on 27th?
I am genuinely amazed at how Indians have such low iq.
1971 was almost 5 decades ago. India had the upper hand in 1971 only because of Bengali traitors.
Now open your eyes and look around you. Its 2019 now where your IAF has emerged as a symbol of failure and your politicians and media has been branded as shameless and hypocrite by the world.
Still want to live in dreamland? You are welcome.

 

[Shane]

if they manage to get some help from its close allies like Jordan and Turkey who also operate F-16 fleet and also have few non-operational F-16s to be loaned for propaganda purpose

Lol, if we manage F16 to be loaned for propaganda by Jordan or Turkey, lol, new level achieved by Indians.

@war&peace @PakSword @Tps43 The mental aptitude displayed by indians getting more and more astounding, lol.

 

[war&peace]

Lol, if we manage F16 to be loaned for propaganda by Jordan or Turkey, lol, new level achieved by Indians.

@war&peace @PakSword @Tps43 The mental aptitude displayed by indians getting more and more astounding, lol.

Man, we don't need to respond to these low level crawlers especially since the world is laughing at them and spitting on these shameless liars. No independent major newspaper has bought their crap because it is such an indefensible mega shit. Let's discuss something positive and beneficial for our country.

 

[Trichy]

Air space was closed so indian monkeys don't try to do something evil again after getting humiliated on 27th February.
If you pull your head out of your ***, you can look up repsonse from international media. Even BBC hindi aired a report on it and they "INTERVIEWED" locals in that area. Do you think BBC Hindi interviewed the locals using telepathy?
No... BBC visited the area and spoke to locals.
Now let's talk about India. If India had ground intelligence that told them about the "Grand Headquarters of terrorists", why couldn't they take a single picture of those "dead terrorists"? Should be easy right?
Why was Modi whining about Rafales? If we believe your narrative, your SU30mki should destroy the PAF easily.
Now answer the questions with "logical responses" otherwise just shut up and crawl back to your hide out.

ok pskistani piggiii

Look guy

Look guys a fresh Indian chump who thinks hes got it all worked out.....

better thn pakistani piggi

 

[ColonelSanders]

There is an article at news18 written by a fucking indian titled
"A Look at IAF Pilot Abhinandan’s MiG-21 That Took Down Pakistan’s F-16 Fighter Jet".

They have already started the propaganda and if articles like this keep getting published, soon this will be the new version of truth like what happened in Kargil.

ok pskistani piggiii


better thn pakistani piggi

When did they let you out of the mental hospital?

 

[Trichy]

When did they let you out of the mental hospital?

the day after you came out of the mental hospital after your treatment

 

[ColonelSanders]

the day after you came out of the mental hospital after your treatment

I didn't see you in the hospital.... Oh yeah you must be in the "brain dead retards" ward. Only indians were admitted in that ward.

 

[Tps43]

Lol, if we manage F16 to be loaned for propaganda by Jordan or Turkey, lol, new level achieved by Indians.

@war&peace @PakSword @Tps43 The mental aptitude displayed by indians getting more and more astounding, lol.

We got F 16s from china acc to indians hahahahahhaahha