How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat

[Narashima]

not once in 67 years of india's existence has the indian army attacked camps of rss/bajrang-dal/ram-sena... most indian members of pdf do not acknowledge this... instead, they support the indian government operations against the socialist naxalites... 100,000+ indian government paramilitary/military/police/militia against 5,000+ naxalites... and what do the naxalites want?? an india which has justice and progress, brought through socialism... yet, the indian government is murdering them... shame on most indian members.

The real problem lies in the religion. Indian army must destory all the existing temples in India and erect mosque instead.

 

[jamahir]

The real problem lies in the religion. Indian army must destory all the existing temples in India and erect mosque instead.

islam doesn't need mosques... makkah and madinah is enough... this i have said months ago, when i was new member... the next imaam of all muslims must take care of this.

 

[Narashima]

islam doesn't need mosques... makkah and madinah is enough... this i have said months ago, when i was new member... the next imaam of all muslims must take care of this.

more mosques means more people will accept the truth. It will definitely help in expanding socialist ideology as it goes hand in hand with islam. You can destroy mosques once everybody becomes muslim.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Even our muslims have brushed aside the past and are looking towards the future.. Its a sad incident, shamefull, perhaps in the history of india.
And now I would be really glad if Pakistanis take effort to protect their shias, where the total no of them killed outnumber 2002 riots killings (both muslims and hindus got killed) by large numbers.

time to move on. Justice had been served.

 

[Dubious]

Just a addition of 'N' no biggie?

Is that how you think about your religion

Chest beating Hindus who are being killed and persecuted for being a Kaffir. I must complement you for assigning a nice adjective to people who are persecuted.

You actually made an ape jump on the whole conversation...

There was 1 Indian who was first stating that there is no distinction in Hinduism between believer and non Believer than another one stated ASTIK and NASTIK ...so believer and non believer....even @Chinese-Dragon , @KingMamba and a few others got confused so either clarify the lie that there is no difference or admit there is a difference!

We havent even got to the prosecution point...

 

[Dubious]

That is why their former CM or our present PM initiated large scale development plans.
Godhra station is now a high tech station.

Yes I accepted the reply of 1 of your mates and left the forum but new comer Indians want to keep bringing it up!

 

[Dubious]

You can be atheist but Hinduism doesn't differentiate based on your individual belief... Hinduism emphasis on defending Dharma through righteous karma(Plz don't equate this to riots now)......
Though Hinduism a very different debate which is not the topic at hand......

Neither does Islam....The point someone carried here was that we label people and I was showing you guys too....

 

[jamahir]

in expanding socialist ideology as it goes hand in hand with islam.

it is true that islam and teachings of jesus were early socialism but i am sorry, your user-name is making me wonder about the credibility of your posts... so, please tell me of your ideological preferences...

 

[Narashima]

You actually made an ape jump on the whole conversation...

There was 1 Indian who was first stating that there is no distinction in Hinduism between believer and non Believer than another one stated ASTIK and NASTIK ...so believer and non believer....even @Chinese-Dragon , @KingMamba and a few others got confused so either clarify the lie that there is no difference or admit there is a difference!

We havent even got to the prosecution point...

It's different than abrahamic religion.

 

[Narashima]

it is true that islam and teachings of jesus were early socialism but i am sorry, your user-name is making me wonder about the credibility of your posts... so, please tell me of your ideological preferences...

I like socialists.
They are unbiased and doesn't act like a two faced snakes. some of them do but not most of them.

 

[SamantK]

You actually made an ape jump on the whole conversation...

There was 1 Indian who was first stating that there is no distinction in Hinduism between believer and non Believer than another one stated ASTIK and NASTIK ...so believer and non believer....even @Chinese-Dragon , @KingMamba and a few others got confused so either clarify the lie that there is no difference or admit there is a difference!

We havent even got to the prosecution point...

As if you did not

Chest beating hindus would be happy to get away from Pakistan.

Why should one clarify to a Muslim who believes that one should follow strict set of rules! It's beneath you to understand pagans

 

[Dubious]

You are trying to understand or insists upon learning about God n other concept of Hinduism as per your convenient belief (Comparing with Islam).... Thread is selectively highlights(Post Godhra) one side of story(Though killings is also condemnable beyond any doubt) but conveniently skipping roots(Godhra train burning) is absurd approach too.....
Akheilos you are going off topic thread is not about Insight of Hinduism better open a different thread....

I am trying to equate a definition that is preset with that one is trying to squeeze Hinduism in:

A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.

In religious terms, divinity is the state of things that come from a supernatural power or deity, such as a god, or spirit beings, and are therefore regarded as sacred and holy.

Hence when you say divine laws you dont change them and keep calling them divine coz once a comma, full stop or even an explanation mark has been added or removed (which changes the meaning of some words) by a human it is no longer divine

And these are not even my own made definitions!

Thread is about post Godhra incident because if Muslims did do the Godhra incident and are frowned upon then Hindus who did the Gujarat riots went to that level, killing more people and SHOULD ALSO be frowned upon....Not 1 Indian has condemned it! In fact from all the posts its like Muslims did it and Hindus attacked 2x harder so it is justifiable? I even quoted one person going on and on about how Justice was served!

As for going off topic about HInduism....that is because some here started comparing the 2 religions esp with the word Kafir when you guys have Nastik....So my question was what difference do you guys see?

First Muslims kill and Hindus kill = same killing ...doesnt mean its right! If you manage to spew hatred against one why spare the poison against the other? BOTH groups did the same KILLING!

Likewise Both Hinduism and Muslims have believers and non beleivers ( kafir/ Nastik )
So whoever is making a distinction either got it very wrong or is blind to see there isnt any....

Someone does ABC you do ABC too then claim you are different is a little too much pride and ego!

 

[Dubious]

As if you did not

Chest beating hindus would be happy to get away from Pakistan.

Well good for them ...the topic is India

 

[SarthakGanguly]

yes you lied and got caught red handed,
Please dont paint all hindus with the same brush.There are many ethical hindus I came across. keep that slur to yourself.
later gator.

No. We are all like this. How otherwise would be vote the then CM of Gujarat as the Prime Minister?

let it be said once for all about the godhra train-burning incident ( gujarat 2002 )...

1. it was an accident.

2. the train's passengers were not innocents returning from a picnic... this was a "special" train returning from ayodhya where a decade ago, maddened crowds had demolished babri mosque and initiated riots in india... i am not even talking of the threats the crowds had issued to the female journalists covering the mosque demolishing... the train's passengers were "pilgrims" who had gone to ayodhya to perform rituals at the temple built on the site of the demolished mosque... so, the passengers were indirect criminals, including the females.

3. at godhra train station, during this train's short halt, some of these hinduvaadi passengers had misbehaved with a muslim lady which led to anger among godhra's muslims.

4. the supposed attack on the train, by the muslim crowd, happened when the train was moving and the railway tracks were quite high, sitting on earthern bund.

5. the fire that burnt the train started on the inside... it is very possible that these hinduvaadi passenger families were carrying fuel for cooking food within the train during the long journey from ayodhya.

6. some of the above points were found during when laloo prasad yadav was railway minister later.

i ask the pdf members... why didn't nato invade india in 2002 because real massacre had happened against muslims in gujarat, organized and helped by the state government there... nato invaded libya and syria on fake charges of human rights violations... why is nato and usa government shaking hands with modi when he should have been tried in the international criminal court...

@levina - There might still be time. With jamahir's help along with the world powers India should be invaded, de-Hinduised (extermination/conversion/enslaved). @DRAY We need you support too.

LOL, why are you defaming your religious brethren.

It's considered true. Tag syedali and get some authentic videos to know about Hindus.

india and democracy?? surely, you are joking... and of that billion+ in this great grand republic, humanity doesn't need 850 million males...

850 million? Ok you mean the Hindus only. Man you are great. The number is around 950 million now. Eliminating them will take some time though.

 

[Narashima]

I am trying to equate a definition that is preset with that one is trying to squeeze Hinduism in:

A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.

In religious terms, divinity is the state of things that come from a supernatural power or deity, such as a god, or spirit beings, and are therefore regarded as sacred and holy.

Hence when you say divine laws you dont change them and keep calling them divine coz once a comma, full stop or even an explanation mark has been added or removed (which changes the meaning of some words) by a human it is no longer divine

And these are not even my own made definitions!

Thread is about post Godhra incident because if Muslims did do the Godhra incident and are frowned upon then Hindus who did the Gujarat riots went to that level, killing more people and SHOULD ALSO be frowned upon....Not 1 Indian has condemned it! In fact from all the posts its like Muslims did it and Hindus attacked 2x harder so it is justifiable? I even quoted one person going on and on about how Justice was served!

As for going off topic about HInduism....that is because some here started comparing the 2 religions esp with the word Kafir when you guys have Nastik....So my question was what difference do you guys see?

First Muslims kill and Hindus kill = same killing ...doesnt mean its right! If you manage to spew hatred against one why spare the poison against the other? BOTH groups did the same KILLING!

Likewise Both Hinduism and Muslims have believers and non beleivers ( kafir/ Nastik )
So whoever is making a distinction either got it very wrong or is blind to see there isnt any....

Someone does ABC you do ABC too then claim you are different is a little too much pride and ego!

may be this will help you.
nastik=atheist
so muslims are not nastik.