I am a Muslim. Nobody forced me to convert”

[Sky lord]

Blasphemy is one thing while leaving Islam is quiet another and there is NO such Law in Pakistan which gives punishment to any murtid (the one who leaves Islam). But there is Blasphemy law as per constitution and you have to obey the law simple as that. Mob lynching or killing is the same in India so do not try to be over-smart

How is it the same? There is no law in India that allows lynchings under any circumstances whatsoever.

There is no law in Pakistan against apostasy but surprisingly no one does it ....why?

There are deviants who rape, murder, molest little children, there was a family that did cannibalism, steal, fraud, lynch, not pay taxes, throw acid, blow up innocent people in mosques and bus stands but NEVER EVER apostasy...not formally....why not?

 

[Spring Onion]

How is it the same? There is no law in India that allows lynchings under any circumstances whatsoever.

There no such law in Pakistan either that allows lynching.

There is no law in Pakistan against apostasy but surprisingly no one does it ....why?

There are deviants who rape, murder, molest little children, there was a family that did cannibalism, steal, fraud, lynch, not pay taxes, throw acid, blow up innocent people in mosques and bus stands but NEVER EVER apostasy...not formally....why not?

Because even the weakest Muslim faithwise in Pakistan does not want to become a kafir and it is for 99.9% Muslims here in Pakistan that is the reality whether you like it or not. Let me tell you an interesting narrative. Here in my city or to say around us there is this belief ( do not know the origin of the belief) that if you do not offer Friday prayers for certain period you are out of circle of Islam. Now the amusing thing is that those who do not offer prayers all month do come for Jumma or friday prayer once in a month. Nobody forces them but that is their inner concisnousness to remain Muslim which force them to offer Friday prayers at least once a month. NOW if they do not offer even once a month nobody is going to kill them or accuse them of apostasy. As far the other things you mentioned like rape, drinking etc etc well these are CRIMES Punishable by law physically on ground even death penalty for a murder so if Muslims of Pakistan have any fear of being killed they would not have committed these crimes either publicly. So your question has the answer itself.

 

[prashantazazel]

Conversions won't be a problem when muslim guys stop attacking apostates or interfaith couples.
Currently, the Sanghis are fighting a righteous battle.

 

[MagicMarker]

So a murder means state us involved?

Reminds me about the rise of rapist murdering cow vigilantes in India...

Blasphemy is "Hear Say".

NO COURT in the world considers "hear say" as "evidence". Only islamic courts in pakistan consider it "evidence".

SO its judicial murder clear and simple. At least by most civilized standards of the 21st century.

Irony, his siblings came out and provided proof that their mother and father are Punjabi Muslim's from Faisalabad... Along with solid proof like birth,death certificates , hajj visas (his mother went on hajj lol) and much more.

The same reports also says ,

"Faisal, as he is known in his current identity documents, was born to a Muslim father and a Jewish mother in Karachi in 1987. He was registered as a Muslim due to his father’s religion."

Makes you wonder why his siblings (it true) would be desperate to lie publicly. Maybe they were afraid of being killed by a Mob.

What about cows, why you kill people for eating beef ?

There is no law in India that supports killing people for eating beef.

Your ignorance and stupidity is your burden, not mine.

Blasphemy is one thing while leaving Islam is quiet another and there is NO such Law in Pakistan which gives punishment to any murtid (the one who leaves Islam). But there is Blasphemy law as per constitution and you have to obey the law simple as that. Mob lynching or killing is the same in India so do not try to be over-smart

Blasphemy is based on "hear say".

The accused is considered GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. ....... Its no different from a mob lynching, only this time its sanctioned by the constitution.

 

[fallstuff]

Blasphemy is "Hear Say".

NO COURT in the world considers "hear say" as "evidence". Only islamic courts in pakistan consider it "evidence".

SO its judicial murder clear and simple. At least by most civilized standards of the 21st century.





The same reports also says ,

"Faisal, as he is known in his current identity documents, was born to a Muslim father and a Jewish mother in Karachi in 1987. He was registered as a Muslim due to his father’s religion."

Makes you wonder why his siblings (it true) would be desperate to lie publicly. Maybe they were afraid of being killed by a Mob.



There is no law in India that supports killing people for eating beef.

Your ignorance and stupidity is your burden, not mine.



Blasphemy is based on "hear say".

The accused is considered GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. ....... Its no different from a mob lynching, only this time its sanctioned by the constitution.

Stupid Indian read the following,

State sanctioned Hindus with voter list from the Gujrat State offices slaughtered Muslim folks

Modi as CM of Gujrat said Hindus need to kill Muslim cause they need to vent.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repo...h-skin-custom&Path=MMIR/2011/04/23&ID=Ar01400

 

[MagicMarker]

Stupid Indian read the following,

State sanctioned Hindus with voter list from the Gujrat State offices slaughtered Muslim folks

Modi as CM of Gujrat said Hindus need to kill Muslim cause they need to vent.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repo...h-skin-custom&Path=MMIR/2011/04/23&ID=Ar01400

Every registered political party has access to the voters list you moron.

That is how elections and democracy operates.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Or, you know, don't do that.

If you're a father, and your child decides to make a willing choice, accept it. If the child changes their mind, than help her. If you cannot do that, you should never have had a child in the first place, because you're clearly an immature petty child yourself.

What you've said is not only cruel, but it defies all logic and humanity.

You may not be saying it outright, but you're making this into a sectarian issue.

I read that post and my flesh crept. Thank you for your comment, @That Guy; you beat me to it.

There is nothing wrong if somebody converts their religion on their own will. But in India Muslims want to convert Hindus to their religion & we had no issues for centuries. Same goes with Christians also.

But the double standard is when some Muslim converts to Hindu, all hell will break loose. The person who wants to convert or is converted is continuously harassed & threatened & even killed in many cases If a Muslim girl is seen with a Hindu boy, the boy is bullied & thrashed or even killed.

99% cases the Hindu girls have to convert to Islam after they marry a muslim. Why can't Muslims accept the girl with her religion without any conversion? If they cannot accept her as it is, they should not allure or entice Hindu girls. They should marry in their own community.

Islam is an intolerant religion & its people are the most insecure people. They will always avoid any debate on Islam where other religions will any time be open for any debate or discussion.

Until the day Muslim countries, clerics & religious leaders decide, allow & announce that any Muslim who wants to convert to other religion are free to do so, it will remain a intolerant religion & always in turmoil. Can any Islamic country or leaders have the guts to pass this law. You fear Islam will cease to exist that's why you can't.

Hindus don't have to do this, because people accept our religion because they experience true spirituality & God in Hindu religion. We don't have to force anybody. So we don't have to worry about any Hindu converting to other religion, because others are accepting ours.

Why this one sided affair, everybody should convert to Islam, but Muslims should not convert to other. Is the God not confident about it’s religion & its teachings. Only human can be selfish, not God. If God say my followers cannot convert to other & I am the only God, then he’s not God. God will never have to feel insecure & selfish. God should always win its followers by his miracles & powers not by such threatening & brainwashed teachings. This is the bitter truth

Hindus have woken up from the past mistakes of anybody coming & exploiting & taking our religion for granted. Due to all this one sided injustice, we are suffering today with violence & bloodshed. We have had one partition. This needs to stop, no Hindu should be allowed to convert to any religion especially Islam, until it also becomes a tolerant & liberal religion. And we should also force other religions especially Islam to convert to Hindus. If they can do it, we should also do it. It’s a Hindu majority nation. Muslims should be forced to convert like how minorities are forcibly converted in Islamic countries. These same Muslims have no voice in such countries, but when they are targeted from around the world where they are minority, every Muslim country target the other country. This bullying will die. The world has realized & slowly coming together to stop the self centered & self obsessed beliefs of Islam.

I am not insulting Islam here nor i have hatred for any religion, but until all religions are equally tolerant & similar in practices these disputes & differences will only increase. I am also human & I won't accept injustice done to my people on the name of religion. It has to be equal both sides. So if one community is selfish, we have the right to also be selfish & save our community. This is the root cause. You will silence the person when somebody says the real issues. You can only delete such messages, but the feelings in people's mind you won't be able to delete unless you change.

You don't have to go far to find evidence of this primitive denial, even a denial of the right of another to enquire into their religion, or to participate in such an enquiry.

Look up the thread 'Chabahar Checkmate' and see for yourself, and laugh if you will at the irony of the name adopted by the rigid fundamentalist who got so exercised by this topic.

 

[fallstuff]

Every registered political party has access to the voters list you moron.

That is how elections and democracy operates.

Stupid Indian, stop lying.

Muslims and Sikhs don't go around with voter list, ration cards, and school registration forms to slaughter hindus, this is a Hindu speacialty.

On 31 October, Congress Party officials provided assailants with voter lists, school registration forms, and ration lists.[46] The lists were used to find Sikh homes and business, an otherwise-impossible task because they were in unmarked, diverse neighbourhoods. During the night of 31 October, before the massacres began, assailants used the lists to mark Sikh houses with an "S".[46] Because most mob members were illiterate, Congress Party officials provided help reading the lists and leading the mobs to Sikh homes and businesses in other neighbourhoods.[43] With the lists, the mobs could pinpoint the location of Sikhs they otherwise would have missed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots

 

[Nalini]

What about cows, why you kill people for eating beef ?

Stupid Indian read the following,

State sanctioned Hindus with voter list from the Gujrat State offices slaughtered Muslim folks

Modi as CM of Gujrat said Hindus need to kill Muslim cause they need to vent.

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Repo...h-skin-custom&Path=MMIR/2011/04/23&ID=Ar01400

BD should first look in to its country before commenting on our internal matters.

This is the reason international bodies will have reservations to support BD on Rohingya crisis.

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Death-threats-for-Christian-and-Hindu-traders-37978.html

http://www.truthandgrace.com/muslimbangladesh.htm

https://www.christianheadlines.com/...beat-deprive-christians-of-work-11640491.html

I can show the real face of religious intolerance in BD, but I will be banned. So leave it. Fix your house first guys. If you are not perfect don't point a finger at others.

 

[MagicMarker]

Stupid Indian, stop lying.

Muslims and Sikhs don't go around with voter list, ration cards, and school registration forms to slaughter hindus, this is a Hindu speacialty.

Are you stupid ?

Those lists are available with all political parties. What they do with it is their business as determined by the Law.

In fact, bangladeshi muslims have used the same voters list to become illegal migrants and change the demographics of Assam and West Bengal with full support of the same CONgress party.

Now Rohingya muslims are doing the same thing in Kashmir while the Hindus pandits were ethnically cleansed using the same voters list.

Not that any of this is your business. You are a pakistani, so stick to talking about pakistan. ( or a Lungi as the case might be)

 

[manlion]

these clowns are getting more hilarious

 

[Nalini]

Muslim forcible conversion is not a Hindu, BJP or RSS thing. Defrauding, trapping & brainwashing other community girls in to relationship to convert is an agenda of Muslims across the world with any communtiry. BJP is the first Gov.t investigating & cracking down on this.

The previous Gov.t's just ignored people's appeals to address this issue because of vote bank politics. Love Jihad is a problem across India & the world. So don't try to paint this as any Hindu ploy to target Muslims. If it's so then you have to go & stop all these people below.

Marriages happen between all other communities, can be Hindu & Christian, Hindu & Sikh, Hindu & Buddhist, Hindu & Parsi, Christian & Sikh, Christian & Buddhist, etc.

But no where you will hear such voices. The reason is most cases the couple has no fights in their life over religion.

Most cases of Non Muslim girl married to a Muslim, the girl is abandoned in a very short time in many cases or you hear of in humane atrocities committed on the girl & dumped after use. Also several cases girls go missing without any knowledge for parents or friends.

 

[ashok321]

Kerala love jihad case: Hadiya to appear in SC today:

 

[PakSword]

Islam is an intolerant religion & its people are the most insecure people.

Post reported..

@Horus @The Eagle

Please take care of this..

 

[El Sidd]

You have proven it. You can't debate or handle truth. Sorry if you can't handle truth. That's all you can do, immediately suppress truth.

It is called Monday morning Irony !!

Enjoy it