IAF Cuts Down Flying Time

[acetophenol]

Huge difference between the NAL Hansa and the Ab-Initio trainer of airforce. Please stop comparing both civilian and military equipment.

I don't know much about it. Can you tell the differences please?

 

[Big Boss]

Nothing more than pathetic ranting, whining and
How exactly have i twisted the title ???...removing your Indian goggles may help.!!
Did i say, the rookies will be fighting your war.... when nothing to add, digression is habitual for you Indians.!!

Are u that lame or just faking it??????????


The real thread title says:

"Shortage of trainer aircraft, so IAF cuts flying time of rookie pilots to one-third"

You have changed it to:


"Shortage of trainer aircraft, so IAF cuts flying time of rookie pilots to one-third"

And added a new word:

"down" which was not there in the real title of the news.


Hence its proved beyond doubts that you have faked and twisted thread title and violated the rules of this forum.


And you should appreciate my manners and upbringing that i am not responding to you personal attacks and racist attack about Indian.

 

[Storm Force]

Rookie could be fighting our future wars.

Dont think cutting flying hours help

i dont think its cost related thankfully ($42 billion next years defense budget) phew big nos

 

[foxbat]

News Headline
Shortage of trainer aircraft, so IAF cuts flying time of rookie pilots to one-third

Windjammer trolling title

IAF Cuts Down Flying Time

 

[satishkumarcsc]

I don't know much about it. Can you tell the differences please?

First of all a civilian equipment dosent require ADA programming or any defence specific programming in software.

The components are also developed especially for military grade for more ruggedness and reliability

The Defence grade equipments are more simpler in construction and are made sure they work even in the failure of another compnent. Error control is higher)

And the whole cockpit is designed to fly a fighter aircraft and making the rookie pilot to get used the the fighter cockpit since the first day unlike the civilian aircraft cockpit.

There are a lot of differences which cant be listed down here...even though they are used for the same purpose the work is different.

 

[foxbat]

Rookie could be fighting our future wars.

Dont think cutting flying hours help

i dont think its cost related thankfully ($42 billion next years defense budget) phew big nos

All it means is that current batch of rookie pilots will take longer to graduate...

 

[rcrmj]

if this is true we are going to see even more crashes in near future

 

[Windjammer]

Are u that lame or just faking it??????????

Neither....but i can see that you need help. !!

The real thread title says:

"Shortage of trainer aircraft, so IAF cuts flying time of rookie pilots to one-third"

You have changed it to:


"Shortage of trainer aircraft, so IAF cuts flying time of rookie pilots to one-third"

And added a new word:

"down" which was not there in the real title of the news.


Hence its proved beyond doubts that you have faked and twisted thread title and violated the rules of this forum.


And you should appreciate my manners and upbringing that i am not responding to you personal attacks and racist attack about Indian.

Allow me to spoon feed......the very first line in the article reads...Indian Air Force has cut down flying time.
Now, if you are unable to comprehend, then by all means come back for more enlightenment.
And your manners are something indeed to be desired since instead of focusing on the subject, you have decided to go on a wild Goose chase.

 

[deckingraj]

Neither....but i can see that you need help. !!


Allow me to spoon feed......the very first line in the article reads...Indian Air Force has cut down flying time.
Now, if you are unable to comprehend, then by all means come back for more enlightenment.
And your manners are something indeed to be desired since instead of focusing on the subject, you have decided to go on a wild Goose chase.

I think the point is very simple...your heading gives an impression that flying time of entire IAF pilots have been reduced which is not the case...

Anyhow it doesn't matter if this is a short term measure(which i believe is the case)...Though i sincerely hope all those mother fu**ers who are responsible for this mess should be hanged in public..

 

[acetophenol]

Hal htt 40 is under development.hal has already htt 35

 

[sans]

First of all a civilian equipment dosent require ADA programming or any defence specific programming in software.

The components are also developed especially for military grade for more ruggedness and reliability

The Defence grade equipments are more simpler in construction and are made sure they work even in the failure of another compnent. Error control is higher)

And the whole cockpit is designed to fly a fighter aircraft and making the rookie pilot to get used the the fighter cockpit since the first day unlike the civilian aircraft cockpit.

There are a lot of differences which cant be listed down here...even though they are used for the same purpose the work is different.

even civilian aircraft also coded in the ADA.That does not depend on the type aircraft but cmponent criticality.they r divided into 5 levels.A is highest.failure of A level components wil cause catastrophic results.A,B,C level components should be coded in ADA.For level D and E C-language can be used.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

even civilian aircraft also coded in the ADA.That does not depend on the type aircraft but cmponent criticality.they r divided into 5 levels.A is highest.failure of A level components wil cause catastrophic results.A,B,C level components should be coded in ADA.For level D and E C-language can be used.

Well thats what I have been telling in my post..but I have put it down in simpler terms.

 

[Windjammer]

I think the point is very simple...your heading gives an impression that flying time of entire IAF pilots have been reduced which is not the case...

Anyhow it doesn't matter if this is a short term measure(which i believe is the case)...Though i sincerely hope all those mother fu**ers who are responsible for this mess should be hanged in public..

Thanks for pointing that out ...... we had some healthy discussions/debates, I assure you that wasn't intentional.
The HPT has been a headache for the IAF for some times now.....fitting them with salvage chutes seemed a bit far fetched.
Did i read some where that IAF was looking into the PC-7 . ??

 

[janon]

Thanks for pointing that out ...... we had some healthy discussions/debates, I assure you that wasn't intentional.
The HPT has been a headache for the IAF for some times now.....fitting them with salvage chutes seemed a bit far fetched.
Did i read some where that IAF was looking into the PC-7 . ??

Not just looking into it, IAF has already selected the PC-7 mkII as its next ab initio trainer aircraft, over the american and south korean rivals. The order is expected to be placed any time now for 75 of these, with a follow on order of another 125 later.

A very good move in my opinion, as it is one of the best ab initio trainers available in the world. Many forces around the world use it for stage 1 as well as stage 2 training. With those and the hawks (again, the best in the world for advanced stage fighter training) in large numbers, training shouldn't be a problem anymore. So this is a very temporary measure.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Let's get it right- this is a purely temporary move. Thes issues will soon be resolved with the induction of the PC-7 MkII which has won the IAF companion for basic trainers and has been cleared by CCS, only waiting for pen to be put on paper. Also more AJTs are being inducted and with world class training facility at Bidar AFS being home of AJTs, any defeicenes will soon be picked up and corrected at this stage, after all this cut-down only applies to basic stage flying. Also the IJT is to be inducted at some point which will give training a boost. Not to mention the increase in simulator training IAF rookies now receive, as this decision applies only to air-time extra hours can be made up on the ground.


Not hugely worried, as many IAF officers have stated- the IAF is undergoing a MASSIVE transformation and is entering a "golden" age of expansion in quality and quantity. Time will silence all these ignorant critics.