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Hunza Lake in Attabad - potential disaster in the making

At the end you had called army if the civilian administration can not handle the situation than what are they sitting for ?

For every such situation you have to call army but for how long this will continue ?

Is Army equipped for such work more than the NDMA? or concern departments ?

This being one of the many arguments on military-rule sympathizers and apologists who wish to twist facts and historical evidence for susceptible and uniformed public, I mentioned this only some days ago. Hence I post it verbatim:-

Its just like when people sympathizing with the military oligarchy try to establish that the military's contribution in disaster management shows that it will go out of the way to help people for which my reply is always that the military is the only institution having the hardware resources to carry out these operations. For example, the NDMA and PDMAs are hopelessly under-resourced. They do not have the helicopters to airlift people out of a disaster zone. Nor do the paramilitary forces have the requisite aviation capabilities. Paramilitary forces across the world carry out relief efforts in the wake of a disaster, neither the Rangers nor the FC has the necessary resources at hand. The military does not have the hardware just because it is manned by far more honest people, but b/c other state bodies never have had the funding to acquire them. I'm not belittling the military's efforts but portraying a realistic image which most people fail to see (or rather try not to see) when portraying grandeur.

The army is not calling the shots nor managing the whole scenario.

Legal, administrative and in reality it is being carried out by NDMA, which is under-funded. As I mentioned, no other institution or force has the aviation to airlift people out of the place. Militaries are no messiahs in relief work, they carry out these duties worldwide. Even in the most developed and safety freak countries,civil works relating to bridge collapses and major natural disasters are handled by Corps of Engineers of the military (I can cite specific cases) and distribution of relief goods is supplemented by paramilitaries in all cases.

NDMA is working as the primary institution overseeing the work but it has to request for helicopters through the Defence Secretary. Similarly, construction of the spillway and adjoining civil works were carried out by FWO, NESPAK and NLC combined. NESPAK is a government owned autonomous construction company. NLC is under Planning Division and FWO is a company established by the authority of the Federation of Pakistan under the Ministry of Communications. All were government bodies. While we would like that NDMA be equipped with necessary hardware, it is unrealizable in our economic context and globally no disaster management/relief authority possesses the might to carve a spillway. It will obviously use a private entity or a government institution to perform civil work of such a case. While militaries across the world are equipped by hardware not relegated to other bodies, our case is downright hopeless where no state institution except the military has received the funds or the attention to carve itself. Militaries can be relied to perform duties as such for most likely they will be sitting down in peace times. Ours is not peace time but the role of the military is essential and a necessity for which the people of Pakistan pay for.
 
HUNZA: The landslide-spurred Lake in Ata Abad rose by two feet, increasing a mediocre overflow from the spillway; however, the situation is wholly under control, Geo News reported Sunday.

Talking to Geo News, National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA) Chairman Lt-Gen (retd) Nadeem Ahmed said if the situation went out of control, the people would be apprised summarily.

He added the flood wave would be only 15-meter high when it headed for the Gilgit; however, the Gilgit management was all geared up with the complete arrangements to tackle any emergency situation.

The people in Shashkat were hugely panicked owing to the heavy landsliding the last night. Also, the people in Gilgit are highly concerned ever since they heard the reports about the overflow from the Spillway.

Deputy Controller Examinations Mir Tazeem Akhtar said that the schedule for the intermediate examinations had not been changed despite the hovering danger of a flood in Gilgit, Hunza and Gojal, adding all the exams would be held as per schedule.
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oh God :cry:

May Allah have mercy upon our Pakistani peoples. We are being effected from all 4 corners :cry:

India, Afghanistan, Iran and now this disaster near China border......... we have peace nowhere :angry:
 
natural calamities are not confined to Pakistan alone.floods & drought are all cyclic..these are almighty gods way of controlling life...all life r constantly evolving..we would also have a fate..and in this universe we r irrevalent.. whatz the difference between a human life and a fly's ? cheerup !! we have lots of arguments to make and missiles to test before we all get undulated with floods..:D
 
isn't it true that too little was done for this disaster and whatever was done came too late.All these 6 months Govt. was sleeping?when actual landslide happened in early jan.This disaster will be known for govt.incompetency rather than the devastation it has caused.Or is it that Pak govt gives step motherly treatment to northern areas????
 
isn't it true that too little was done for this disaster and whatever was done came too late.All these 6 months Govt. was sleeping?when actual landslide happened in early jan.This disaster will be known for govt.incompetency rather than the devastation it has caused.Or is it that Pak govt gives step motherly treatment to northern areas????

Aaaahh the typical mindset and query.

Do you guys have any idea how large passage has been blocked and how huge was the blockage ???
 
oh God :cry:

May Allah have mercy upon our Pakistani peoples. We are being effected from all 4 corners :cry:

India, Afghanistan, Iran and now this disaster near China border......... we have peace nowhere :angry:

Allah helps those who help themselves! :coffee: subko Allah paay chor doo specially when it all goes wrong! when you elect CORRUPT INEPT leaders then you seriously can't blame anyone else!
 
Allah helps those who help themselves! :coffee: subko Allah paay chor doo specially when it all goes wrong! when you elect CORRUPT INEPT leaders then you seriously can't blame anyone else!

So wht do u suggest we should do . We can just Pray to Allah Almighty to make the things right .coz only Allah can make them right .No one else.
Long Live :pakistan:
 
So wht do u suggest we should do . We can just Pray to Allah Almighty to make the things right .coz only Allah can make them right .No one else.
Long Live :pakistan:

u ignored what i said!! i said Allah helps those who help themselves! so start electing right leaders control corruption!

if every minister & burecrat of pakistan stops corruption of 10 rs a day! paksitan will have 40 billion ruppes saved! :pakistan:
 
Or is it that Pak govt gives step motherly treatment to northern areas????

I think I asked you previously to put an end to your vilification of Punjabis and what not. Now you are back with another canard. As pointed out by posters elsewhere, inefficiency and slow responses by the GoP are its hallmark, regardless of which part of the country we are talking about.

Please check your prejudice and attempts to flame and troll at the door when you post on this forum. Indians have plenty of their own forums to spread these kinds of canards.
 
There is a mass of confusing and contradictory information about the state of flow in the Attabad spillway, but the FWO data appears to be consistent at the moment. The latest data, again via Dr Sadiq, is that flow was 3700 cusecs (105 cumecs) at 08:00 local time this morning. This makes the graph look like this:



This suggests that we are still seeing an incremental increase in flow. However, interestingly, the rate of inflow and the rate of outflow now appear to be balanced, such that the lake level should stop rising (for a while anyway). If this happens, and spillway flow continues to increase, we will know that erosion is developing.

Hunza landslide monitoring: Attabad: spillway flow update of 08:30 this morning
 
Water outflow from Attabad lake reaches 4800 cusecs

GILGIT: Water inflow and outflow from Attabad lake has reached 4800 cusecs on Sunday, Geo news reported.
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Meanwhile, the boat service in four affected areas located in tehsil Gojal is still underway, sources said.

For the first time in five years, the professional doctors have been deputed at the only hospital located in the headquarters Gulmat of tehsil Gojal irrespective of government’s never-met pledges to do the same for last five years.

Affectees of Attabad lake disaster are angry with government over false promises, sources said.
 

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