How Pakistani-Americans are entering interfaith and interracial marriages — and making them work

[El Sidd]

Justice has no bias and its in accordance with how a Messenger should conduct his affairs and is in accordance with Quran. As compared to a tradition that seeks permission of coitus interruptus with women PoWs.

As I said one should at least read the books he / she believes in.

This is not a religious forum. Please direct yourself to a religious form and continue there.

But before you do that. Just elaborate the red marked text which you have thrown here as icing on the cake.

 

[abdulbarijan]

It's not complicated. More watchers = more demand = more supply. So who started this?

Again ... you fail to provide any reasoning as to how an individual who is merely watching a movie in the privacy of his/her own home, hidden from anybody = someone who goes out and dates / has premarital s*x ...

If I were to accept the argument of more watchers= more demand = more supply ...
One would have to ask ... Supply of what exactly? normal muslims having s*x before marriage? No! this argument would imply the supply of more people ENGAGING IN THE INDUSTRY FOR A PROFIT MOTIVE...

The original argument that you were contesting was that people who watch are as bad as people who engage in pre-marital intimate relationships ... Please bring up a credible argument for that instead of an unclear argument of market which doesn't even apply in situations like these ... Like I said ... your argument lacks clarity and specificity ... please go and think it through first

 

[Al-zakir]

A Muslim not following Quran and Sunnah is everything else but Muslim.

 

[Vazir]

Again ... you fail to provide any reasoning as to how an individual who is merely watching a movie in the privacy of his own home, hidden from anybody = someone who goes out and dates / has premarital s*x ...

If I were to accept the argument of more watchers= more demand = more supply ... Supply of what? normal muslims having s*x before marriage? No this would mean supply of more people ENGAGING IN THE INDUSTRY FOR A PROFIT MOTIVE... Your argument lacks clarity ... please go and think it through first ...

I don't know how many times do I have to repeat the exact same thing. Let's try again:
"MORE DEMAND RESULTS TO MORE PEOPLE RECORDING S*X"
It's one thing to be having it yourself. But causing others to have it so that they can earn money is even worse. I don't know how much clearer I can be on this. A smart man should've understood it by now.

A Muslim not following Quran and Sunnah is everything else but Muslim.

*scratches head*
Says who?

 

[I.R.A]

This is not a religious forum. Please direct yourself to a religious form and continue there.

But before you do that. Just elaborate the red marked text which you have thrown here as icing on the cake.

Why should I elaborate this when its in books of traditions........ read them before believing them.

The day people stop bringing Islam, ALLAH, Quran, and these traditions to debate I will go to a religious forum otherwise I don't give two hoots about anyone's advice, there is an ignore button there it's for a reason.

Have good life Sidd.

 

[El Sidd]

Why should I elaborate this when its in books of traditions........ read them before believing them.

The day people stop bringing Islam, ALLAH, Quran, and these traditions to debate I will go to a religious forum otherwise I don't give two hoots about anyone's advice, there is an ignore button there it's for a reason.

Have good life Sidd.

Thanks for a thought provoking discussion.

Wish you the same.

El Sid

 

[Al-zakir]

*scratches head*
Says who?

Allah and rasool (s.w.a.s)

 

[Vazir]

Allah and rasool (s.w.a.s)

Proof?

 

[I.R.A]

There are alot of fabricated hadith in bukhari tho.

Won't discuss it any further. Pakistanis are an insecure lot when they are shown the insulting fake traditions they label you liar, dishonest, crazy, nut, and what not ......... they should read these books, blindly believing anything just for the sake of it is hardly a trait of thinking alive people.

 

[Al-zakir]

Proof?

Quran and Hadith.

 

[Vazir]

Quran and Hadith.

A little specification, por favor.

 

[Blue Marlin]

i fail to see any problem here. i've seen a good number of pakistanis(south asains) marry other women from other ethnicities. from what i have been told muslim women cant marry a non muslim as there's a good chance the offspring(children) will be non muslim.

 

[abdulbarijan]

I don't know how many times do I have to repeat the exact same thing. Let's try again:
"MORE DEMAND RESULTS TO MORE PEOPLE RECORDING S*X"
It's one thing to be having it yourself. But causing others to have it so that they can earn money is even worse. I don't know how much clearer I can be on this. A smart man should've understood it by now.

I'm sorry that I'm not 'smart enough' to let you move the goal posts as they suit you. Your demand and supply arguments don't apply to p*rn addicts/watchers being just as culpable as normal people engaging in pre-marital intimate relationships(the subject being argued) ... which is exactly why you went with "more demand results to more people RECORDING" ... because EVEN YOU realize that your arguments don't apply to that situation ...

Just a recap of the conversation taking place before you decided to jump in with your 'smart arguments'

A typical pakistani man who watches websites everyday and watch these non muslim women to the fullest but when he sees a muslim marrying a non muslim , he feels his ego been hurt

Actually ... watching p0rn and engaging in sexual contact are two VERY DIFFERENT things

So in your opinion, a person watching the act = a person actually engaging in the act? By the way let's not start to pretend that ONLY men in our society go to such websites ...

 

[Vazir]

I'm sorry that I'm not 'smart enough' to let you move the goal posts as they suit you. Your demand and supply arguments don't apply to normal people engaging in pre-marital intimate relationships (the subject being argued) ... which is exactly why you went with "more demand results to more people RECORDING" ... which wasn't the subject of the argument in the first place ...

My demand and supply argument is very simple. Very. Bear with me, and maybe you will get smart:
If you have s*x, you sin yourself. If you watch porno, you encourage others to have s*x. How complicated is that?

 

[Verve]

If you watch porno, you encourage others to have s*x

Not unless you are paying to watch!

What are you on today?