How will Nasr's Neutron warhead neutralize advancing enemy columns...

[Moon]

RCS is more important than just the physical size of a target

Really? That's only a major factor when it comes to planes. The same reason Israeli's don't use MPADS to shoot down rockets. Otherwise the Iron Dome shouldn't have existed, the size of these rockets and missiles are small enough to make it largely impossible for them to be shot down.

There's not much you can do with a 60Km missile/rocket in terms of maneuverability

How so? are you a rocket engineer? If a missile is deployed 40KM from target, can it not use 20 km to maneuver?

The Barak

Ah yes, any land deployed variants of Barak in service?. No?, too bad.

Too slow and too predictable

According to whom? You? (do you want another post about "glorifying yourself, underestimating others"?).

SPYDER

Mhmm, and I believe you. (Russo-Georgian).

Prahar

That won't save you, not one bit, considering Pakistan has A-100 MRLs as it's basic rocket artillery, and that's only what has been disclosed .

 

[randomradio]

Its another thing that you are posting pics from 1950s and 60s when effects of radiation and nuclear weapons themselves were less understood

Lol. So people who invented the bomb and worked on it for 20+ years suddenly were clueless about radiation.

Science education in Pakistan must be different from what I've had in India.

and these pictures were released as cold war propaganda tool. Did not depict the reality.

The pictures were secret military maneuvers which were declassified after the Cold War. They are not propaganda pictures.

Radio active materials don't get washed away by rain as you claim. The isotopes are very heavy, many times heavier than iron.

Incorrect. Water is used for washing fallout. That's a fact.

Your continuous humbug is quite uneducated and irritating.

I don't see you backing your opinions. Is that how debate happens in Pak?

Let him go on. I'm enjoying his dismissiveness of nuclear war. It makes life on PDF very "interesting". According to him, 100 nukes may just about be enough to destroy mumbai alone.....lol.....but then it will recover...lol......keep going.

PS if nuclear war was'nt very harmful the americans would have used it many times the last 50 years.

True. At least he is entertaining and sticking to his guns.
On topic, the results of actual use of a comparatively low yeild nuke on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quite horrendous.

[sarcasm]Oh, no! Look at all the radiation in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Oh, no, someone better tell them they will be poisoned here.

Nagasaki ground zero.
All that green stuff in the background must be radiation.

Hiroshima ground zero.

So much green stuff, so much radiation. All that white stuff in the air must be more fallout that is still devastating the land. All those poor people must be dead by now because this image is from 3 years ago. Oh, no!

It looks like science education in Pakistan needs an overhaul and they need to start using real science textbooks.[sarcasm ends]

Really? That's only a major factor when it comes to planes.

Pretty much.

The same reason Israeli's don't use MPADS to shoot down rockets. Otherwise the Iron Dome shouldn't have existed, the size of these rockets and missiles are small enough to make it largely impossible for them to be shot down.

No. The main criteria for Iron Dome is effectiveness + cost. Using a million dollar missile against a $100,000 rocket will make is affordable.

If a missile is deployed 40KM from target, can it not use 20 km to maneuver?

It's a ballistic missile. Ballistic trajectory is simple. A little bit of maneuverability won't stop a good BMD.

Ah yes, any land deployed variants of Barak in service?. No?, too bad.

It's coming up. Most likely next year. It's part of the IAF program for MRSAMs.

According to whom? You? (do you want another post about "glorifying yourself, underestimating others"?).

According to all renowned world scientists. Nasr follows a ballistic trajectory.

Mhmm, and I believe you. (Russo-Georgian).

Never heard of SPYDER?

That won't save you, not one bit, considering Pakistan has A-100 MRLs as it's basic rocket artillery, and that's only what has been disclosed .

How so? It's just a rocket/missile like Nasr.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lol. So people who invented the bomb and worked on it for 20+ years suddenly were clueless about radiation.

Science education in Pakistan must be different from what I've had in India.



The pictures were secret military maneuvers which were declassified after the Cold War. They are not propaganda pictures.



Incorrect. Water is used for washing fallout. That's a fact.



I don't see you backing your opinions. Is that how debate happens in Pak?





[sarcasm]Oh, no! Look at all the radiation in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Oh, no, someone better tell them they will be poisoned here.

Nagasaki ground zero.
All that green stuff in the background must be radiation.

Hiroshima ground zero.

So much green stuff, so much radiation. All that white stuff in the air must be more fallout that is still devastating the land. All those poor people must be dead by now because this image is from 3 years ago. Oh, no!

It looks like science education in Pakistan needs an overhaul and they need to start using real science textbooks.[sarcasm ends]



Pretty much.



No. The main criteria for Iron Dome is effectiveness + cost. Using a million dollar missile against a $100,000 rocket will make is affordable.



It's a ballistic missile. Ballistic trajectory is simple. A little bit of maneuverability won't stop a good BMD.



It's coming up. Most likely next year. It's part of the IAF program for MRSAMs.



According to all renowned world scientists. Nasr follows a ballistic trajectory.



Never heard of SPYDER?



How so? It's just a rocket/missile like Nasr.

Lol.....lol....lol....education or no education, I'd rather avoid radiation thank you very much. Hope you don't mind. Even if you wash it out with water.

 

[randomradio]

Iron dome will not be deployed on border just like NASR so range will be an issue, NASR is still capable of firing a slavo that would be hard to intercept and Iron Dome doesnt have the capability to intercept missiles coming from two or more directions.

I'm talking about Iron Dome within IA strike formations, not on the border. If you want to destroy a IBG, you will have to defeat the Iron Dome first.

And the Iron Dome itself has changed a lot since before.

The MILLION $$$$DOLLAR$$$$ QUESTION is :

Does India have the balls to send its armoured forces to a CERTAIN Nuclear-melting skin-painfully agonizing death by NASR ??????

Yes. And an escalation will only be met with another escalation.

 

[NKVD]

NASR will be hard to take out mainly because:

1.They will be placed at certain strategic positions inside Pakistan when the intel gives a report of escalation in near future.
2. PA knows monitoring by satellite so uses the cover of fog for important convoys movement.
3. PA will use decoys and to create confusions about location and numbers.
4. The shoot and scoot capability favours NASR.

Sirji , Nasr Is Tactical Nuclear weapon Its Vulnerable to Ani-radiation Seeking Stand-off Due it High radiation Emission Signature More than Radars
No Point of Decoy

There Dedicated SIGINT Satellite's to Detect Nuclear radiations Do you heard of US MASINT

There various Element of Intelligence Involved In such ops Ground Recon or Air Recon

Mass deployment Nasr Will always be Limited Any Major Movement In ground Will be Pick up By Satellites.
In war the Element of Surprise Advantage is Always Favors One Who Attacks.

 

[Tipu7]

Wait......

You guys are talking about knocking down NASR TEL by using anti radiation missile?

Sirji , Nasr Is Tactical Nuclear weapon Its Vulnerable to Ani-radiation Seeking Stand-off Due it High radiation Emission Signature More than Radars
No Point of Decoy

There Dedicated SIGINT Satellite's to Detect Nuclear radiations Do you heard of US MASINT

There various Element of Intelligence Involved In such ops Ground Recon or Air Recon

Mass deployment Nasr Will always be Limited Any Major Movement In ground Will be Pick up By Satellites.
In war the Element of Surprise Advantage is Always Favors One Who Attacks.

I'm talking about Iron Dome within IA strike formations, not on the border. If you want to destroy a IBG, you will have to defeat the Iron Dome first

There is neither Iron dome in Indian arsenal nor it can intercept NASR missile ......

Yes. And an escalation will only be met with another escalation.

And the cycle continues.......

Lol. So people who invented the bomb and worked on it for 20+ years suddenly were clueless about radiation.

Science education in Pakistan must be different from what I've had in India.



The pictures were secret military maneuvers which were declassified after the Cold War. They are not propaganda pictures.



Incorrect. Water is used for washing fallout. That's a fact.



I don't see you backing your opinions. Is that how debate happens in Pak?





[sarcasm]Oh, no! Look at all the radiation in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Oh, no, someone better tell them they will be poisoned here.

Nagasaki ground zero.
All that green stuff in the background must be radiation.

Hiroshima ground zero.

So much green stuff, so much radiation. All that white stuff in the air must be more fallout that is still devastating the land. All those poor people must be dead by now because this image is from 3 years ago. Oh, no!

It looks like science education in Pakistan needs an overhaul and they need to start using real science textbooks.[sarcasm ends]



Pretty much.



No. The main criteria for Iron Dome is effectiveness + cost. Using a million dollar missile against a $100,000 rocket will make is affordable.



It's a ballistic missile. Ballistic trajectory is simple. A little bit of maneuverability won't stop a good BMD.



It's coming up. Most likely next year. It's part of the IAF program for MRSAMs.



According to all renowned world scientists. Nasr follows a ballistic trajectory.



Never heard of SPYDER?



How so? It's just a rocket/missile like Nasr.

WHAT THE HELL

In which class/grade you study?

 

[randomradio]

There is neither Iron dome in Indian arsenal nor it can intercept NASR missile ......

Don't worry about that. There is no war happening in the next few years anyway.

WHAT THE HELL

In which class/grade you study?

In India, only uneducated people behave this way. Counter it if you can, emoticons do nothing.

Can you explain why Hiroshima's population doubled in one year after the attack?

 

[PakShaheen79]

I think after NASR, now Pakistan must start working on another layer before Nasr through development of dedicated CAS aircraft like A-10s. Pakistan cannot deter Indian armored units 1 by 1. Nasr is effective solution but there can be repercussion afterwards its usage in battlefield. So in order to regrade invading Indian IBGs, it would be better to have a aerial platform like A-10 armed with air 2 ground anti-Armour munitions. In this way, Pakistan will be able to push the nuclear threshold up from its current position. If we can produce such a platform in numbers and deploy it in pure defensive role, there can be a possibility for Pakistan to opt for 'No First Use' position which will be politically more acceptable for the world.

 

[Sven]

And radiation can be washed off. Sailors cleaning the carrier deck from real fallout from the Fukushima incident. Most of them have not covered themselves completely. Hell, Tupperware can protect your food from contamination.

That isn't a realistic portrayal of United States Navy battlefield disaster responses. It was done during a peacetime operation in which the ship was exposed to minimal amounts of radiation, hence why the soldiers aren't wearing anything other then their normal gear.

During general quarters and damage assessments, sailors will be wearing actual protective gear and no one will be allowed on the deck until damage assessment teams clear the deck (remove scrapped aircraft, explosives or explosive residue, assess damage) and assess it as safe.

Carriers are equipped with decontamination capabilities including their sprinkler system and HVAC components, and they use the sprinklers to "wash off radiation", more specifically radioactive contaminants like dust or mud, but that particular picture isn't a realistic wartime representation.

So let's not use it as such.

 

[randomradio]

That isn't a realistic portrayal of United States Navy battlefield disaster responses. It was done during a peacetime operation in which the ship was exposed to minimal amounts of radiation, hence why the soldiers aren't wearing anything other then their normal gear.

During general quarters and damage assessments, sailors will be wearing actual protective gear and no one will be allowed on the deck until damage assessment teams clear the deck (remove scrapped aircraft, explosives or explosive residue, assess damage) and assess it as safe.

Carriers are equipped with decontamination capabilities including their sprinkler system and HVAC components, and they use the sprinklers to "wash off radiation", more specifically radioactive contaminants like dust or mud, but that particular picture isn't a realistic wartime representation.

So let's not use it as such.

It most definitely is not a wartime representation of a decontamination operation. But if you have read all the posts before that, you will notice that the belief is it is impossible to decontaminate an environment. If you want to educate them, you will have to present evidence which comes closest to such a process.

So the point was decontamination can happen even without protective gear and that decontamination is possible.

 

[Sinnerman108]

I find the british, french, russian and american nuclear weapons as disgusting as the ones from india, pakistan or china.

Italy too once wanted to have nuclear weapons. The people demonstrated against it. They even demonstrated against nuclear power plants. God was merciful with us as he gave us this beautiful land. I would see it as an insult for our creator if we would allow something as pathetic as this on our land out of our own free will.

I saw pictures from pakistan and india here. You both have alot of beauty in your nations as well. I hope you value it enough so you will never use this pathetic things and in best case get rid of them.

Italians are cool people,

You give us Zegna, art, design, architecture bellucci and Caterina Murino not to forget God Father.

I like them.

 

[NKVD]

Wait......b

You guys are talking about knocking down NASR TEL by using anti radiation missile?

Even a Low Level Loiter Drone IAI Harop can to the Job

 

[Sven]

Sirji , Nasr Is Tactical Nuclear weapon Its Vulnerable to Ani-radiation Seeking Stand-off Due it High radiation Emission Signature More than Radars

NASR is a quick launch weapon used to eliminate high value targets quickly and before a counterattack can commence against a NASR battery, so anti-radiation missiles aren't going to be of much use when a missile's already been launched.

This is why it's imperative for India to invest in loitering radiological detection platforms like WC-135 that specialize in detecting radiological emissions sources:

Identify where NASR batteries are before hand, track their movements, and ensure counter-battery, air defense or friendly troops have the means of dealing with the threat.

Such a platform would be able to straddle Pakistani airspace, or even act within India's putting It outside of Pakistani air defenses during peacetime operations.

There Dedicated SIGINT Satellite's to Detect Nuclear radiations.

Are there? How do we propose a satellite "sniffs" radiological contaminants from an orbital trajectory? Ones sensitive enough to detect normal radioactive decay emissions from a nuclear device?

I might have an answer.

 

[Moon]

Pretty much

A rocket is faster and smaller than a plane, thus requires a better missile defense system, and when it comes to maneuverable small projectiles like Nasr, it's even more difficult. That's a fact.

No. The main criteria for Iron Dome is effectiveness + cost. Using a million dollar missile against a $100,000 rocket will make is affordable.

No idea what you've written.

Ballistic trajectory is simple

Not necessarily, these missiles can maneuver and hit their target. Again, simplifying capabilities of others, boy you really don't learn, do you?.

According to all renowned world scientists

Any renowned scientist who says Nasr can't maneuver?, I have one saying it can, but then again you won't believe it, would you?.

Never heard

Ever heard of Russo-Georgian war, and what happened to SPYDER?.

good BMD

Which one does India possess?.

Most likely next year

. Boy have I heard that one before.

How so? It's just a rocket/missile like Nasr

That statement was in comparison to how you boastfully said

India has the Prahar as well.

Have a nice one.

 

[NKVD]

NASR is a quick launch weapon used to eliminate high value targets quickly and before a counterattack can commence against a NASR battery, so anti-radiation missiles aren't going to be of much use when a missile's already been launched.

This is why it's imperative for India to invest in loitering radiological detection platforms like WC-135 that specialize in detecting radiological emissions sources:

Identify where NASR batteries are before hand, track their movements, and ensure counter-battery, air defense or friendly troops have the means of dealing with the threat.

Such a platform would be able to straddle Pakistani airspace, or even act within India's putting It outside of Pakistani air defenses during peacetime operations.



Are there? How do we propose a satellite "sniffs" radiological contaminants from an orbital trajectory? Ones sensitive enough to detect normal radioactive decay emissions from a nuclear device?

I might have an answer.

What HAPPENS to you Previous ID Bro ??