'I had the honour of flying your brave son'

[nair]

I thought religious discussion is banned in PDF

 

[KingMamba]

So, if someone dies peacefully in his/her sleep he/she isn't a Shahid.

And yes, Punjabi, Sindhi and Urdu have borrowed plenty of words from the so-called Indian languages, some with overtly Hindu symbologies as well. Satyanash, Daneshwar, etc to name a few. Many of the days of the Week are also borrowed. So, when are you reverting them to pure Arabic words?

Never heard of them. I do not think anyone has ever used this in Pakistan lol. I am sure if any Hindu terms were borrowed Zia would have corrected it LOL.

I thought religious discussion is banned in PDF

Levina brought it up.

 

[Indischer]

No it is noblest to die in the cause of God which includes protecting the nation, anyway I didn't want to spend as much time on this as I have.

The dollar lol. That is irrelevant I meant from religion like you guys are taking from ours.

Who says we took the word for it's strict religious meaning? The fact that we aren't using it in the same context as you must have been the biggest clue.

 

[janon]

No it is noblest to die in the cause of God which includes protecting the nation, anyway I didn't want to spend as much time on this as I have.

The dollar lol. That is irrelevant I meant from religion like you guys are taking from ours.

If you are talking about "shahid", we haven't borrowed anything religious. Only the word. These two are shahids not for dying for any religion, but for dying for the nation. Hinduism or other Indian religions have not borrowed the concept of martyrdom, and won't. It just doesn't make sense from hinduism's POV.

Levina brought it up.

No, desert fighter did, when he objected to the use of what he said is an islamic word.

 

[KingMamba]

Who says we took the word for it's strict religious meaning? The fact that we aren't using it in the same context as you must have been the biggest clue.

If you are talking about "shahid", we haven't borrowed anything religious. Only the word. These two are not shahids for dying for any religion, but for the nation. Hinduism or other India religions have not borrowed the concept of martyrdom, and won't. It just doesn' make sense from hinduism's POV.

The word itself is religious lol like I mentioned earlier without the religious connotation it doesn't make sense. We are all witness' to this thread but that would not make us shaheeds although the literal translation is the same. Anyway let us drop it.

Actually Hinduism has a concept of righteous death I just cannot find the term for it right now lol some sanskrit word.

 

[nair]

Never heard of them. I do not think anyone has ever used this in Pakistan lol. I am sure if any Hindu terms were borrowed Zia would have corrected it LOL.



Levina brought it up.

No it was desert fighter who did it

 

[KingMamba]

No it was desert fighter who did it

Nah.

 

[Indischer]

Never heard of them. I do not think anyone has ever used this in Pakistan lol. I am sure if any Hindu terms were borrowed Zia would have corrected it LOL.

You need to spend more time in Pakistan mate.

Daneshwar coming up at 1:03 in this video.

And Zia didn't even change Mangal, Budh and Sanichar in Urdu vocabulary. Probably because he didn't know they had mushrik origins.

 

[Alpha1]

Levina brought it up.

No, she Didn't
@levina used the term Shaheed for Indian soldiers
a Pakistani objected to it and started the discussion

 

[Indischer]

The word itself is religious lol like I mentioned earlier without the religious connotation it doesn't make sense. We are all witness' to this thread but that would not make us shaheeds although the literal translation is the same. Anyway let us drop it.

Actually Hinduism has a concept of righteous death I just cannot find the term for it right now lol some sanskrit word.

I already posted it here mate. It's called Veergati(literally, the end-time of a Brave warrior).

 

[KingMamba]

You need to spend more time in Pakistan mate.

Daneshwar coming up at 1:03 in this video.

And Zia didn't even change Mangal, Budh and Sanichar in Urdu vocabulary. Probably because he didn't know they had mushrik origins.

I guess you are right.

No, she Didn't
@levina used the term Shaheed for Indian soldiers
a Pakistani objected to it and started the discussion

Considering you and the Pakistani in question do not get along I am taking your words with a pinch of salt.

 

[janon]

...
Actually Hinduism has a concept of righteous death I just cannot find the term for it right now lol some sanskrit word.

Yes, but righteous death is not for defending any religion. In the Gita, Arjuna is urged to fight and win, or die a righteous death in war, because he is a Kshatriya and so it is his duty to do so. There is no concept of defending the faith, because these are not faith based anyway, and the concept of "believer" and "unbeliever" was never present.

 

[Alpha1]

Considering you and the Pakistani in question do not get along I am taking your words with a pinch of salt.

ofcource I can't get along with self-acclaimed ''Arseholes'' anyways browse a few pages back, youll know the truth

 

[janon]

Considering you and the Pakistani in question do not get along I am taking your words with a pinch of salt.

How would you know which Pakistani he was referring to, unless you already know that that Pakistani derailed the thread?

 

[KingMamba]

Yes, but righteous death is not for defending any religion. In the Gita, Arjuna is urged to fight and win, or die a righteous death in war, because he is a Kshatriya and so it is his duty to do so. There is no concept of defending the faith, because these are not faith based anyway, and the concept of "believer" and "unbeliever" was never present.

It is also a Muslims duty to fight when necessary it is not about "defending the faith" always it is also duty to defend the country you live in.

How would you know which Pakistani he was referring to, unless you already know that that Pakistani derailed the thread?

I don't follow.