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IAF developing parameters for India's manned space mission

There was some news about a postponement, or rather preference and priority of the Mars mission over a manned mission.

There was an agreement with Russia for the Mars mission. I think if the Mars mission completes smoothly then there will be a manned mission.

There is no relation between the two. Man mission is in technology development stage where various groups in ISRO are working on various subsystems required for a successful mission like crew escape system, life support system, crew module, service module etc. Once all the required technologies are developed and tested, then only ISRO will take decision on conducting the manned mission.

For Mars mission, all the required technologies are already with ISRO that is why they are going ahead with the mission and yes its a priority mission for the coming year. ISRO is using chandrayaan satellite bus for the mars mission with changes in thermal, control and propulsion modules. The mars orbiter will have more autonomous features. There is no collaboration with russia on mars mission.
 
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Its good to know that India is working on this. With an Institution like ISRO which has vast experience and Knowledge in space based technologies, I wonder why it took them long. Better late than never. Lets wish ISRO all the very best for this feet. Haters are going to hate for ever, at least we dont intend to send our team inside water and claim we landed on moon.
its budjet..were doing miracles with limited budget..
"The $1.6 billion allocation to the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) in this year’s budget was the highest ever, and is only a meagre increase over last year’s $1.45 billion. That amounts to just 3 percent of the funding earmarked by the US space programme."
Space: India trailing China in the long march | Russia & India Report
 
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Without glsv, India should not worry about man space flight. Get one tech to work first before working on the next. If its working, with India's current multiprone approach to space exploration, GLSV would not be ready until 2017 as it can only perform limited launches per year. After, then human space flight is possible. My own guess would be earliest at 2020but could be as late as 2025

The only thing "hindering" GSLV is it's indigenous cryogenic engine, ISRO is slowly but surely achieving great success, ISRO has now completely tested the engine for full 200 seconds, with this ISRO has scheduled a GSLV flight with an Indian cryogenic engine for 2013. Mind you developing a cryogenic engine is not an easy job, ONLY 6 nation, including India has achieved this feet. With successful launch of 3-4 GSLV mk-2 & 2-3 mk3 in next 4-5 years, i don't see any problem in human spaceflight sometime post-2017.

I'm talking about getting the rocket ready. And it takes more than a few launches before sending a human. India does not have a human space program so this would take a while. when do you envision that India cansend a man to space.

Who said India does not have a human space program?? If u haven't noticed, this very thread is about a HUMAN SPACE PROGRAM.

On Topic- didn's GOI cancel manned mission to concentrate on other priorities..or was it the Mars mission?

Nope GOI has never cancelled a Manned Mission, just postponed it. FYI, GOI already has made budget available for preliminary studies & research in this program in various budgets presented in last 2-3 years. ISRO is working on various tech. needed for the program. In Fact the Planning Commission has approved In Principle, the demand of ISRO of $2.3 billion for this very project.
 
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We all know CHina received significatn help from Russia and ex Russian Defence space scientists. Dont kid yourself. If the IAF is getting ready to plan a manned space launch, then they must know something that is not public yet. SO I suggest Chinese trolls to stop posting comments for which you don;t have a clue about.
 
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The only thing "hindering" GSLV is it's indigenous cryogenic engine, ISRO is slowly but surely achieving great success, ISRO has now completely tested the engine for full 200 seconds, with this ISRO has scheduled a GSLV flight with an Indian cryogenic engine for 2013. Mind you developing a cryogenic engine is not an easy job, ONLY 6 nation, including India has achieved this feet. With successful launch of 3-4 GSLV mk-2 & 2-3 mk3 in next 4-5 years, i don't see any problem in human spaceflight sometime post-2017.



Who said India does not have a human space program?? If u haven't noticed, this very thread is about a HUMAN SPACE PROGRAM.



Nope GOI has never cancelled a Manned Mission, just postponed it. FYI, GOI already has made budget available for preliminary studies & research in this program in various budgets presented in last 2-3 years. ISRO is working on various tech. needed for the program. In Fact the Planning Commission has approved In Principle, the demand of ISRO of $2.3 billion for this very project.

Until India has a reliable GLSV system, any talk about human space flight is way too early. Get a launch vehicle ready first. India needs to learn how to walk before learning how to run.
 
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Until India has a reliable GLSV system, any talk about human space flight is way too early. Get a launch vehicle ready first. India needs to learn how to walk before learning how to run.

Ya you mean steal copy paste , right ??? We never doña learn that. You are world master in that
 
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Ya you mean steal copy paste , right ??? We never doña learn that. You are world master in that

your entire political system was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.
your entire official language was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.

don't forget that loser.

one day indian, always liar.
one day indian, always rapist.
one day indian, always day dreamer.
 
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your entire political system was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.
your entire official language was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.

don't forget that loser.

one day indian, always liar.
one day indian, always rapist.
one day indian, always day dreamer.

do you really get paid for such stupid posts too?
 
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Until India has a reliable GLSV system, any talk about human space flight is way too early. Get a launch vehicle ready first. India needs to learn how to walk before learning how to run.

First learn this.... it is not GLSV....its GSLV:lol:

A GSLV mk2 launch is coming in 2013
4 years are enough for proving human-rating so :wave:

your entire political system was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.
your entire official language was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.

don't forget that loser.

one day indian, always liar.
one day indian, always rapist.
one day indian, always day dreamer.


Once you become a 50 cent CCP fanboy....You are always a stupid slave of CCP
 
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I think it is very very important for india to keep investing on GSLV project. For China, nothing is better than seeing indians keep wasting time and money on this dead project.

what is the failure rate of this rubbish? 80%?
 
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I think it is very very important for india to keep investing on GSLV project. For China, nothing is better than seeing indians keep wasting time and money on this dead project.

what is the failure rate of this rubbish? 80%?


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The Human Spaceflight Programme (HSP) aims to undertake a mission to carry crew of two to LEO and return them safely to a predefined destination on Earth.

The mission will have the following features.


Mission duration is a few hours for the first mission extendable up to seven days
Emergency mission abort and crew escape provision is provided during launch pad, ascent and orbital phases of flight
Crew module has capability to manoeuvre in atmosphere up to a down range of +/- 125 km and cross range of +/- 60 km
Throughout the mission acceleration is within 4 g

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Figure 1: Indian Human spaceflight - Orbital Vehicle

India plans to undertake a human spaceflight programme during the second half of this decade. The configuration selected for the first flight is one with a base diameter of 3.1 m and 14o boat tail angle as shown in Figure 1. The first flight will be for a few low earth orbits.

The entire mission design is done with crew safety as the prime factor under consideration. There is a viable crew escape provision during the entire launch vehicle ascent mission regime. During the initial phase this is achieved by means of a crew escape system (Figure 2) and later utilising the service module propulsion systems.


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Figure 2: Crew Escape System Schematic

The first human spaceflight mission will be followed by longer duration missions, which will include EVA (Extra Vehicular Activity), microgravity experiments with human intervention and monitoring etc. A separate habitat module will be appended and extended missions lasting a month or more will be attempted. Further, human space missions to Moon and Mars are also under study.


Technologies for human spaceflight

Various new and complex technologies are to be developed for the human spaceflight programme. Some of the important ones are listed below.

Crew module systems: Crew Module is the control centre and living quarters of the crew for the entire mission. It has all the sub-systems required to ensure safe and comfortable environment for crew and for mission management.

Crew escape system: Crew escape system ensures safety of crew in case of exigencies. It consists of an Abort Sensing and Implementation System (ASIS) and fast acting solid motors which quickly and automatically removes Crew Module to a safe location in case of an emergency under any impending failures.

Environment control and life support system (ECLSS): ECLSS ensures comfortable environment inside crew cabin by effectively controlling pressure, temperature and humidity. It also caters to the human need for water, air, food and management of waste.

Flight suit: The flight suit is a pressure retention structure. This protects crew under emergencies like an ECLSS failure. It provides all the basic necessities for life support such as breathable oxygen, required pressure, temperature regulation, carbon dioxide removal, clear vision, mobility, communication system, and collection of body wastes.

Mission management with human in the loop: The entire mission design is to be carried out with crew safety as the prime factor. Using human onboard for effective mission management is different from the autonomous missions of normal launch vehicles and satellites.

Redundant navigation, guidance and control system: As part of human rating, the launch vehicle and orbital vehicle avionics should be strengthened to achieve very high reliability with adequate fault tolerance. This calls for better redundancy and fault detection and isolation capability in navigation, guidance and control system, than existing. Quad redundant NGC system for Crew module and TMR for launch vehicle are proposed.

Human-rating of launch vehicle and systems: For human rating of launch vehicle, all flight systems will have to be verified and re-designed, if necessary, to ensure that no two failures shall result in permanent disability or loss of crew life. Features like increased safety margins, added redundancy and increased safety and reliability will be addressed exhaustively.

Simulators for verification, validation and crew training: Numerous static and dynamic simulators are essential for the programme. This includes simulators for qualifying subsystems like avionics, life support systems etc. and simulators for training the crew to get them familiarised with operations during nominal and off-nominal mission scenarios.

Crew health monitoring systems/bio-astronautics: Monitoring health of the crew during mission requires development of sensors, electronics and telemetry. There is a need for initiating studies on Bio-astronautics.

Space medicine: Space medicine is another important area which has to address various discomforts and medical emergencies during space missions along with the needed remedial actions. For sustained long duration space missions, fundamental research on space medicine is essential.

Crew training and required facilities: Crew-training programme should provide astronauts and ground personnel with appropriate knowledge, skills and aptitude required for space missions, on-orbit operations, safety and mission success.

Technologies for deep space missions: For deep space missions lasting months, many new technologies have to be mastered like integrated vehicle health monitoring, advanced propulsion systems, advanced automated rendezvous and capture, robotics, regenerative life support system, extraterrestrial mining, surface habitation, healthcare at remote location and radiation protection systems.

India’s aspirations

India’s space journey started in 1963 with upper atmospheric studies using sounding rockets. After more than four decades, India has a big constellation of government-owned communication and remote sensing satellites serving the country in several application programmes. The launch vehicle services have fully matured to meet the national demands.

Undertaking a human spaceflight in the coming years is an idea that is gaining momentum in the country and is being debated actively. ISRO has carried out detailed studies to assess the feasibility of putting a human in orbit and bringing him/her back safely to a specified destination on earth.

It is always argued that for a country like India, priority should be for poverty eradication, providing drinking water to masses etc. While these sectors should get the needed priority, it is essential to undertake the developments in advanced technologies parallely. The same question was raised 40 years back about our space programme but today the benefits derived from the Indian space programme have far exceeded the initial expectations and has immensely contributed to improve the quality of life of the common man.

As nations and their partners return to moon, ventures to Mars and to points between and beyond, human spaceflight will succeed as it embodies the human quest for exploration and it is one mission that India is bent on making it possible.
 
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you can always fully utilize your big mouth, however, that doesn't change anything.

Havent you answered of Failed JF-17 and F-16 /F-18 on those thread. now came here to get powerful reply.

your entire political system was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.
your entire official language was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.

don't forget that loser.

one day indian, always liar.
one day indian, always rapist.
one day indian, always day dreamer.

Havent to got the Answer? about Failed US , F-16/F-18/M-777 and after that you haven't replied on Chinese Failed JF-17 and failed engine of WS-10 /WS-13 ....??

You came here also.....

your entire political system was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.
your entire official language was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.

don't forget that loser.

one day indian, always liar.
one day indian, always rapist.
one day indian, always day dreamer.

Havent to got the Answer? about Failed US , F-16/F-18/M-777 and after that you haven't replied on Chinese Failed JF-17 and failed engine of WS-10 /WS-13 ....??

You came here also.....
 
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Havent you answered of Failed JF-17 and F-16 /F-18 on those thread. now came here to get powerful reply.



Havent to got the Answer? about Failed US , F-16/F-18/M-777 and after that you haven't replied on Chinese Failed JF-17 and failed engine of WS-10 /WS-13 ....??

You came here also.....



Havent to got the Answer? about Failed US , F-16/F-18/M-777 and after that you haven't replied on Chinese Failed JF-17 and failed engine of WS-10 /WS-13 ....??

You came here also.....

Just because India had failed in LCA and Kavera and now try to distract others from its failures by announcing new projects to get people like you guys excited. And when GSLV fails, the gov will come up with another more outrageous project to get people more excited. This way, India do not need to complete any project, just announce new ones when the previous ones fail. This is some sort of Ponzi scheme to get Indians excited.

Also, F16 and F18 are successful projects. F16 is pretty much the most widely used plane in the free world. But as India is pro soviet, it won't buy US planes. I am starting to oppose selling US weapons to India as India is clearly not pro America.
 
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your entire political system was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.
your entire official language was shamelessly copied and pasted from UK.

don't forget that loser.

one day indian, always liar.
one day indian, always rapist.
one day indian, always day dreamer.

how about your genetic line being copied from a tiny island ? :cheesy:
 
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