How Much China Is Investing In Pak, Just Look At Karachi

[maximuswarrior]

You are naive to feel that way, in todays world everyone is going to develop, someone will develop slowly other might develop fast. What matters is at what cost this developments comes.



No doubt there are benefits of the process, what matters is how much pie is served to you and whats the cost.
Pakistan had much better opportunity to develop had it not messed up after 80s with both US and China on its side and India almost going bankrupt in 90's and USSR breaking down. But then your choices to support terrorism led to where you are our choices to support growth and development led to where we are.

Don't lecture us on naivety. You are the same Indians who were not so long ago taunting the relationship between Pakistan and China as economically weak and one sided. Today, China has invested tens of billions of dollars and now you are fabricating new lame excuses. The development in Pakistan will come at a fantastic cost. Pakistan and China have worked out all the economics and modalities for decades. CPEC didn't fall from the sky. Our leaders and economists aren't sleeping and don't need a lecture by some freakin' ignorant Indian.

India supports terrorism till this day in Pakistan. The Lahore attack is the latest example. Don't lecture us on supporting terrorism. You have been in denial about Pakistan's existence since the partition. We understand the pain you endure on a daily basis. Deal with it.

The US can go to hell because under Trump it is on decline anyway. Pakistan and China are going to make great inroads with CPEC. There is a reason why Indians are mass panicking. Just look at the ridiculous statements of your military and civilian leaders about CPEC. They are in a crazy fix. They know the potential and India is going to be left out.

Whilst the world is welcomed to be part in the CPEC and the one belt one road initiative India will be a spectator from the sideline. Your entire post reeks with self pity and denial.

U.K., Romania Keen To Join Pakistan And China’s CPEC

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/01/u-k-romania-join-pakistan-china-cpec/

Boris wants UK firms part of CPEC activities

http://www.dawn.com/news/1298747

CPEC: The U.K., Russia, France Eager to Join the Project

Iran Ready to Join China-Pakistan Economic Corridor

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13951108000849

Kazakhstan shows willingness to join CPEC project

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/14270-kazakhstan-shows-willingness-to-join-cpec-project

Iran, Saudi Arabia eager to join CPEC

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1191513/iran-saudi-arabia-eager-join-cpec/

Netherlands interested in joining CPEC

http://www.cpecinfo.com/cpec-news-detail?id=OTc4

I could post another hundred sources.

You are arrogant. No wonder you are desperate to make your case on a Pakistani forum, but in reality you have no case.

 

[Viny]

We suck at poverty figures yet it is not my nation that has between 30-40% of the ENTIRE Earth's most severely malnourished, deformed and extreme poor but yours:

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/India-has-40-of-worlds-malnourished-Expert/articleshow/20840897.cms


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...591/India-accused-of-poverty-smokescreen.html

https://www.chinasmack.com/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions

Your hypocrisy and delusions are hilarious.

Whatever your kind says or does, does not change the facts. indian kind also vehemently claimed that Pakistan would NEVER EVER become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance yet the reality is that Pakistan is WAY more advanced than it publicly admits to and is capable of producing MIRVs, SLCMs & thermonuclear weapons. Ever wondered why india was so powerless to attack Pakistan militarily after mumbai 2008? Even though you are more than 7x bigger than us and have abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege? Because your military high command are fully aware.of our REAL capabilities

Somehow you remind me of a parrot, who keeps repeating same junk.

Fact is you are still stuck at poverty figures, when i asked to you provide details on advance technology based industry that you have.

Do you have comprehension problem?
I already said to you that you are stuck at providing poverty figures and you still repeat the same.

Come up with details about advancement in ancillary industries that could expertise in nano technology or metallurgy or advance robotics etc to support your called advanced defense system capabilities.


Finally get this into your mind, no can even stop Nigeria or Ethopia for that matter from development, some will develop slow some will develop fast, its the path they chose to develop will determine that. So Pakistan going nuclear is path which Pakistan decided to walk, sooner or later it reached it and for sure it will reach other ambitions too. But at what cost and when is the what would define the future of Pakistan.

 

[Awan68]

Don't lecture us on naivety. You are the same Indians who were not so long ago taunting the relationship between Pakistan and China as economically weak and one sided. Today, China has invested tens of billions of dollars and now you are fabricating new lame excuses. The development in Pakistan will come at a fantastic cost. Pakistan and China have worked out all the economics and modalities for decades. CPEC didn't fall from the sky. Our leaders and economists aren't sleeping and don't need a lecture by some freakin' ignorant Indian.

India supports terrorism till this day in Pakistan. The Lahore attack is the latest example. Don't lecture us on supporting terrorism. You have been in denial about Pakistan's existence since the partition. We understand the pain you endure on a daily basis. Deal with it.

The US can go to hell because under Trump it is on decline anyway. Pakistan and China are going to make great inroads with CPEC. There is a reason why Indians are mass panicking. Just look at the ridiculous statements of your military and civilian leaders about CPEC. They are in a crazy fix. They know the potential and India is going to be left out.

Whilst the world is welcomed to be part in the CPEC and the one belt one road initiative India will be a spectator from the sideline. Your entire post reeks with self pity and denial.

U.K., Romania Keen To Join Pakistan And China’s CPEC

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/01/u-k-romania-join-pakistan-china-cpec/

Boris wants UK firms part of CPEC activities

http://www.dawn.com/news/1298747

CPEC: The U.K., Russia, France Eager to Join the Project

Iran Ready to Join China-Pakistan Economic Corridor

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13951108000849

Kazakhstan shows willingness to join CPEC project

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/14270-kazakhstan-shows-willingness-to-join-cpec-project

Iran, Saudi Arabia eager to join CPEC

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1191513/iran-saudi-arabia-eager-join-cpec/

Netherlands interested in joining CPEC

http://www.cpecinfo.com/cpec-news-detail?id=OTc4

I could post another hundred sources.

Hey dont bother to argue with these leeches, they dont want contructive arguments they just r buthurt and troll..

 

[maximuswarrior]

Hey dont bother to argue with these leeches, they dont want contructive arguments they just r buthurt and troll..

Let me burst some bubbles, bro. These Indians are under greats illusions. They have been gobsmacked by CPEC and Gwadar. Look at them constantly on the defensive. They have been left red faced and never saw this one coming. Pakistan and China have checkmated these imbeciles and they cannot get over it. India had this fetish and great desire to isolate Pakistan from the world stage. CPEC has poured some ice cold water over this wish.

India's Modi Is Playing the Wrong Game against China and Pakistan

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/indias-modi-playing-the-wrong-game-against-china-pakistan-17411

Read this good article to get an understanding how much pain India is experiencing by CPEC.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Somehow you remind me of a parrot, who keeps repeating same junk.


Do you have comprehension problem?
I already said to you that you are stuck at providing poverty figures and you still repeat the same.

Come up with details about advancement in ancillary industries that could expertise in nano technology or metallurgy or advance robotics etc to support your called advanced defense system capabilities.


Finally get this into your mind, no can even stop Nigeria or Ethopia for that matter from development, some will develop slow some will develop fast, its the path they chose to develop will determine that. So Pakistan going nuclear is path which Pakistan decided to walk, sooner or later it reached it and for sure it will reach other ambitions too. But at what cost and when is the what would define the future of Pakistan.

Parrot????????........you can't even refute any of the facts I have given so you have to resort to use weak arguments and diversions......

I don't even know why you are here. You have far more pressing problems to worry about than the development of Pakistan. You concentrate on them, we will worry about Pakistan. At the end of the day, you are just a foreigner that has absolutely NOTHING in common with us and knows nothing about us.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Parrot????????........you can't even refute any of the facts I have given so you have to resort to use weak arguments and diversions......

I don't even know why you are here. You have far more pressing problems to worry about than the development of Pakistan. You concentrate on them, we will worry about Pakistan. At the end of the day, you are just a foreigner that has absolutely NOTHING in common with us and knows nothing about us.

LOL it is ridiculous funny how overly concerned Indians are about CPEC and Pakistan. Not a single thread on CPEC is left alone by the Indians. These Indians are in considerable pain.

 

[Viny]

Don't lecture us on naivety. You are the same Indians who were not so long ago taunting the relationship between Pakistan and China as weak. Today, China has invested tens of billions of dollars and now you are inventing other excuses. The development in Pakistan will come at a fantastic cost. Our leaders and economists aren't sleeping and don't need a lecture by some freakin' Indian.

I am not sure if you are aware of the some basic facts.
China supports all those countries that doesn't have much support from western world. Be it Pakistan or be it North Korea. Its in China's interest as this gives them leverage to gain better valuations for there investments. On top of that it also helps directly for China to present a challenge to neighboring developed/developing country which is or might create competition for China in world market.

India supports terrorism till this day in Pakistan. The Lahore attack is the latest example. Don't lecture us on supporting terrorism.

Then why are you unable to present credible evidences to international bodies.
Until then, I would suggest look inside your house for termites first.

The US can go to hell because under Trump it is on the decline anyway. Pakistan and China are going to make great inroads with CPEC. There is a reason why Indians are panicking. Just look at the ridicolous statements of your leaders about CPEC. They are in a fix. They know the potential and India is going to be left out.

Whilst the world is welcomed to be part in the CPEC and one belt one read initiative India will be a spectator from the sideline. Your entire post reeks with self pity and denial.

For you CPEC may the world's best thing to happen, but globally there are many more projects that are much bigger than that. So stop day dreaming about it. Just for your information the CPEC is $46billion project, where as Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor in $90billion project and the Masjid Al-Haram at Mecca is $100bn project yet no one is making so much hue and cry as you kids for CPEC....

Parrot????????........you can't even refute any of the facts I have given so you have to resort to use weak arguments and diversions......

I don't even know why you are here. You have far more pressing problems to worry about than the development of Pakistan. You concentrate on them, we will worry about Pakistan. At the end of the day, you are just a foreigner that has absolutely NOTHING in common with us and knows nothing about us.

Let me remind you topic was China's investment and how its changing Pakistan, I asked about details on advancement in industrialization due to this and you came up with poverty figures of India. So try to figure out who has to resort to use of weak arguments and diversions.?

 

[Awan68]

I am not sure if you are aware of the some basic facts.
China supports all those countries that doesn't have much support from western world. Be it Pakistan or be it North Korea. Its in China's interest as this gives them leverage to gain better valuations for there investments. On top of that it also helps directly for China to present a challenge to neighboring developed/developing country which is or might create competition for China in world market.



Then why are you unable to present credible evidences to international bodies.
Until then, I would suggest look inside your house for termites first.



For you CPEC may the world's best thing to happen, but globally there are many more projects that are much bigger than that. So stop day dreaming about it. Just for your information the CPEC is $46billion project, where as Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor in $90billion project and the Masjid Al-Haram at Mecca is $100bn project yet no one is making so much hue and cry as you kids for CPEC....

Because none of the above projects hold strategic importance and none involve the vision to integrate all of asia with some european coountries to boot, none of the above projects will tap into the monster we call the chinese trade, because this project will place pakistan at the world centre, chinese trade and oil will pass through here, that gives us the power the Us navy has previously in the indian ocean when they could easily block chinese oil now they cant but okay everone else is shit its just india that is great, china pakistan Us russia all are kids its india that the great suppa pawa with a toilel problem, happy now bollywood boy, isnt that what u were here for, now bugg off...

 

[maximuswarrior]

I am not sure if you are aware of the some basic facts.
China supports all those countries that doesn't have much support from western world. Be it Pakistan or be it North Korea. Its in China's interest as this gives them leverage to gain better valuations for there investments. On top of that it also helps directly for China to present a challenge to neighboring developed/developing country which is or might create competition for China in world market.



Then why are you unable to present credible evidences to international bodies.
Until then, I would suggest look inside your house for termites first.



For you CPEC may the world's best thing to happen, but globally there are many more projects that are much bigger than that. So stop day dreaming about it. Just for your information the CPEC is $46billion project, where as Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor in $90billion project and the Masjid Al-Haram at Mecca is $100bn project yet no one is making so much hue and cry as you kids for CPEC....

LOL That's just your wishful thinking stupid Indian. Just because you live in your own defined realm doesn't mean this amounts to reality.

The world is very eager to join Chinese projects. Especially given that the US is now retreating and receding on the world stage. Every single country in the world including major Western US allies are today lining up to have free trade pact agreements with China. You must be living in a cave to deny this. So much for isolation. As for Pakistan, I have posted a dozen links to prove that the world wants to join CPEC and other Chinese joint ventures. CPEC is just one part of the one belt one road initiative. China is doling out billions of dollars to complete the entire project. You cannot even comprehend how the one belt one road project will work out once it is complete. Your childish denial is just more proof that you are in a fix. You need some burnol.

You are ignorant and uninformed. Pakistan has made substantial progress in exposing Indian terrorism inside Pakistan. Pakistan continues to highlight Indian atrocities and terror on the world stage. We know how much progress India has made after it's so-called Mumbai 9/11 LOL All you could do is mount a fake surgical strike that the world couldn't care about and has already forgotten.

Who the hell is talking about other projects in the world? What relevance does this have with this topic? Why are you diverting the topic by bringing in lousy examples? It is because you have lost the argument. Admit it. You are in a complete fix regarding CPEC. You are jealous and red faced for being sidelined. The fact that you are continuously arguing about CPEC goes to show how obsessed your nation is with this project. If this project means nothing, why even participate in this thread? Why does your killer PM and military officials keep ranting about CPEC if it is so unimportant? Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Viny]

Because none of the above projects hold strategic importance and none involve the vision to integrate all of asia with some european coountries to boot, none of the above projects will tap into the monster we call the chinese trade, because this project will place pakistan at the world centre, chinese trade and oil will pass through here, that gives us the power the Us navy has previously in the indian ocean when they could easily block chinese oil now they cant but okay everone else is shit its just india that is great, china pakistan Us russia all are kids its india that the great suppa pawa with a toilel problem, happy now bollywood boy, isnt that what u were here for, now bugg off...

Yes the project indeed hold strategic importance and it will give China a second route to connect to middle east, as well as some neighboring countries too. I am not sure if you know, but China has bigger focus on the new Silk Route plan that they are working on for trade and connectivity and CPEC is not part of it, probably it could as feeder channel. I am not sure if much of OIL will pass through that as waterways are generally much cheaper for bulk transportation. But I agree it gives a second front to connect with middle east.

LOL That's just your wishful thinking stupid Indian. Just because you live in your own defined realm doesn't mean this amounts to reality.

The world is very eager to join Chinese projects. Especially given that the US is now retreating and receding on the world stage. Every single country in the world including major Western US allies are today lining up to have free trade pact agreements with China. You must be living in a cave to deny this. So much for isolation. As for Pakistan, I have posted a dozen links to prove that the world wants to join CPEC and other Chinese joint ventures. CPEC is just one part of the one belt one road initiative. China is doling out billions of dollars to complete the entire project. You cannot even comprehend how the one belt one road project will work out once it is complete. Your childish denial is just more proof that you are in a fix. You need some burnol.

You are ignorant and uninformed. Pakistan has made substantial progress in exposing Indian terrorism inside Pakistan. Pakistan continues to highlight Indian atrocities and terror on the world stage. We know how much progress India has made after it's so-called Mumbai 9/11 LOL All you could do is mount a fake surgical strike that the world couldn't care about and has already forgotten.

Who the hell is talking about other projects in the world? What relevance does this have with this topic? Why are you diverting the topic by bringing in lousy examples? It is because you have lost the argument. Admit it. You are in a complete fix regarding CPEC. You are jealous and red faced for being sidelined. The fact that you are continuously arguing about CPEC goes to show how obsessed your nation is with this project. If this project means nothing, why even participate in this thread? Why does your killer PM and military officials keep ranting about CPEC if it is so unimportant? Stop embarrassing yourself.

Just want to say to you that for your world it might be eager to join CPEC, the real world has over 200 countries.
And for them there are plenty of routes to reach China, CPEC is not the only gateway to reach china. So just get over it...

Neither I am jealous, nor i feel sidelined in my opening post itself, i said if CPEC even meets its 50% objective it will create and opportunity for Pakistan economy to turnarround and catch up with growing world. Its whats the cost that Pakistan pays for it will decide how well it went for Pakistan in long term.

Why would I be obsessed jealous about a project thats has nothing for me at this point of time?
If and when relationships improve and if there is need for us to use the the trade route thats part of CPEC, we will discuss with Pakistan, we have been using trade routes via Pakistan to supply products to Afghanistan, so I am not sure where did India lose? If you think that Indian companies didnt got a pie in various projects that are coming up in Pakistan, then be assured given the relationships none of Indian companies would have ever wanted to invest a penny.

As far as India and its government is concern, they have all rights to raise the issue of CPEC because the project passes through Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Don't lecture us on naivety. You are the same Indians who were not so long ago taunting the relationship between Pakistan and China as economically weak and one sided. Today, China has invested tens of billions of dollars and now you are fabricating new lame excuses. The development in Pakistan will come at a fantastic cost. Pakistan and China have worked out all the economics and modalities for decades. CPEC didn't fall from the sky. Our leaders and economists aren't sleeping and don't need a lecture by some freakin' ignorant Indian.

India supports terrorism till this day in Pakistan. The Lahore attack is the latest example. Don't lecture us on supporting terrorism. You have been in denial about Pakistan's existence since the partition. We understand the pain you endure on a daily basis. Deal with it.

The US can go to hell because under Trump it is on decline anyway. Pakistan and China are going to make great inroads with CPEC. There is a reason why Indians are mass panicking. Just look at the ridiculous statements of your military and civilian leaders about CPEC. They are in a crazy fix. They know the potential and India is going to be left out.

Whilst the world is welcomed to be part in the CPEC and the one belt one road initiative India will be a spectator from the sideline. Your entire post reeks with self pity and denial.

U.K., Romania Keen To Join Pakistan And China’s CPEC

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/01/u-k-romania-join-pakistan-china-cpec/

Boris wants UK firms part of CPEC activities

http://www.dawn.com/news/1298747

CPEC: The U.K., Russia, France Eager to Join the Project

Iran Ready to Join China-Pakistan Economic Corridor

http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13951108000849

Kazakhstan shows willingness to join CPEC project

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/14270-kazakhstan-shows-willingness-to-join-cpec-project

Iran, Saudi Arabia eager to join CPEC

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1191513/iran-saudi-arabia-eager-join-cpec/

Netherlands interested in joining CPEC

http://www.cpecinfo.com/cpec-news-detail?id=OTc4

I could post another hundred sources.

You are arrogant. No wonder you are desperate to make your case on a Pakistani forum, but in reality you have no case.

Indeed these are exciting times for Pakistan. So many countries want to join CPEC.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I am not sure if you are aware of the some basic facts.
China supports all those countries that doesn't have much support from western world. Be it Pakistan or be it North Korea. Its in China's interest as this gives them leverage to gain better valuations for there investments. On top of that it also helps directly for China to present a challenge to neighboring developed/developing country which is or might create competition for China in world market.



Then why are you unable to present credible evidences to international bodies.
Until then, I would suggest look inside your house for termites first.



For you CPEC may the world's best thing to happen, but globally there are many more projects that are much bigger than that. So stop day dreaming about it. Just for your information the CPEC is $46billion project, where as Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor in $90billion project and the Masjid Al-Haram at Mecca is $100bn project yet no one is making so much hue and cry as you kids for CPEC....



Let me remind you topic was China's investment and how its changing Pakistan, I asked about details on advancement in industrialization due to this and you came up with poverty figures of India. So try to figure out who has to resort to use of weak arguments and diversions.?

Don't worry about the facts and figures. Or how CPEC is advancing Pakistan's industries and other sectors. The funding, facts and figures are very sound and come from the same source that enabled Pakistan to become a nuclear weapons state which your kind claimed it was impossible to do so......

LOL it is ridiculous funny how overly concerned Indians are about CPEC and Pakistan. Not a single thread on CPEC is left alone by the Indians. These Indians are in considerable pain.

Our enemies have been SEVERELY rattled by our successful initiation of CPEC, MIRV & SLCM tests. Especially when they stated that they would isolate us from the rest of the world and hinted at wanting to destroy us. That has now become COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE to achieve. Much to their dismay, anguish, fear and bitterness......

 

[MultaniGuy]

Don't worry about the facts and figures. Or how CPEC is advancing Pakistan's industries and other sectors. The funding, facts and figures are very sound and come from the same source that enable Pakistan to become a nuclear weapons state which your kind claimed it was impossible to do so......




Our enemies have been SEVERELY rattled by our successful initiation of CPEC, MIRV tests & SLCM tests. Especially when they stated that they would isolate us from the rest of the world and hinted at wanting to destroy us. That has now become COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE to achieve. Much to their dismay, anguish, fear and bitterness......

Good point. CPEC will develop Pakistan.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Don't worry about the facts and figures. Or how CPEC is advancing Pakistan's industries and other sectors. The funding, facts and figures are very sound and come from the same source that enable Pakistan to become a nuclear weapons state which your kind claimed it was impossible to do so......




Our enemies have been SEVERELY rattled by our successful initiation of CPEC, MIRV tests & SLCM tests. Especially when they stated that they would isolate us from the rest of the world and hinted at wanting to destroy us. That has now become COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE to achieve. Much to their dismay, anguish, fear and bitterness......

I'm enjoying every moment how Indians are beset by rage. Even on this forum we see these Indians quarrel and try to prove how right they are. LOL

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I'm enjoying every moment how Indians are beset by rage. Even on this forum we see these Indians quarrel and try to prove how right they are. LOL

Nothing new. They were doing exactly the same when we become a nuclear weapons state. Especially since they all claimed that it was impossible for Pakistan to ever become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance.........lol....

Good point. CPEC will develop Pakistan.

It already is.........

Yes the project indeed hold strategic importance and it will give China a second route to connect to middle east, as well as some neighboring countries too. I am not sure if you know, but China has bigger focus on the new Silk Route plan that they are working on for trade and connectivity and CPEC is not part of it, probably it could as feeder channel. I am not sure if much of OIL will pass through that as waterways are generally much cheaper for bulk transportation. But I agree it gives a second front to connect with middle east.



Just want to say to you that for your world it might be eager to join CPEC, the real world has over 200 countries.
And for them there are plenty of routes to reach China, CPEC is not the only gateway to reach china. So just get over it...

Neither I am jealous, nor i feel sidelined in my opening post itself, i said if CPEC even meets its 50% objective it will create and opportunity for Pakistan economy to turnarround and catch up with growing world. Its whats the cost that Pakistan pays for it will decide how well it went for Pakistan in long term.

Why would I be obsessed jealous about a project thats has nothing for me at this point of time?
If and when relationships improve and if there is need for us to use the the trade route thats part of CPEC, we will discuss with Pakistan, we have been using trade routes via Pakistan to supply products to Afghanistan, so I am not sure where did India lose? If you think that Indian companies didnt got a pie in various projects that are coming up in Pakistan, then be assured given the relationships none of Indian companies would have ever wanted to invest a penny.

As far as India and its government is concern, they have all rights to raise the issue of CPEC because the project passes through Pakistan Occupied Kashmir.

More ignorance. Something which you fail to understand is that CPEC & Gwadar helps China bypass the straights of Mallacca which the Americans, Japanese and others could use to choke and cut off China's supply and energy routes completely. That has immense invaluable strategic importance for China that cannot be measured. For that reason alone it is important for China that Pakistan becomes a major global economy and military power. It is also the reason why China is spending way more billions on CPEC than they publicly admit too.