What's new

Humans emerged from male pig and female chimp, world's top geneticist says

.
Chimp-Pig.jpg

University of Georgia's Dr Eugene McCarthy has suggested that humans didn't evolve from just apes but was a backcross hybrid of a chimpanzee and pigs.


Humans emerged from male pig and female chimp, world's top geneticist says

LONDON: Humans are actually hybrids, who emerged as an offspring of a male pig and a female chimpanzee, according to one of the world's leading geneticist.
Turning the theory of human ancestry on its head, Dr Eugene McCarthy — one of the world's leading authorities on hybridization in animals from the University of Georgia has suggested that humans didn't evolve from just apes but was a backcross hybrid of a chimpanzee and pigs.

His hypothesis is based on the fact that though humans have many features in common with chimps, there are a lot more that don't correspond to any other primates. He then suggests that there is only one animal in the animal kingdom that has all of the traits which distinguish humans from our primate cousins.

"What is this other animal that has all these traits? The answer is Sus scrofa - the ordinary pig" he says.

He explains: "Genetically, we're close to chimpanzees, and yet we have many physical traits that distinguish us from chimpanzees. One fact, however, suggests the need for an open mind: as it turns out, many features that distinguish humans from chimpanzees also distinguish them from all other primates. Features found in human beings, but not in other primates, cannot be accounted for by hybridization of a primate with some other primate. If hybridization is to explain such features, the cross will have to be between a chimpanzee and a non-primate - an unusual, distant cross to create an unusual creature."

Dr McCarthy suggests that Charles Darwin told only half the story of human evolution.

"We believe that humans are related to chimpanzees because humans share so many traits with chimpanzees. Is it not rational then also, if pigs have all the traits that distinguish humans from other primates, to suppose that humans are also related to pigs? Let us take it as our hypothesis, then, that humans are the product of ancient hybridization between pig and chimpanzee," he said.

According to Dr McCarthy, if we compare humans with non-mammals or invertebrates like the crocodile, bullfrog, octopus, dragonfly and starfish, pigs and chimpanzees suddenly seem quite similar to humans.

Pigs and chimpanzees differ in chromosome counts. The opinion is often expressed that when two animals differ in this way, they cannot produce fertile hybrids. This rule is, however, only a generalization. While such differences do tend to have an adverse effect on the fertility of hybrid offspring, it is also true that many different types of crosses in which the parents differ in chromosome counts produce hybrids that capable themselves of producing offspring.

There is substantial evidence supporting the idea that very distantly related mammals can mate and produce a hybrid.

Another suggestive fact, Dr McCarthy says is the frequent use of pigs in the surgical treatment of human beings. Pig heart valves are used to replace those of human coronary patients. Pig skin is used in the treatment of human burn victims. "Serious efforts are now underway to transplant kidneys and other organs from pigs into human beings. Why are pigs suited for such purposes? Why not goats, dogs, or bears - animals that, in terms of taxonomic classification, are no more distantly related to human beings than pigs?," he said.

"It might seem unlikely that a pig and a chimpanzee would choose to mate, but their behaviour patterns and reproductive anatomy does, in fact, make them compatible. It is, of course, a well-established fact that animals sometimes attempt to mate with individuals that are unlike themselves, even in a natural setting, and that many of these crosses successfully produce hybrid offspring," he adds.

Dr Eugene McCarthy says that the fact that even modern-day humans are relatively infertile may be significant in this connection.

"If a hybrid population does not die out altogether, it will tend to improve in fertility with each passing generation under the pressure of natural selection. Fossils indicate that we have had at least 200,000 years to recover our fertility since the time that the first modern humans (Homo sapiens) appeared. The earliest creatures generally recognized as human ancestors (Ardipithecus, Orrorin) date to about six million years ago. So our fertility has had a very long time to improve. If we have been recovering for thousands of generations and still show obvious symptoms of sterility, then our earliest human ancestors, if they were hybrids, must have suffered from an infertility that was quite severe. This line of reasoning, too, suggests that the chimpanzee might have produced Homo sapiens by crossing with a genetically incompatible mate, possibly even one outside the primate order," he said


Humans emerged from male pig and female chimp, world's top geneticist says - The Times of India
:welcome:to:pdf::nono::sarcastic::astagh::omghaha:
 
.
Chimps and Pigs can't interbreed, its impossible. :wacko:
True ,the only plausible theory that can be crafted is if the Pig and the Ape branched off from some converging ancestry and Humans were the third chain that forged the middle path guide by evolutionary selection.

Frankly there are a ton of crackpot out there ogling out crap all the time. Theory crafting is as blasphemous as religion to ppl like me. So i always take such stuff with a pinch of salt. After all the only difference between laa la land and facts are rigorous peer studies and real world implementation that give recurring results.
 
. . .
Typical religious fanatics' response to belittle science and scientists. Let's talk some facts here.

Rationalist Judaism: Admitting Errors and Credibility

Scientific errors in the Bible - RationalWiki

Scientific Errors in the Qur'an - WikiIslam

All Abrahmic religions believe earth is flat. In fact, Galilio Galilei (now renowned astronomer) was killed by Catholic Church for saying earth is spherical and not flat and the sun doesn't revolve around it. Plus as these religions claim that their religious scripture are the words of God himself, why did God didn't tell them that he had made a circular earth and not flat? Since, he created everything :)

I'm sure there are scientific errors in Indian religions as well.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe in God as some divine power controlling this whole universe, but I don't believe in these religious books :)
 
. .
Evolution or creationism? makes no difference.

UGA is a party school. We at GA Tech seriously looked down upon them. If this is the quality of their research, then I suppose we were right.

Ask the professor to cross a pig with a chimpanzee. Until that turns something up, he'd better shut up and not bother us.
 
. .
Most probably, DNA studies for similarities in the genomes of three can answer the question. chimp genome is shown to be 99% similar to human. similarly, scientists have found 112 mutations in pig genome which are identical to human genome. this is a little suggestive; physiological systems of pig are also very similar to humans;they even share diseases. in Hinduism , there is a Monkey God - Hanuman. In Quran, the people are condemned to be apes and pigs, although most exegists say that it is only metaphorical, just like calling disbelievers deaf, dumb and blind. Pigs also are uniqque among hooved mammals to have been declared - haram. In the folklore of many religions, God condems people to devolve into monkeys and apes.
If we look closely at the monkeys and apes of the world we will find similarities to major racial groups: gorillas look like negroids, macaques like caucasians and orangutans like mongoloids. Now I am not jumping on conclusions, but thats a lot of food for thought and research.
 
.
There are serious flaws in this 'theory'. First of all, a single mating session cannot give rise to a species. We see that in the hybridisation of the Polar and Grizzly bear taking place right now, though the hybrid is fertile, yet they have not reached sufficient number and this is after the fact that there are so many fertilisations of the sort.

Secondly, in terms of evolution, there were competing species of humaniods: that cannot explain a single mating event and the variation that is seen in the fossils. The theory of interbreeding competition hold more weight.

Thirdly, had such an event taken place, there would have been more hybrids seen. Mammalian off-spring survives very specific gestations unlike the reptilian and avian species which explains their survival and rapid variation within a smaller frame of time.


Chimp-Pig.jpg

University of Georgia's Dr Eugene McCarthy has suggested that humans didn't evolve from just apes but was a backcross hybrid of a chimpanzee and pigs.


Humans emerged from male pig and female chimp, world's top geneticist says

LONDON: Humans are actually hybrids, who emerged as an offspring of a male pig and a female chimpanzee, according to one of the world's leading geneticist.
Turning the theory of human ancestry on its head, Dr Eugene McCarthy — one of the world's leading authorities on hybridization in animals from the University of Georgia has suggested that humans didn't evolve from just apes but was a backcross hybrid of a chimpanzee and pigs.

His hypothesis is based on the fact that though humans have many features in common with chimps, there are a lot more that don't correspond to any other primates. He then suggests that there is only one animal in the animal kingdom that has all of the traits which distinguish humans from our primate cousins.

"What is this other animal that has all these traits? The answer is Sus scrofa - the ordinary pig" he says.

He explains: "Genetically, we're close to chimpanzees, and yet we have many physical traits that distinguish us from chimpanzees. One fact, however, suggests the need for an open mind: as it turns out, many features that distinguish humans from chimpanzees also distinguish them from all other primates. Features found in human beings, but not in other primates, cannot be accounted for by hybridization of a primate with some other primate. If hybridization is to explain such features, the cross will have to be between a chimpanzee and a non-primate - an unusual, distant cross to create an unusual creature."

Dr McCarthy suggests that Charles Darwin told only half the story of human evolution.

"We believe that humans are related to chimpanzees because humans share so many traits with chimpanzees. Is it not rational then also, if pigs have all the traits that distinguish humans from other primates, to suppose that humans are also related to pigs? Let us take it as our hypothesis, then, that humans are the product of ancient hybridization between pig and chimpanzee," he said.

According to Dr McCarthy, if we compare humans with non-mammals or invertebrates like the crocodile, bullfrog, octopus, dragonfly and starfish, pigs and chimpanzees suddenly seem quite similar to humans.

Pigs and chimpanzees differ in chromosome counts. The opinion is often expressed that when two animals differ in this way, they cannot produce fertile hybrids. This rule is, however, only a generalization. While such differences do tend to have an adverse effect on the fertility of hybrid offspring, it is also true that many different types of crosses in which the parents differ in chromosome counts produce hybrids that capable themselves of producing offspring.

There is substantial evidence supporting the idea that very distantly related mammals can mate and produce a hybrid.

Another suggestive fact, Dr McCarthy says is the frequent use of pigs in the surgical treatment of human beings. Pig heart valves are used to replace those of human coronary patients. Pig skin is used in the treatment of human burn victims. "Serious efforts are now underway to transplant kidneys and other organs from pigs into human beings. Why are pigs suited for such purposes? Why not goats, dogs, or bears - animals that, in terms of taxonomic classification, are no more distantly related to human beings than pigs?," he said.

"It might seem unlikely that a pig and a chimpanzee would choose to mate, but their behaviour patterns and reproductive anatomy does, in fact, make them compatible. It is, of course, a well-established fact that animals sometimes attempt to mate with individuals that are unlike themselves, even in a natural setting, and that many of these crosses successfully produce hybrid offspring," he adds.

Dr Eugene McCarthy says that the fact that even modern-day humans are relatively infertile may be significant in this connection.

"If a hybrid population does not die out altogether, it will tend to improve in fertility with each passing generation under the pressure of natural selection. Fossils indicate that we have had at least 200,000 years to recover our fertility since the time that the first modern humans (Homo sapiens) appeared. The earliest creatures generally recognized as human ancestors (Ardipithecus, Orrorin) date to about six million years ago. So our fertility has had a very long time to improve. If we have been recovering for thousands of generations and still show obvious symptoms of sterility, then our earliest human ancestors, if they were hybrids, must have suffered from an infertility that was quite severe. This line of reasoning, too, suggests that the chimpanzee might have produced Homo sapiens by crossing with a genetically incompatible mate, possibly even one outside the primate order," he said


Humans emerged from male pig and female chimp, world's top geneticist says - The Times of India

Another theory I read a while back states that primates rate of evolution was much faster than their cousin species. That explains other variations in concurrence to the primates and the different direction other species took.
Most probably, DNA studies for similarities in the genomes of three can answer the question. chimp genome is shown to be 99% similar to human. similarly, scientists have found 112 mutations in pig genome which are identical to human genome. this is a little suggestive; physiological systems of pig are also very similar to humans;they even share diseases. in Hinduism , there is a Monkey God - Hanuman. In Quran, the people are condemned to be apes and pigs, although most exegists say that it is only metaphorical, just like calling disbelievers deaf, dumb and blind. Pigs also are uniqque among hooved mammals to have been declared - haram. In the folklore of many religions, God condems people to devolve into monkeys and apes.
If we look closely at the monkeys and apes of the world we will find similarities to major racial groups: gorillas look like negroids, macaques like caucasians and orangutans like mongoloids. Now I am not jumping on conclusions, but thats a lot of food for thought and research.
 
.
oh my, onion spring, where is that ancestry leading you

soon there will be all kinds of animals raping human genealogy to take revenge for what humans are doing to them now :jester:
 
.
Humans evolved from Chimps and Pigs... below is a proof. :D :D :D


monkey-humping-wild-pig-boar.jpg
 
. .
those who believe they are evolved from monkeys now will have to accomodate the pig bloodline as well.

Truth is not what you think sounds good, it's what 'is'. I think what the scientist says is not a small possibility of being true.
 
.
Back
Top Bottom