IAF : Covering up Su-30 Loss?

[Riz]

If u watch their Tv channels coverage on YouTube, almost whole media representative were present on MI-17 crash site, whole day they reported 2 bodies recoverd from the MI-17 helicopter and bodies shifted to hospital... Suddenly after IAF officers press conference media changed the statement and started propaganda of recovering 6 bodies from wreckage...

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

su30 has to pilots not one. where is the 2nd one???

SU-30s went down.

3 Pilots died on Indian side and one captured by Pakistan.

 

[Mighty Lion]

Two Indian Airforce SU-30s went down on 27th Feb, 2019

Yawn.
Why not 20?

Fact is it has been nearly an year since the incident and PAF has absolutely and totally failed in producing in even a teeny tiny shred of evidence to support it's Su-30 claim. Entirely Nil.

If u watch their Tv channels coverage on YouTube, almost whole media representative were present on MI-17 crash site, whole day they reported 2 bodies recoverd from the MI-17 helicopter and bodies shifted to hospital... Suddenly after IAF officers press conference media changed the statement and started propaganda of recovering 6 bodies from wreckage...

Nope.
News channels started reporting from 11:25 AM the total no of deceased

 

[Novice09]

The Six Victims belonging to Indian Air Force, who lost their lives during Indo-Pak air combat on 27th February 2019. Unlike WC Abhinandan, they never get the chance to come infront of media and tell their real account. As per Indian sources, these six lost their life when India's Spyder SAM system shot their own Mi-17 helicopter down out of panic in a friendly fire incident.

Interestingly, out of these six victims, only Sqn Ldrs Siddharth Vashisht & Ninad Mandavgane (shown in above two larger Pic sections) will receive Vayu Sena Medal on this Republic Day of India. Rest four will receive mention in dispatches only; a biased behavior indeed.

Now it raises certain doubts,

1: Why TWO Squadron Leaders were flying a helicopter? In general two Sq Ldrs are not assigned at the same time for flying a helicopter.

2: Why only Sq Ldrs are receiving Gallantry awards, not rest? Why they both are special? Is it sign of professional biasness? Or something else?

3: Why Six personal were onboard a helicopter which was on search & rescue duty? A duty which in general is undertaken by four men?

4: Are the pilots of downed Su-30 MKI among them? After all the easiest way to coverup loss of life is to include them in helicopter losses.



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But as per my info (obviously from propaganda)... one MKI pilot... who was in hospital... DUSRA BANDA... dead or alive... was in PAKISTAN...

While second MKI pilot was lucky enough to reach INDIA...

NOW you are contradicting your own DG-ISPR... and yes, your PM TOO...

 

[Talon]

When the gallantry award is for piloting then yes as all pilots are officers

Well supposedly they failed to turn on IFF and failed to prove themselves as friendly so if they are being awarded just for flying the heli and losing it then kudos to the criteria of IAF...Well Abhi was also awarded for getting shot down and slapped by civilians so nothing strange I guess.

But as per my info (obviously from propaganda)... one MKI pilot... who was in hospital... DUSRA BANDA... dead or alive... was in PAKISTAN...

While second MKI pilot was lucky enough to reach INDIA...

NOW you are contradicting your own DG-ISPR... and yes, your PM TOO...

Same way the whole F16 wreckage fell in Pakistan while one AMRAAM debris fell in Delhi? (of course taken out from butt of an su30 in reality)

Multiple pilots tweet was later explained by the DG ISPR.How do you explain F16 story?

 

[Mighty Lion]

Well supposedly they failed to turn on IFF and failed to prove themselves as friendly so if they are being awarded just for flying the heli and losing it then kudos to the criteria of IAF...Well Abhi was also awarded for getting shot down and slapped by civilians so nothing strange I guess.


Same way the whole F16 wreckage fell in Pakistan while one AMRAAM debris fell in Delhi?

Multiple pilots tweet was later explained by the DG ISPR.How do you explain F16 story?

Actually they were not told to turn on IFF as IAF was still following peacetime procedures

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Actually they were not told to turn on IFF as IAF was still following peacetime procedures

A day after expected (pre warned) Pakistani retaliation?

 

[Novice09]

Yawn.
Why not 20?

Fact is it has been nearly an year since the incident and PAF has absolutely and totally failed in producing in even a teeny tiny shred of evidence to support it's Su-30 claim. Entirely Nil.


Nope.
News channels started reporting from 11:25 AM the total no of deceased

IAF: F-16 used
DG: No
PDF: No

IAF: AMRAAM USED
DG: NO
PDF: NO

IAF: AMRAAM used... here is the PROOF...
DG: No
PDF: Vietnamese AMRAAM
ENTIRE PAKISTAN: JF-17, JF-17, JF-17n...

Now, my question is when no F-16 was used... No AMRAAM was fired... how is it possible to shoot down a MKI... by using AMRAAM...

someone is TRYING TO LIE... BADLY... and facts are contradicting their THEORIES...

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Others were not piloting the aircraft.
They were just in the cabin except the Flt Engr. All of them were enlisted men and not even Officers too let alone pilots.

question is, what ever they doing and going during a military conflict to begin with?

 

[Windjammer]

IAF decisively proved that they didn't lose any SU-30s by flying the so-called Balakot formation.
Because the IAF had only Two SU-30s in its inventory which it was able to field for the audience.
This action by the IAF alone proves how desperate it is to cover up it's loss.

 

[Talon]

Actually they were not told to turn on IFF as IAF was still following peacetime procedures

Peace time? Are you kidding me? Try to come up with a better excuse.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

If u watch their Tv channels coverage on YouTube, almost whole media representative were present on MI-17 crash site, whole day they reported 2 bodies recoverd from the MI-17 helicopter and bodies shifted to hospital... Suddenly after IAF officers press conference media changed the statement and started propaganda of recovering 6 bodies from wreckage...

because it was a Su30 wreckage watch the video i shared in page #1

 

[Talon]

IAF: F-16 used
DG: No
PDF: No

IAF: AMRAAM USED
DG: NO
PDF: NO

IAF: AMRAAM used... here is the PROOF...
DG: No
PDF: Vietnamese AMRAAM
ENTIRE PAKISTAN: JF-17, JF-17, JF-17n...

Now, my question is when no F-16 was used... No AMRAAM was fired... how is it possible to shoot down a MKI... by using AMRAAM...

someone is TRYING TO LIE... BADLY... and facts are contradicting their THEORIES...

Are you ignoring my previous reply to your comment on purpose? Looks like you got no answer.

Secondly,what DG meant was no F16 took part in bombing.

Also you didn't mention the stance of the actual party i.e PAF.Their statement is what's most legit.

 

[Novice09]

Well supposedly they failed to turn on IFF and failed to prove themselves as friendly so if they are being awarded just for flying the heli and losing it then kudos to the criteria of IAF...Well Abhi was also awarded for getting shot down and slapped by civilians so nothing strange I guess.


Same way the whole F16 wreckage fell in Pakistan while one AMRAAM debris fell in Delhi? (of course taken out from butt of an su30 in reality)

Multiple pilots tweet was later explained by the DG ISPR.How do you explain F16 story?

You would be shocked to know that I don't believe in downing of F 16 AND MKI... as there are no proof for them...

As per your post... if target is missed by a missile... it EVAPORATES IN AIR...

BRAVO... DG-ISPR was very successful in PAKISTAN...

 

[Umair Nawaz]

IAF decisively proved that they didn't lose any SU-30s by flying the so-called Balakot formation.
Because the IAF had only Two SU-30s in its inventory which it was able to field for the audience.
This action by the IAF alone proves how desperate it is to cover up it's loss.

yeah but PAF also need to present a definite proof too which can be shared with international audience.