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By Noah Smith | Bloomberg
Today at 9:28 p.m. EDT

Kamala Harris’ historic visit to Vietnam — the first time a U.S. vice president has visited the country since the end of the war — has got me thinking about the relationship between the two countries. Both nations’ interests would be served by a closer economic partnership. But making such a partnership work will require far-sighted policy changes on the part of both governments. The U.S. must open itself to trade with Vietnam, while Vietnam must rebalance and strengthen its economic development model.

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The increasing diplomatic warmth between the U.S. and its old wartime foe is not primarily about economics; it’s about China. Vietnam feels menaced by its huge northern neighbor, with whom it has ongoing territorial disputes and a long history of warfare. Though an outright alliance with the U.S. is highly unlikely, Vietnam is understandably seeking a strategic partnership to help maintain the balance of power.

The success of such a partnership will depend crucially on economic factors. Vietnam has made great strides recently in terms of boosting its people’s standard of living, but it’s still a poor country, with a level of technology that makes it a poor match for an increasingly cutting-edge China. The U.S. needs to structure its economic relationship with Vietnam around helping that country to grow, not just for the sake of Vietnamese people’s living standards, but so that the country will make a more powerful ally.

In many ways, Vietnam is following the well-trodden East Asian development model. A series of liberalizing reforms in the 1980s led to a hybrid of communist authoritarianism combined with capitalist enterprise. It joined the World Trade Organizatoin, signed a trade agreement with the U.S., and became an export powerhouse of labor-intensive manufactured products like clothing and electronics. And it held down the value of its currency in order to make its products more competitive overseas.

This standard model has allowed Vietnam to quadruple its living standards, and to benefit from the U.S.-China trade war.
So far, so good. But making cheap stuff and selling it overseas will only take a country so far. To catch up with China, Vietnam will have to boost productivity and move up the value chain, shifting to higher-value technologically advanced products. As evidenced by the fact that Vietnam’s productivity growth has been slowing down, making the leap to the next level of development will require a number of changes.

First, Vietnam has to get better at doing the things that governments typically do to aid growth — education and infrastructure. The country has great primary and secondary education but falters when it comes to higher ed, so colleges need to be beefed up. The country’s road system is relatively poor, and its ports are frequently strained to capacity.

Next, Vietnam needs to develop world-class companies. Currently, the country’s leading corporations are in traditional upstream sectors like oil and electricity, or in primary industries like food and paper; much of the actual manufacturing is done by foreign firms. Building better companies in export sectors like electronics would allow Vietnam not only to capture a bigger share of the value of global supply chains (through branding and marketing), but to better absorb foreign technology as well. As author Joe Studwell illustrates in his book “How Asia Works,” the example of South Korea’s Hyundai Motor Co. shows how manufacturers can be very effective vehicles for learning foreign ways of making things and doing business. Vietnam should aim to create similar champions.

Finally, Vietnam should drop the focus on currency undervaluation — both because it’s sure to eventually make its trading partners mad, and because it subsidizes unproductive exporters as well as productive ones. Instead, the country should switch to a strategy of what Studwell calls “export discipline” — temporarily helping companies to get started as exporters, but withdrawing support for those that fail in global markets.

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By Noah Smith | Bloomberg
Today at 9:28 p.m. EDT

Kamala Harris’ historic visit to Vietnam — the first time a U.S. vice president has visited the country since the end of the war — has got me thinking about the relationship between the two countries. Both nations’ interests would be served by a closer economic partnership. But making such a partnership work will require far-sighted policy changes on the part of both governments. The U.S. must open itself to trade with Vietnam, while Vietnam must rebalance and strengthen its economic development model.

Support our journalism. Subscribe today.
The increasing diplomatic warmth between the U.S. and its old wartime foe is not primarily about economics; it’s about China. Vietnam feels menaced by its huge northern neighbor, with whom it has ongoing territorial disputes and a long history of warfare. Though an outright alliance with the U.S. is highly unlikely, Vietnam is understandably seeking a strategic partnership to help maintain the balance of power.

The success of such a partnership will depend crucially on economic factors. Vietnam has made great strides recently in terms of boosting its people’s standard of living, but it’s still a poor country, with a level of technology that makes it a poor match for an increasingly cutting-edge China. The U.S. needs to structure its economic relationship with Vietnam around helping that country to grow, not just for the sake of Vietnamese people’s living standards, but so that the country will make a more powerful ally.

In many ways, Vietnam is following the well-trodden East Asian development model. A series of liberalizing reforms in the 1980s led to a hybrid of communist authoritarianism combined with capitalist enterprise. It joined the World Trade Organizatoin, signed a trade agreement with the U.S., and became an export powerhouse of labor-intensive manufactured products like clothing and electronics. And it held down the value of its currency in order to make its products more competitive overseas.

This standard model has allowed Vietnam to quadruple its living standards, and to benefit from the U.S.-China trade war.
So far, so good. But making cheap stuff and selling it overseas will only take a country so far. To catch up with China, Vietnam will have to boost productivity and move up the value chain, shifting to higher-value technologically advanced products. As evidenced by the fact that Vietnam’s productivity growth has been slowing down, making the leap to the next level of development will require a number of changes.

First, Vietnam has to get better at doing the things that governments typically do to aid growth — education and infrastructure. The country has great primary and secondary education but falters when it comes to higher ed, so colleges need to be beefed up. The country’s road system is relatively poor, and its ports are frequently strained to capacity.

Next, Vietnam needs to develop world-class companies. Currently, the country’s leading corporations are in traditional upstream sectors like oil and electricity, or in primary industries like food and paper; much of the actual manufacturing is done by foreign firms. Building better companies in export sectors like electronics would allow Vietnam not only to capture a bigger share of the value of global supply chains (through branding and marketing), but to better absorb foreign technology as well. As author Joe Studwell illustrates in his book “How Asia Works,” the example of South Korea’s Hyundai Motor Co. shows how manufacturers can be very effective vehicles for learning foreign ways of making things and doing business. Vietnam should aim to create similar champions.

Finally, Vietnam should drop the focus on currency undervaluation — both because it’s sure to eventually make its trading partners mad, and because it subsidizes unproductive exporters as well as productive ones. Instead, the country should switch to a strategy of what Studwell calls “export discipline” — temporarily helping companies to get started as exporters, but withdrawing support for those that fail in global markets.

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This here is a huge lesson for Pakistan. Vietnam and the US went to war for a long time and lots of American soldiers died. However, for mutual interests against China, they are uniting again.

Pakistan on the other hand, is NOT a US enemy and has never gotten against the US. So, you guys need to realize that the US is a huge economy and it can only benefit you.

For some reason, the Pakistanis spew their hate against the US openly. Sadly, that's the worst tactic. We ALL know India wants to be a super power. Every Indian I know, speaks with that in mind (and I know a lot of Indian and Pakistanis). You would never see them bash the US openly outside of their media or like this on open forums.

Someone shared a video with me where an Indian guy was talking about Pakistan in a US street protest of some kind (and totally irrelevant) and kept saying, have you ever seen an Indian so against the US vs. average Pakistanis? These forums, discussions, etc, are a reflection of a national narrative too. I hope your GOP realizes how important this is. I know a LOT of talent in Pakistan and I know at this point, Bangladesh is far ahead in economy than Pakistan. Now Vietnam might boost it's trade. Where is Pakistan at? You as people have to take it forward and first thing is a positive image that needs to be projected.
 
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If you search the USA for economic advice to China, you will find that China has been doing the opposite. India has always complied with the requirements of the USA.

Now the USA wants a country that is developing labor-intensive manufacturing to appreciate its currency.
Japan did not allow its currency to appreciate until it was forced to sign the Plaza Accord. And China has refused to appreciate its currency until now.
 
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This here is a huge lesson for Pakistan. Vietnam and the US went to war for a long time and lots of American soldiers died. However, for mutual interests against China, they are uniting again.

Pakistan on the other hand, is NOT a US enemy and has never gotten against the US. So, you guys need to realize that the US is a huge economy and it can only benefit you.

For some reason, the Pakistanis spew their hate against the US openly. Sadly, that's the worst tactic. We ALL know India wants to be a super power. Every Indian I know, speaks with that in mind (and I know a lot of Indian and Pakistanis). You would never see them bash the US openly outside of their media or like this on open forums.

Someone shared a video with me where an Indian guy was talking about Pakistan in a US street protest of some kind (and totally irrelevant) and kept saying, have you ever seen an Indian so against the US vs. average Pakistanis? These forums, discussions, etc, are a reflection of a national narrative too. I hope your GOP realizes how important this is. I know a LOT of talent in Pakistan and I know at this point, Bangladesh is far ahead in economy than Pakistan. Now Vietnam might boost it's trade. Where is Pakistan at? You as people have to take it forward and first thing is a positive image that needs to be projected.
Hypocritical Americans.
In 2001, the United States invaded Afghanistan through Pakistan.
I have 3 questions:
1. How much does the US import goods from Pakistan?
2. How much does the US invest in Pakistan?
3. How much aid does the America give to Pakistan?
 
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Generally Americans think that the development of Vietnam is not good for China. This is a very wrong view.
A wealthy Vietnam will buy more Chinese products, which is beneficial to China; exporting more goods to America and other countries is beneficial to Vietnam.
The development and growth of Vietnam's manufacturing industry is conducive to China and Asia as a whole to increase the share of manufacturing, and the failure of the US manufacturing industry to return is beneficial to China.
A wealthy Vietnam will enhance the reputation of socialist ideology and make Vietnam more stable. A confident Vietnam will not worship the Western values, and color revolutions will not happen .
Of course, the Americans hope that Vietnam will develop military power to threaten China. However, a richer and stronger Japan cannot threaten China, Vietnam will not be called China’s trouble either.
In general, a wealthy Vietnam is in line with China's strategy of developing itself and weakening the US, and is conducive to China's global competition with the US. Therefore, Chinese government has not opposed the US investment in Vietnam.
 
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This here is a huge lesson for Pakistan. Vietnam and the US went to war for a long time and lots of American soldiers died. However, for mutual interests against China, they are uniting again.

Pakistan on the other hand, is NOT a US enemy and has never gotten against the US. So, you guys need to realize that the US is a huge economy and it can only benefit you.

For some reason, the Pakistanis spew their hate against the US openly. Sadly, that's the worst tactic. We ALL know India wants to be a super power. Every Indian I know, speaks with that in mind (and I know a lot of Indian and Pakistanis). You would never see them bash the US openly outside of their media or like this on open forums.

Someone shared a video with me where an Indian guy was talking about Pakistan in a US street protest of some kind (and totally irrelevant) and kept saying, have you ever seen an Indian so against the US vs. average Pakistanis? These forums, discussions, etc, are a reflection of a national narrative too. I hope your GOP realizes how important this is. I know a LOT of talent in Pakistan and I know at this point, Bangladesh is far ahead in economy than Pakistan. Now Vietnam might boost it's trade. Where is Pakistan at? You as people have to take it forward and first thing is a positive image that needs to be projected.
The answer is simple. We are not like people in Iran, China or North Korea that resort to anti US as political tool and sometimes those sometimes fanatic people misuse the anti US rhetoric as if it is their DNA nature.

Our relationship to America is just Bismarck’s real politics.

If the Eskimo becomes a superpower tomorrow and they support us on the path of prosperity then we are pro Eskimo.

It’s not personally.
 
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The answer is simple. We are not like people in Iran, China or North Korea that resort to anti US as political tool and sometimes those sometimes fanatic people misuse the anti US rhetoric as if it is their DNA nature.

Our relationship to America is just Bismarck’s real politics.

If the Eskimo becomes a superpower tomorrow and they support us on the path of prosperity then we are pro Eskimo.

It’s not personally.
That's why Iran, China and North Korea can have nukes but Vietnam still can't and must play the geopolitical game.
Please stop speaking.
 
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This here is a huge lesson for Pakistan. Vietnam and the US went to war for a long time and lots of American soldiers died. However, for mutual interests against China, they are uniting again.

Pakistan on the other hand, is NOT a US enemy and has never gotten against the US. So, you guys need to realize that the US is a huge economy and it can only benefit you.

For some reason, the Pakistanis spew their hate against the US openly. Sadly, that's the worst tactic. We ALL know India wants to be a super power. Every Indian I know, speaks with that in mind (and I know a lot of Indian and Pakistanis). You would never see them bash the US openly outside of their media or like this on open forums.

Someone shared a video with me where an Indian guy was talking about Pakistan in a US street protest of some kind (and totally irrelevant) and kept saying, have you ever seen an Indian so against the US vs. average Pakistanis? These forums, discussions, etc, are a reflection of a national narrative too. I hope your GOP realizes how important this is. I know a LOT of talent in Pakistan and I know at this point, Bangladesh is far ahead in economy than Pakistan. Now Vietnam might boost it's trade. Where is Pakistan at? You as people have to take it forward and first thing is a positive image that needs to be projected.
We were with usa. We lost Bangladesh.. we were sections thousands times. We dont truth usa..
 
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That's why Iran, China and North Korea can have nukes but Vietnam still can't and must play the geopolitical game.
Please stop speaking.
2021 the US gives Vietnam the technology to make mRNA vaccine.
2021 BC chinese gave Vietnam the technology to make wooden chopsticks.
 
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2021 the US gives Vietnam the technology to make mRNA vaccine.
2021 BC chinese gave Vietnam the technology to make wooden chopsticks.
Stick that mRNA cocktail up your a**, I want nukes, not useless endevour.
 
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Stick that mRNA cocktail up your a**, I want nukes, not useless endevour.
Really? I am with you. A red button on the table looks nice. Unfortunately VN is committed to non nuclear weapons. May change though.
 
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The answer is simple. We are not like people in Iran, China or North Korea that resort to anti US as political tool and sometimes those sometimes fanatic people misuse the anti US rhetoric as if it is their DNA nature.

Our relationship to America is just Bismarck’s real politics.

If the Eskimo becomes a superpower tomorrow and they support us on the path of prosperity then we are pro Eskimo.

It’s not personally.

Thank you for the post. This is the SAME mindset I'm trying my Pakistan to understand. By spitting hate on daily basis, its not going to change anything. Sending a positive message that the people of Pakistan welcome the US PUBLIC and want to have a good relationship that takes Pakistan to prosperity. Just like India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia and now Vietnam.
 
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The answer is simple. We are not like people in Iran, China or North Korea that resort to anti US as political tool and sometimes those sometimes fanatic people misuse the anti US rhetoric as if it is their DNA nature.

Our relationship to America is just Bismarck’s real politics.

If the Eskimo becomes a superpower tomorrow and they support us on the path of prosperity then we are pro Eskimo.

It’s not personally.

Haaaaaaaaaaaa!

The bombed, burned, poisoned and raped their way through your country and then commemorated their war criminal John McCain on your soil while trying to recruit you to fight your next door neighbor who is also your grandpa.
 
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Haaaaaaaaaaaa!

The bombed, burned, poisoned and raped their way through your country and then commemorated their war criminal John McCain on your soil while trying to recruit you to fight your next door neighbor who is also your grandpa.

John Sidney McCain Memorial, he is kneed and hands up, its symbol to the victory of Vietnamese people.

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