IAEA, Hypocrisy and Israeli Nukes.

[T-Rex]

Continue to run like a coward but I exposed the absurdity of your racist and anti-Semite views. All you lies, deceits and slanders will not change that. Here again the gist of the debate that you are too afraid to challenge:


T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued:

Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East. The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt. To its Arab neighbors, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements.

The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action.

Where Russia and America sought a balance of power; Israel appears committed to maintaining a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice.

It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco.

This is the reply the troll is cowardly running away from in the last 9 pages (!):

There is not a single word of truth in the above post:

"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

As I said what a nazi like you thinks or says is irrelevant, they don't count and that's why the other day one of your buddies urged you to end your pariah status.

 

[nirreich]

As I said what a nazi like thinks or says is irrelevant, they don't count and that's why the other day one of your buddies urged you to end your pariah status.

I presented legitimate arguments that you cannot answer. Your anti-Semite fantasies are falling apart, and cursing will not cover your pathetic situation.

Again, here is the arguments that you are so terrified to confront:

T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:



"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

 

[T-Rex]

I presented legitimate arguments that you cannot answer. Your anti-Semite fantasies are falling apart, and cursing will not cover your pathetic situation.

Again, here is the arguments that you are so terrified to confront:

T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:



"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

No, you don't present legitimate argument, you present lies disguised as legitimate arguments. You're a typical zionist liar and hypo0crite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYeJ7uIPEbE

 

[nirreich]

No, you don't present legitimate argument, you present lies disguised as legitimate arguments. You're a typical zionist liar and hypo0crite.

Nuclear Threat is from Israel NOT Iran. - YouTube

Here is the truth again in your anti-Semitic and cowardly face!


T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:



"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

This is the ugly truth, but you are too anti-Semite to admit it. That is why you and your kind in the Muslim Civilisation are at the bottom of human development (by your own expert's admission).





---------- Post added at 01:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:16 PM ----------

No, you don't present legitimate argument, you present lies disguised as legitimate arguments. You're a typical zionist liar and hypo0crite.

Nuclear Threat is from Israel NOT Iran. - YouTube

Here is the truth again in your anti-Semitic and cowardly face!


T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:



"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

 

[T-Rex]

Here is the truth again in your anti-Semitic and cowardly face!


T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:



"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

This is the ugly truth, but you are too anti-Semite to admit it. That is why you and your kind in the Muslim Civilisation are at the bottom of human development (by your own expert's admission).





---------- Post added at 01:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:16 PM ----------



Here is the truth again in your anti-Semitic and cowardly face!


T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:



"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

Listen you zionist nazi, even the Saudis have decided to go for nukes and israeli nuke is the reason.

 

[nirreich]

Listen you zionist nazi, even the Saudis have decided to go for nukes and israeli nuke is the reason.

You are pissing in your pants with horror from the simple truth, and you cannot stop the truth from exposed with your lies and racism. Here is the truth again in your anti-Semitic and cowardly face!

T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:


"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

This is the ugly truth, but you are too anti-Semite to admit it. That is why you and your kind in the Muslim Civilisation are at the bottom of human development (by your own expert's admission).

 

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This topic should be renamed to "T-Rex nirreich chatroom".

 

[nirreich]

This topic should be renamed to "T-Rex nirreich chatroom".

This topic should be closed.

 

[T-Rex]

This topic should be closed.

You're trying your best but it's not working, so you may think of coming up with more of your lies. The US knows very well the implication of allowing israel to have nukes. The US deliberately follows this policy to beat the drums of war in the ME and behind the US government is the dirty hand of the US arms industry.

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War drums are beating for Iran. But who's playing them?

Just like the taxpayers of medieval Italian cities, we're having our money siphoned off to pay for a a greedy military machine


Terry Jones
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 6 December 2011 16.06 GMT


In the 14th century there were two pandemics. One was the Black Death, the other was the commercialisation of warfare. Mercenaries had always existed, but under Edward III they became the mainstay of the English army for the first 20 years of what became the Hundred Years war. Then, when Edward signed the treaty of Brétigny in 1360 and told his soldiers to stop fighting and go home, many of them didn't have any homes to go to. They were used to fighting, and that's how they made their money. So they simply formed themselves into freelance armies, aptly called "free companies", that proceeded around France pillaging, killing and raping.

One of these armies was called the Great Company. It totalled, according to one estimate, 16,000 soldiers, larger than any existing national army. Eventually it descended on the pope, in Avignon, and held him to ransom. The pope made the mistake of paying off the mercenaries with huge amounts of cash, which only encouraged them to carry on marauding. He also suggested that they move on into Italy, where his arch-enemies, the Visconti, ran Milan. This they did, under the banner of the Marquis of Monferrato, again subsidised by the pope.

The nightmare had begun. Huge armies of brigands rampaging through Europe was a disaster second only to the plague. It seemed as if the genie had been let out of the bottle and there was no way of putting him back in. Warfare had suddenly turned into a profitable business; the Italian city states became impoverished as taxpayers' money was used to buy off the free companies. And since those who made money out of the business of war naturally wished to go on making money out of it, warfare had no foreseeable end.

Wind forward 650 years or so. The US, under George W Bush, decided to privatise the invasion of Iraq by employing private "contractors" like the Blackwater company, now renamed Xe Services. In 2003 Blackwater won a $27m no-bid contract for guarding Paul Bremer, then head of the Coalition Provisional Authority. For protecting officials in conflict zones since 2004, the company has received more than $320m. And this year the Obama government contracted to pay Xe Services a quarter of a billion dollars for security work in Afghanistan. This is just one of many companies making its profits out of warfare.

In 2000 the Project for the New American Century published a report, Rebuilding America's Defenses, whose declared aim was to up the spending on defence from 3% to 3.5% or 3.8% of American gross domestic product. In fact it is now running at 4.7% of GDP. In the UK we spend about $57bn a year on defence, or 2.5% of GDP.

Just like the taxpayers of medieval Italian city-states, we are having our money siphoned off into the business of war. Any responsible company needs to make profits for its shareholders. In the 14th century the shareholders in the free companies were the soldiers themselves. If the company wasn't being employed by someone to make war on someone else, the shareholders had to forgo their dividends. So they looked around to create markets for themselves.

Sir John Hawkwood's White Company would offer its services to the pope or to the city of Florence. If either turned his offer down, Hawkwood would simply make an offer to their enemies. As Francis Stonor Saunders writes in her wonderful book, Hawkwood – Diabolical Englishman: "The value of the companies was the purely negative one of maintaining the balance of military power between the cities." Just like the cold war.

Two decades ago I picked up an in-house magazine for the arms industry. Its editorial was headed "Thank God For Saddam". It explained that, since the collapse of communism and end of the cold war, the order books of the arms industry had been empty. But now there was a new enemy, the industry could look forward to a bonanza. The invasion of Iraq was built around a lie: Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction, but the defence industry needed an enemy, and the politicians duly supplied one.

And now the same war drums, encouraged by the storming of the British embassy last week, are beating for an attack on Iran. Seymour Hersh writes in the New Yorker: "All of the low enriched uranium now known to be produced inside Iran is accounted for." The recent IAEA report which provoked such outcry against Iran's nuclear ambitions, he continues, contains nothing that proves that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

In the 14th century it was the church that lived in symbiosis with the military. Nowadays it is the politicians. The US government spent a staggering $687bn on "defence" in 2010. Think what could be done with that money if it were put into hospitals, schools or to pay off foreclosed mortgages.

The retiring US president, Dwight D Eisenhower, famously took the opportunity of his farewell to the nation address in 1961 to warn his fellow countrymen of the danger in allowing too close a relationship between politicians and the defence industry.

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience," he said. "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." It exists. The genie is out of the bottle again.

 

[nirreich]

You're trying your best but it's not working, so you may think of coming up with more of your lies. The US knows very well the implication of allowing israel to have nukes. The US deliberately follows this policy to beat the drums of war in the ME and behind the US government is the dirty hand of the US arms industry.

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War drums are beating for Iran. But who's playing them?

Just like the taxpayers of medieval Italian cities, we're having our money siphoned off to pay for a a greedy military machine


Terry Jones
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 6 December 2011 16.06 GMT


In the 14th century there were two pandemics. One was the Black Death, the other was the commercialisation of warfare. Mercenaries had always existed, but under Edward III they became the mainstay of the English army for the first 20 years of what became the Hundred Years war. Then, when Edward signed the treaty of Brétigny in 1360 and told his soldiers to stop fighting and go home, many of them didn't have any homes to go to. They were used to fighting, and that's how they made their money. So they simply formed themselves into freelance armies, aptly called "free companies", that proceeded around France pillaging, killing and raping.

One of these armies was called the Great Company. It totalled, according to one estimate, 16,000 soldiers, larger than any existing national army. Eventually it descended on the pope, in Avignon, and held him to ransom. The pope made the mistake of paying off the mercenaries with huge amounts of cash, which only encouraged them to carry on marauding. He also suggested that they move on into Italy, where his arch-enemies, the Visconti, ran Milan. This they did, under the banner of the Marquis of Monferrato, again subsidised by the pope.

The nightmare had begun. Huge armies of brigands rampaging through Europe was a disaster second only to the plague. It seemed as if the genie had been let out of the bottle and there was no way of putting him back in. Warfare had suddenly turned into a profitable business; the Italian city states became impoverished as taxpayers' money was used to buy off the free companies. And since those who made money out of the business of war naturally wished to go on making money out of it, warfare had no foreseeable end.

Wind forward 650 years or so. The US, under George W Bush, decided to privatise the invasion of Iraq by employing private "contractors" like the Blackwater company, now renamed Xe Services. In 2003 Blackwater won a $27m no-bid contract for guarding Paul Bremer, then head of the Coalition Provisional Authority. For protecting officials in conflict zones since 2004, the company has received more than $320m. And this year the Obama government contracted to pay Xe Services a quarter of a billion dollars for security work in Afghanistan. This is just one of many companies making its profits out of warfare.

In 2000 the Project for the New American Century published a report, Rebuilding America's Defenses, whose declared aim was to up the spending on defence from 3% to 3.5% or 3.8% of American gross domestic product. In fact it is now running at 4.7% of GDP. In the UK we spend about $57bn a year on defence, or 2.5% of GDP.

Just like the taxpayers of medieval Italian city-states, we are having our money siphoned off into the business of war. Any responsible company needs to make profits for its shareholders. In the 14th century the shareholders in the free companies were the soldiers themselves. If the company wasn't being employed by someone to make war on someone else, the shareholders had to forgo their dividends. So they looked around to create markets for themselves.

Sir John Hawkwood's White Company would offer its services to the pope or to the city of Florence. If either turned his offer down, Hawkwood would simply make an offer to their enemies. As Francis Stonor Saunders writes in her wonderful book, Hawkwood – Diabolical Englishman: "The value of the companies was the purely negative one of maintaining the balance of military power between the cities." Just like the cold war.

Two decades ago I picked up an in-house magazine for the arms industry. Its editorial was headed "Thank God For Saddam". It explained that, since the collapse of communism and end of the cold war, the order books of the arms industry had been empty. But now there was a new enemy, the industry could look forward to a bonanza. The invasion of Iraq was built around a lie: Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction, but the defence industry needed an enemy, and the politicians duly supplied one.

And now the same war drums, encouraged by the storming of the British embassy last week, are beating for an attack on Iran. Seymour Hersh writes in the New Yorker: "All of the low enriched uranium now known to be produced inside Iran is accounted for." The recent IAEA report which provoked such outcry against Iran's nuclear ambitions, he continues, contains nothing that proves that Iran is developing nuclear weapons.

In the 14th century it was the church that lived in symbiosis with the military. Nowadays it is the politicians. The US government spent a staggering $687bn on "defence" in 2010. Think what could be done with that money if it were put into hospitals, schools or to pay off foreclosed mortgages.

The retiring US president, Dwight D Eisenhower, famously took the opportunity of his farewell to the nation address in 1961 to warn his fellow countrymen of the danger in allowing too close a relationship between politicians and the defence industry.

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience," he said. "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." It exists. The genie is out of the bottle again.

You are pissing in your pants with horror from the simple truth, and you cannot stop the truth from exposed with your lies and racism. Here is the truth again in your anti-Semitic and cowardly face!

T-Rex, The pathetic anti-Semite troll argued (in bold) and I replied:


"Israel’s overall behavior raises very legitimate concern and fear throughout the Middle East" - As exposed in Wikileaks, The main fears throughout the ME is about Iran's hegemonic ambitions and not about Israel. Iran strives to overthrow all the moderate Arab regimes in the ME - KSA, UAE, Egypt, Jordan. Iran already began to undermine the regimes in Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain.

"The theocratic foundation of Israel calls for the Jews to inhabit all of the Land of Israel, which extends into Syria, Jordan, Iraq and Saudi Arabia and parts of Egypt" - complete nonsense. Israel is hardy a theocratic state but a liberal democracy. If Israel wants to extend into its neighbours how come that since the 1970's Israel withdrew from territories that it already controlled and are twice as large than its current territory? Israel withdrew from Sinai, Gaza, South Lebanon, and agreed for a self government for the Palestinians in the West Bank. Israel was also ready to withdraw from the Golan Hights as part of a peace agreement with Syria.

"To its Arab neighbours, Israel is seen as an existential threat that has demonstrated its aggressiveness by launching the 1967 War, invading Lebanon and constantly annexing Palestinian lands for Jewish settlements" - Israel's neighbours so "afraid" from Israel that they tried to eliminate it in the 1948 War. The 1967 War was a direct result of an Arab threat for a "second round" to destroy Israel. So who should feel that it is under existential threat??? For your information, Israel completely withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and still Hizbuallha continue to threat Israel with the support of Syria and Iran, but of course Israel is the existential threat and not vice versa.

Regarding the settlements, Israel evacuated all its military and settlements from Gaza and in return the Palestinians are firing rockets on civilian population living in undisputed Israeli territory. Israel was ready to evacuate most of the settlements in 2000 and 2008, but the Palestinians refused in return to accept Israel as the Jewish-nation state. So, even an anti-Semite like you knows that the settlements are hardly the main problem.

"The ever-increasing size of Israel’s military and nuclear arsenal can certainly be perceived as far beyond that necessary to ensure its survival. The addition of nuclear-capable submarines and long-range missiles suggests preparations for aggressive action" - these are just fantasies, you do not have any credible information about Israel's non-conventional capabilities. Moreover, who are you to determine what is "necessary to ensure its survival"? Israel is surrounded by an ocean of Muslim hatred, no one in the ME is ready to accept it as a Jewish-nation state and Israel is under constant terror attacks from Hamas and Hizbuallha which are supported by Iran and Syria and more importantly - by most of the public opinion in Islamic countries. Moreover, Iran develops nuclear weapons while threatening to eliminate Israel. Just name another country which is in a more serious existential threat than Israel.

"Israel appears committed to maintain a disproportionate imbalance of power. By building stronger relations with India, the Israelis are place a number of Muslim states between a nuclear vice" - complete nonsense. Why nuclear Russia and nuclear US can have military cooperation with India, but Israel is not allowed to cooperate with India? And you right about keeping imbalance with the Arab countries which are poised to destroy Israel - this is the only thing that prevents another war against Israel tomorrow morning.

"It’s essential to look at the developing strategic situation from a Muslim perspective. And from that perspective the Middle East is becoming a very dangerous place, with Muslim states in the sights of Israeli and Indian nuclear weapons and American forces from Pakistan to Morocco" - the ME is indeed a very dangerous region but only because of the irresponsible behaviour of the Muslim countries in this region. They are failed states which their contribution to human kind is around zero: almost a billion Muslims between Morocco and Pakistan are just a burden on the international community with almost nothing constructive to give to the welfare of mankind. Israel with its seven million people contributed much more than a billion Muslims. Moreover, almost all these Muslim countries are more occupied with blaming everyone but themselves in their miserable situation. They never look what is fundamental wrong with their societies and try to change it. All they produce is frustration and hate against Israel and the West which eventually turns into terrorism and developing WMD.

This is the ugly truth, but you are too anti-Semite to admit it. That is why you and your kind in the Muslim Civilisation are at the bottom of human development (by your own expert's admission).

 

[makelovenotwar]

If you were Israel and surrounded by backward counties would you give up your nukes?!

 

[makelovenotwar]

I should add to balance that comment Israel's ultra right-wing domestic and foreign policy sucks.

 

[nirreich]

If you were Israel and surrounded by backward counties would you give up your nukes?!

The desired goal of Israel is similar to other Western countries: a world free of nuclear weapons. However, similar to the delays of the US, Britain and France in achieving this goal on justifiable security reasons, the threats to Israel's security are much more serious and more urgent. Israel stated many times in the past that it is ready to accept a NWFZ in ME when it will have stable peace agreements and normalisation with all the countries in the region, including Iran, and they accept the legitimacy of its existence.

Nowadays, the biggest danger to current nuclear non-proliferation efforts and to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is Iran's nuclear programme and Iran's intentions to develop nuclear weapons. Iran will definitely use nuclear capability to undermine the stability in ME and support radical regimes. Iran's nuclear ambitions will likely lead to a nuclear ME with KSA and Egypt developing nukes in order to defend themselves against Iran's ambitions. A nuclear ME is a danger to global stability in view of the reactionary trends and the majority of failed countries in this region .

Except Iran, other nuclear countries should be the focus of global attention instead of Israel: Pakistan and North Korea assisted radical regimes which sponsor terrorism to develop nuclear weapons. The nuclear policies of Pakistan and North Korea and the instability they create in their region are much more dangerous to the world than Israel which adopted a responsible nuclear policy, similar to Britain and France. Israel is not a threat to any country in the ME or in the international community, so its nuclear issue is not more urgent than dismantling Britain's nuclear weapons.

Israel definitely should not be treated equally to Iran which violated its international commitments and secretly developed nuclear programme for 20 years by using international nuclear assistance it received as a result of its membership in the NPT (which Israel did not join). Moreover, unlike Israel, Iran publicly threatens to eliminate a legitimate country Israel which was recognised by the UN and the international community. Iran's terrorist behaviour and deceits disqualify it from any international legitimacy to develop nuclear weapons, even if it has security concerns.

 

[T-Rex]

The desired goal of Israel is similar to other Western countries: a world free of nuclear weapons. However, similar to the delays of the US, Britain and France in achieving this goal on justifiable security reasons, the threats to Israel's security are much more serious and more urgent. Israel stated many times in the past that it is ready to accept a NWFZ in ME when it will have stable peace agreements and normalisation with all the countries in the region, including Iran, and they accept the legitimacy of its existence.

Nowadays, the biggest danger to current nuclear non-proliferation efforts and to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is Iran's nuclear programme and Iran's intentions to develop nuclear weapons. Iran will definitely use nuclear capability to undermine the stability in ME and support radical regimes. Iran's nuclear ambitions will likely lead to a nuclear ME with KSA and Egypt developing nukes in order to defend themselves against Iran's ambitions. A nuclear ME is a danger to global stability in view of the reactionary trends and the majority of failed countries in this region .

Except Iran, other nuclear countries should be the focus of global attention instead of Israel: Pakistan and North Korea assisted radical regimes which sponsor terrorism to develop nuclear weapons. The nuclear policies of Pakistan and North Korea and the instability they create in their region are much more dangerous to the world than Israel which adopted a responsible nuclear policy, similar to Britain and France. Israel is not a threat to any country in the ME or in the international community, so its nuclear issue is not more urgent than dismantling Britain's nuclear weapons.

Israel definitely should not be treated equally to Iran which violated its international commitments and secretly developed nuclear programme for 20 years by using international nuclear assistance it received as a result of its membership in the NPT (which Israel did not join). Moreover, unlike Israel, Iran publicly threatens to eliminate a legitimate country Israel which was recognised by the UN and the international community. Iran's terrorist behaviour and deceits disqualify it from any international legitimacy to develop nuclear weapons, even if it has security concerns.

NPT is nothing but a tool to continue the nuclear hegemony of the few, so I don't give a sh!t to who violates this ******* treaty. What matters is who is violating peace and that culprit is certainly israel with its stock of WMDs when none have it in the ME.

 

[nirreich]

NPT is nothing but a tool to continue the nuclear hegemony of the few, so I don't give a sh!t to who violates this ******* treaty. What matters is who is violating peace and that culprit is certainly israel with its stock of WMDs when none have it in the ME.

Iran made commitments under the NPT and received extensive nuclear assistance through IAEA and bilaterally (for example, the nclear reactor in Busher which was designed and built by Germany and Russia). Israel never joined the NPT, so its nuclear status is equivalent to India and not to Iran. There is no international justification to pressure Israel more than India or Pakistan or North Korea - none of them are NPT members (unlike Iran).

You never gave any rationale and good explanation why Israel is the one which "violate the peace". I dismissed all your previous nonsense about the so-called "danger" of Israel and showed that the real threat is Iran and it should be dealt by the international community without any connection to Israel.

As usual you ignore facts, reality, and the truth and all you can do is scream, slander and expose how little you know and understand about this issue.

P.S: Writing in bold letters and bigger fonts will not make your nonsense somehow more accurate than before.