How secular, really, is India?

[Titanium]

Nothing to laugh about Subsidy is being provided to pilgrims much before private airlines came into being, Subsidy is significant amount of travel.

Actually secular government is not supposed to provide subsidy to people from one religion.

You may be aware this thread it is questioning Secularism of India. You can discuss about India's poor in another thread.

Do you even know how the airlines work?

You know the IATA fare of any destination? Do you ever pay the full amount.........???? Always Airlines gives subsidy/discount depending upon seasons. So you get the ticket depending upon time you travel.

Do you know Pilgrims travel not as individuals by themselves.......they travel through central organisation. Do you heard of term "Group Buy", where a group of people combine to bargain for the best price? Yes you get 1,00,000+ customers to travel from point A to Point B, so Mr.Airline what price do you provide?

Now do you think the airline provide the IATA fare or the discounted fare? ........ this is business model. As all things Muslims....... Brahmins have perfected the art of repeat a LIE thousands time it will sound Truth.


So dear think, before succembing to the propaganda............you have been provided with something called thinking capacity by Almighty.........use it, understand things.... don't take propganda as truth.

Remember Arjun is equalent to Leopard hype or LCA better than Typhoon campaign in forums around.... Time/Samay is the great leveller.

 

[Goodperson]

Do you even know how the airlines work?

You know the IATA fare of any destination? Do you ever pay the full amount.........???? Always Airlines gives subsidy/discount depending upon seasons. So you get the ticket depending upon time you travel.

Do you know Pilgrims travel not as individuals by themselves.......they travel through central organisation. Do you heard of term "Group Buy", where a group of people combine to bargain for the best price? Yes you get 1,00,000+ customers to travel from point A to Point B, so Mr.Airline what price do you provide?

Now do you think the airline provide the IATA fare or the discounted fare? ........ this is business model. As all things Muslims....... Brahmins have perfected the art of repeat a LIE thousands time it will sound Truth.


So dear think, before succembing to the propaganda............you have been provided with something called thinking capacity by Almighty.........use it, understand things.... don't take propganda as truth.

Remember Arjun is equalent to Leopard hype or LCA better than Typhoon campaign in forums around.... Time/Samay is the great leveller.

The question is about special subsidy for a particular religion which actually is not Secular but is for appeasement of people from that religion and is all votebank politics in India.

"Haj subsidy is subsidy in airfare given to the Indian Haj pilgrims . The Haj pilgrims going through Haj Committee of India are offered subsidy/concession in airfare. It is paid by the Government of India to the Air India.

It is criticised on the grounds that (1) no Islamic country offers any subsidy for Haj pilgrims. Pakistan did until the Lahore High Court banned the practice and that (2) it is against Islamic theology to be obligated to anyone for performing Haj."

Haj subsidy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As only India gives Haj subsidy I quoted from wiki let me know if you want other links or just do a google.

 

[Titanium]

The question is about special subsidy for a particular religion which actually is not Secular but is for appeasement of people from that religion and is all votebank politics in India.

"Haj subsidy is subsidy in airfare given to the Indian Haj pilgrims . The Haj pilgrims going through Haj Committee of India are offered subsidy/concession in airfare. It is paid by the Government of India to the Air India.

It is criticised on the grounds that (1) no Islamic country offers any subsidy for Haj pilgrims. Pakistan did until the Lahore High Court banned the practice and that (2) it is against Islamic theology to be obligated to anyone for performing Haj."

Haj subsidy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As only India gives Haj subsidy I quoted from wiki let me know if you want other links or just do a google.

The Brahmin establishment is master of twisting perspective.... You give discount when you get 1,00,000++ customers...............you want to call subsidy........gift.....free Voucher................does it matter.

Do you get what am saying......obiously not. Futile is discussion with one, who do not want to understand.

 

[EagleEyes]

Sir if you read the post.. you would understand that this is meant to counter the argument that India is a Hindu counterpart to Muslim Pakistan in the western media and in fact all over the world.. and I am precisely up for non-comparision of India and Pakistan..

I feel you should not jump the gun and read the post again..

Do what is said. Period.

 

[EagleEyes]

Ok this thread is going no where. Feel free to create another thread.

Thanks.

 

[BATMAN]

Human Rights group releases report on anti-Christian violence in 2007 as UN Special Rapporteur warns of rising communal divisions in India
By Michael Ireland

A report documenting the high rate of religiously-motivated violence against Christians in India during 2007 has been released by Christian Solidarity Worldwide (CSW). The report was released as the UN Special Rapporteur on freedom of religion or belief concluded her 17-day visit to India.

At a press conference in New Delhi last week, UN Rapporteur, Asma Jahangir, warned that communal divisions seem to have increased in India during the past decade and called on the Indian government to address this growing problem.

CSW’s report provides details of 142 religiously-motivated attacks on Christian targets in 2007, although it acknowledges that the real total may be much higher. It also provides a summary and analysis of the outbreak of severe communal violence, predominantly against Christians, in Orissa over the Christmas period. This episode was described by CSW partners, the All India Christian Council (AICC) as “the largest attack on the Christian community in the history of democratic India.” The highest recorded rate of separate incidents was in Karnataka state.

The report links the anti-Christian violence to an “anti-conversion culture,” rooted in the extremist Hindu nationalist ideology of Hindutva. This culture is also reflected in anti-conversion laws, currently in force in four states and on the statute books in three states. A new anti-conversion bill is due to be discussed in the Rajasthan Legislative Assembly today.

The report criticizes pervasive police inaction or complicity with regard to anti-Christian violence, especially in the states of Chhattisgarh, Karnataka and Madhya Pradesh. In some cases, police arrested the Christian victims of attacks instead of their assailants, and a number of attacks on Christians by police officers were also recorded.

The report also highlights that religious freedom for Dalits is damaged by the religious conditionality attached to eligibility for the affirmative action-style system of ‘reservations’ designed to address the social exclusion of Dalits. Those who adopt Christianity or Islam lose their eligibility for these rights.
A copy of the report can be found at: http://dynamic.csw.org.uk/article.a...

CSW Chief Executive, Mervyn Thomas, said: “India has one of the worst rates of anti-Christian violence anywhere in the world. We urge the Indian government to take seriously the warning of the UN Special Rapporteur and to address both the activities of Hindu extremists in attacking and inciting hatred against Christians, and the prevailing culture of impunity for the perpetrators of these attacks. We further call for the repeal of all anti-conversion laws and for the extension of equal rights to Dalit Christians and Muslims.”