how the US invasion transformed Iraq from a secular westernized advanced country into a theocracy

[Malik Alashter]

i can say for certain...

1. you don't agree with socialism ( at which ever level ).

2. you agree with sectarianism.

3. we will never agree with each other.

I have never knew what sectarianism until I left my country then I saw the ugly face of sunnis sorry to say that but that's what I got.
Let me tell you this every thing you accuse the west with you have it but in worst and biggest amount.

 

[gambit]

yes, usa military is the angel... joke of the century.

The admonishment was that the US military should not go where angels fear to tread. But we did. I never said the US military is the angel. Try to keep up with the debate, kid.

Nevertheless, the US military is a lot better than most out there, including your own.

does usa itself have true democracy or is a dictatorship of two parties who in their own ways try to keep the banks afloat even if it means injustices towards americans themselves ??

Meaningless drivel, usually from those who have a shallow understanding of democracy to start, let alone how democracy is practiced in the US.

the "occupy wall street" movement declares the citizens' opposition to the illusion of usa brand of democracy.

And the American public rejected the 'occupy' movement. You did not know that ?

true democracy is true communism.

Yeah...Let me know when you found one.

many would say that obama is the despot.

How many ?

The world would be a lot better and peaceful if the US stays within its borders. That's for sure.

Then tell the despots to stay in theirs.

Yes, I agree. And yet, the USA bungles into those places in the delusional attempt of bringing "freedom and democracy" to those places. USA, Iraq, and the world would have been better places today, if USA had not embarked on the Iraq misadventure in 2003. It was a colossal, criminal blunder to invade Iraq out of the blue, on the pretext of bringing democracy to them.

We removed the dictator, so what do you propose to replace him ? By the way, we removed Saddam Hussein to prevent Iraq from being a nuclear weapons state, not to bring democracy to Iraq. I guess news are slow to get to India ?

 

[SALMAN F]

Advanced in what?.

many mistakes like the war against kurds the war against Iran and the invasion.

When you insist to stand against a big power then you should never ever let them have the first strike you should never let your army slain he ordered the army to withdrew from kuwait while the army was under constant attack all that to keep his power I spit on his grave the coward that made Iraq in chaos and civil war for only god knows.

That isn't fable that is true we Iraqis and we know them well.
Baathis behind most of the killing in Iraq they use extremists to do what they can't do and they use them as a name to hide their crimes behind them you don't know what's going on that's fine but don't make yourself a fool spread their propaganda.

my user name refer to a freedom fighter in our history.


How they did the same mistake please elaborate.


Why don't you show some respect to the Iraqis?.....But what would we expect from a guy loyal to Gadhafi!!!! why didn't you stay with your Gadhafi why you still in India doing what?.

You are wrong about these kurdish terrorists they are the one who make trouble and started terrorism against the different iraqi governments

 

[Malik Alashter]

You are wrong about these kurdish terrorists they are the one who make trouble and started terrorism against the different iraqi governments

You right.

 

[Aramagedon]

I think the war against Iran, Kuwait and later against US (and the events to 2003) by crazy saddam was the worst disaster for Iraq during the 150 years ago...

Iraq has damaged very badly in 40 years ago because of baath regime.

I really like Islamic countries equal to my country, especially Iraq that majority are Shia.

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Guys please read this thread

https://defence.pk/threads/united-states-support-for-saddam-during-the-iran–iraq-war.383402/

 

[macnurv]

I have never knew what sectarianism until I left my country then I saw the ugly face of sunnis sorry to say that but that's what I got.
Let me tell you this every thing you accuse the west with you have it but in worst and biggest amount.

I am sorry but the Shia militias committed genocide against the Sunnis as well. I am not making a judgement call here but don't just blame Sunnis for the troubles. The sectarian government of Al-Maliki ensured marginalization of Sunnis with Shia militia death squads roaming the cities of Iraq.

 

[Aramagedon]

I am sorry but the Shia militias committed genocide against the Sunnis as well. I am not making a judgement call here but don't just blame Sunnis for the troubles. The sectarian government of Al-Maliki ensured marginalization of Sunnis with Shia militia death squads roaming the cities of Iraq.

The Maliki government was 'completely' democracy, unlike 90% of Arabic dictatorship countries.
The problem in Iraq is only sectarian policis from US and Saudia.

1 million Iraqis have gotten killed in bomb explosions since 2003 by takfiri goons.

The statistics show even most of the suiciders were not Iraqi. 60% of them are/were Saudi. Is it Shia fault?

 

[macnurv]

The Maliki government was 'completely' democracy, unlike 90% of Arabic dictatorship countries.
The problem in Iraq is only sectarian policis from US and Saudia.

1 million Iraqis have become martyred in bomb explosions since 2003 by takfiri goons.

The statisticals show most of the suiciders even were not Iraqi. 60% of them are/were Saudi. Is it Shia fault?

Utter non-sense, of course Iran would call it a democracy since thanks to American and Arab foolishness, Iran was not only able to increase its sphere for influence but got complete control over Iraq.

 

[Aramagedon]

Utter non-sense, of course Iran would call it a democracy since thanks to American and Arab foolishness, Iran was not only able to increase its sphere for influence but got complete control over Iraq.

Nonsence is in your head. Iran and Iraq are two Shia countries therefore they are friends but Iran does not control Iraq. In any case Iraqis have voted to their governers so they can decide how they act. Turks have voted to sultan erdogan he can decide how he acts...

 

[macnurv]

Nonsence is in your head. Iran and Iraq are two Shia countries therefore they are friends but Iran does not control Iraq. In any case Iraqis have voted to their governers so they can decide how they act and Iran does not control them. Turks have voted to sultan erdogan he can decide how he acts...

Go learn to spell first you moron, if Iraq is such a true democracy then feel free to import that to your country and get rid of the Shia pope aka Ayatollah as the supreme head of the country. Turkey is a million times better democracy when compared to Iran which is not even a democracy to being with.
Stay on topic.

 

[Aramagedon]

Go learn to spell first you moron, if Iraq is such a true democracy then feel free to import that to your country and get rid of the Shia pope aka Ayatollah as the supreme head of the country. Turkey is a million times better democracy when compared to Iran which is not even a democracy to being with.
Stay on topic.

Ok get lost imbecile.

 

[macnurv]

Ok get lost imbecile.

Good at least you know how to spell your last name correctly. Very good.

 

[fallstuff]

Was Life for Iraqi Women Better Under Saddam?

@C130 @Saif al-Arab @atatwolf @Serpentine @Dr.Thrax @IR-TR

Bush, Cheney and Blair decided to disregard every sane advice about not invading. These guys were going to bring Democracy in Iraq to stabilize the ME once and for all.

As the saying goes, " The road to hell/disaster is paved with good intentions."

 

[Malik Alashter]

Ok get lost imbecile.

You waist your time with these people do you even where is this guy from? No.

 

[ayesha.a]

yeah, they did not kill in cold blood, killed in airstrike. in any case saddam was cruel, and his population(shia majority) would have replaced him if they had chance.

Actually they were killed by ground units of task force 20, comprised of rangers delta and other special forces: