How 'one country, two systems' ensures Hong Kong's prosperity and stability

[areal]

one-country-two-systems police has become a failure due to the core drawback of capitalism and hong kong not being the only open window of China trade. So it is time to close such test.
For Taiwan, this experiment gives China a good lesson, no need to test such policy any more. After Taiwan absorbed, only one-system policy will be applied.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Really???

I don't believe you came from HK.

Exclude the today economy success, what is your opinion about communism and Mao Zedong then?

I do not believe in communism, or any other political ideology. My favorite Chinese leader is Deng Xiaoping, not Mao.

I believe in results.

And the PRC has lifted over 800 million Chinese people out of poverty in the past three decades. That is a world record, more than anyone else on the Earth.

The ROC has zero chance of ruling China again, even they do not believe it.

As for Hong Kong, have you seen a Hong Kong passport? Read the very first line, it says "People's Republic of China".

Anyone with a brain will see that the PRC is the true representative of China. Whenever anyone in the world says "China", they mean the PRC, which is the Mainland + HK + Macau.

And my city Hong Kong is a part of the PRC, like it says on our passport.

 

[Armstrong]

I do not believe in communism, or any other political ideology.

Commrade Dragon, I find your lack of faith disturbing !

*Looks to his aide & says: Make a soup of this Chinese Dragon*

My favorite Chinese leader is Deng Xiaoping, not Mao.

Blasphemy !

Mao Tsetung is the Father of the Chinese Nation !

Deng Xiaoping was a Great Leader as well !

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Commrade Dragon, I find your lack of faith disturbing !

In fact, I think communism is stupid.

China's current system is called "Socialism with Chinese characteristics". I like it, because it works.

I have no interest in any political ideology, I only care about what works.

And the PRC's system works.

 

[Kolaps]

I do not believe in communism, or any other political ideology. My favorite Chinese leader is Deng Xiaoping, not Mao.

I believe in results.

And the PRC has lifted over 800 million Chinese people out of poverty in the past three decades. That is a world record, more than anyone else on the Earth.

The ROC has zero chance of ruling China again, even they do not believe it.

As for Hong Kong, have you seen a Hong Kong passport? Read the very first line, it says "People's Republic of China".

Anyone with a brain will see that the PRC is the true representative of China. Whenever anyone in the world says "China", they mean the PRC, which is the Mainland + HK + Macau.

Mainland is still very far to prove their credibility.

 

[kankan326]

Really???

I don't believe you came from HK.

Exclude the today economy success, what is your opinion about communism and Mao Zedong then?

Don't you think the CCP was the only political group in China history who had the gut to challenge westerners? And the red army performed much better than KMT's army when fought foreign armies?

 

[Edison Chen]

Whatever FTA exist or not, Taiwanese businessmen will find a way as usual.

Yes, I'm not citizen of PRC. You can see the flags on the left.

Care to explain why is HK economy better than Taiwan?

HK has bright future, because of China mainland, and you will be isolated by CHINA SOUTH KOREA FTA. Your product is nothing when compared with South Korean ones, but your export structure is similar, this is your tragedy, even now China has many comparable product to yours. HK is 6m people city, a world best financial center based on service industry, you are a 20m people country driven by a electronic product export, there is no comparison, I just said HK has more bright future than you guys. You are indeed an independent economy, but your political status is not recognized by most other countries as of yet, your participation and integration to the world is restricted, this is your drawbacks.

 

[Kolaps]

HK has bright future, because of China mainland, and you will be isolated by CHINA SOUTH KOREA FTA. Your product is nothing when compared with South Korean ones, but your export structure is similar, this is your tragedy, even now China has many comparable product to yours. HK is 6m people city, a world best financial center based on service industry, you are a 20m people country driven by a electronic product export, there is no comparison, I just said HK has more bright future than you guys. You are indeed an independent economy, but your political status is not recognized by most other countries as of yet, your participation and integration to the world is restricted, this is your drawbacks.

You need a magnifying glass then!

HK financial sector is not owned by local HK people. While Taiwan IT sector owned by local Taiwanese, and also the IT business network up to US and China.

Taiwan control our own fate, while HK depend on CCP and foreign bankers.


But it's true that Taiwan did a big mistake by just focusing on IT sector. I also want to add, the education mistake as well, that lead into the uncompetitive young people. That is why our salary standard is not improving, because we are not competitive.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You need a magnifying glass then!

HK financial sector is not owned by local HK people. While Taiwan IT sector owned by local Taiwanese, and also the IT business network up to US and China.

Taiwan control our own fate, while HK depend on CCP and foreign bankers.


But it's true that Taiwan did a big mistake by just focusing on IT sector. I also want to add, the education mistake as well, that lead into the uncompetitive young people. That is why our salary standard is not improving, because we are not competitive.

Unfortunately, you are living in your dream.

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

This thread mainly talks about HK and the worlds' integration. HK's economy is way more promising than your country Taiwan. Your country is screwed up by China and South Korea FTA. Mainlander, coming from a Taiwanese? It's awkward, you are not Chinese, please, find your place first.

That reminds me of one time in college. I went to dinner with my Chinese friend, his Chinese girlfriend, and my (female) Taiwanese friend. The Chinese guy and the Taiwanese girl had known each other for years and got along fine. Dinner was going great until the Chinese girl turned to the Taiwanese girl and said, "after dinner, perhaps I'll teach you to speak Mandarin properly."

I don't think I've ever seen such an ugly cat-fight.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

That reminds me of one time in college. I went to dinner with my Chinese friend, his Chinese girlfriend, and my (female) Taiwanese friend. The Chinese guy and the Taiwanese girl had known each other for years and got along fine. Dinner was going great until the Chinese girl turned to the Taiwanese girl and said, "after dinner, perhaps I'll teach you to speak Mandarin properly."

I don't think I've ever seen such an ugly cat-fight.

Wow, lol. Luckily no one has complained about my Mandarin, I started learning it young so my accent didn't turn out to be that bad. Hopefully.

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

Wow, lol. Luckily no one has complained about my Mandarin, I started learning it young so my accent didn't turn out to be that bad. Hopefully.

I've always found the dichotomy strange. When I was in college, I knew mainland Chinese, HK Chinese, Taiwanese Chinese, and even some Malaysian Chinese. Each of them were strictly divided into cliques and rarely interacted. Of course, when I was in school, HK was still firmly under British administration, so China, HK, Taiwan, and Malaysia were literally under different sovereigns. But as a non-Chinese, I always do a double-take when one ethnic Chinese says another ethnic Chinese is "not Chinese," as Edison Chen has done above.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

You need a magnifying glass then!

HK financial sector is not owned by local HK people. While Taiwan IT sector owned by local Taiwanese, and also the IT business network up to US and China.

Taiwan control our own fate, while HK depend on CCP and foreign bankers.


But it's true that Taiwan did a big mistake by just focusing on IT sector. I also want to add, the education mistake as well, that lead into the uncompetitive young people. That is why our salary standard is not improving, because we are not competitive.

Saw this magazine in Taiwan.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I've always found the dichotomy strange. When I was in college, I knew mainland Chinese, HK Chinese, Taiwanese Chinese, and even some Malaysian Chinese. Each of them were strictly divided into cliques and rarely interacted. Of course, when I was in school, HK was still firmly under British administration, so China, HK, Taiwan, and Malaysia were literally under different sovereigns. But as a non-Chinese, I always do a double-take when one ethnic Chinese say another ethnic Chinese is "not Chinese," as Edison Chen has done above.

Well, nowadays when people say "Chinese", they do not necessarily mean ethnic Chinese. What they often mean is a Chinese citizen.

For example, Lee Kuan Yew (the founder of Singapore), is ethnically Chinese. But he is in fact a Singaporean.

Similar to Gary Locke. If you asked him what he is, he would say he is an American. (Though he is also ethnic Chinese).

As a Hong Konger, I am a PRC citizen. Though I also consider Taiwanese to be Chinese nationals (though not officially citizens), since they are born and they live within the borders of China, albeit the part administered by the "Republic of China" rather than the PRC.

The ROC government still believes that it is the rightful government of ALL China, so they do the same. Since I was born on "Chinese soil", they would consider me an ROC national, and if I were to visit there I would do so using a different permit from non-Chinese, and my HKSAR passport would not be stamped.

Nationality law of the Republic of China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Republic of China's official borders encompass all of territories governed by the People's Republic of China and persons of these territories are legally nationals of the Republic of China.

I wouldn't move to Taiwan though, frankly I prefer the weather in places like Northern China.

 

[Edison Chen]

That reminds me of one time in college. I went to dinner with my Chinese friend, his Chinese girlfriend, and my (female) Taiwanese friend. The Chinese guy and the Taiwanese girl had known each other for years and got along fine. Dinner was going great until the Chinese girl turned to the Taiwanese girl and said, "after dinner, perhaps I'll teach you to speak Mandarin properly."

I don't think I've ever seen such an ugly cat-fight.

Thanks for sharing, Mandarin is Taiwan's official language, but we mainland Chinese have different accent, they are too soft, and too women. We in mainland make fun of their(Taiwan) accent.

I've always found the dichotomy strange. When I was in college, I knew mainland Chinese, HK Chinese, Taiwanese Chinese, and even some Malaysian Chinese. Each of them were strictly divided into cliques and rarely interacted. Of course, when I was in school, HK was still firmly under British administration, so China, HK, Taiwan, and Malaysia were literally under different sovereigns. But as a non-Chinese, I always do a double-take when one ethnic Chinese says another ethnic Chinese is "not Chinese," as Edison Chen has done above.

There is always some reason. Some Taiwanese in the US separate themselves with us mainland Chinese, they thought they are better than us, they have democracy, they don't want to be grouped together with us, especially the younger ones, the elders have more feeling to mainland China. Even the Taiwanese guys in the TV show says "Chinese can't even afford tea boiled eggs" "Chinese can't afford dumplings" I've met a Taiwan girl in the US before, she feels very uncomfortable when Americans "mistakenly" thought I and her are both Chinese, and she intermediately made a clarification that she is not. LOL.