How many wars has Pakistan won?

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Than how do you explain Bangladesh? Its a well known fact RAW trained Mukthi Bahini. Siachen was also an operation organized by RAW that was successful. The only time ISI outsmarted RAW was kargil, and even PAk lost all the peaks they occupied.

BTW, the only reason the Sril Lankan ARmy defeated LTTE was because of Indian support.

How much money do you get per post here from BJP?

You feel the need to reply to every post.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

How much money do you get per post here from BJP?

You feel the need to reply to every post.

It is from an altruistic tendency in me to provide free education to misguided souls like you.

 

[Hamza913]

That's unfortunate. I thought I was pretty clear. Oh well.

Hahaha, I don't think you're using that word properly.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

It is from an altruistic tendency in me to provide free education to misguided souls like you.

More like an obsessive personality disorder, which most of your race are afflicted with.

 

[Hamza913]

More like an obsessive personality disorder, which most of your race are afflicted with.

Come on, this guy's nice, don't be rude to him.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Hahaha, I don't think you're using that word properly.

Its quite funny when anti-Muslim posters try to use our lexicon.

Come on, this guy's nice, don't be rude to him.

LOL, first Afrazul and now this Cobra.

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who insults my country.

 

[Hamza913]

LOL, first Afrazul and now this Cobra.

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who insults my country.

But neither one of them insulted Pakistan in the posts you replied to attacking them. They just had different opinions.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Its quite funny when anti-Muslim posters try to use our lexicon.



LOL, first Afrazul and now this Cobra.

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who insults my country.

When did I insult your country? I made it clear I respect all the Pakistani soldiers who fought for their country. You on the other hand go out of the way to insult India even when it is not warrented.

 

[Finer]

Win/loss come and go in cycles. The important staffs are "will to fight" and "never say die" mindsets...

That kind of mindset creates dominance for centuries. All it takes one weak moment of cowardice to collapse the greater empire. Well Said!!!

 

[dexter]

Here is a picture of a Pakistani tank during the Kashmir War:

A little correction: It is a French biult AMX-13 light tank used by Indian Army during 1965 war and captured in battle of Chawinda.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

But neither one of them insulted Pakistan in the posts you replied to attacking them. They just had different opinions.

I'm fine with what you said about Afrazul. He is a Muslim brother, even if his political views are anti-Pakistan. He should be more sensitive when it comes to insulting the sensibilities of Pakistanis and our martyrs.

Cobra is a Hindutva snake and constantly insulting Pakistan in every place. I don't have any sympathy for this kind of personality.

Brother, I respect you, but I am free to reply how I choose fit.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

1947 - Irrelevant, we still gained land, so therefore yes we won.

1965 - Incorrect, Hindustan captured less land, and persistently lied about how much land Pakistan captured (as my OP shows). And as said before, Grand Slam occurred before the war started.

1971 - That's all it was, a glorified colony. The more wealthy/religious people from East Pakistan along with the Urdu speakers got to join us, but everyone else was simply under our boot for over 20 years (not the first time West Pakistanis ruled over the area, the Punjabi General Shahbaz Khan Kamboh did the same under the Mughal Empire).

1999 - It is the dominating peak in the area, as per even the Hindustani army, and it's not the only peak Pakistan has kept from the Kargil War. The Hindustani military's claim of it being from the Pakistani side of the LOC is laughably wrong propaganda, because if that were the case, why did they so desperately try to take it back?



Leave this one be, he's pretty decent.

Assalamualaikum bhai.

Victors in wars are determined by meeting of objectives.

In 1947 Pakistan's objective was to gain Jammu and Kashmir.
In 1965 Pakistan's objective was to gain Kashmir by taking Akhnoor.
1999 - Peak 5353 is still marked on the LoC. India mounted attacks even on peaks that were beyond LoC. Peaks that are on our side were all cleared. PA maintains only an OP there. Because it's prolonged defense is not possible.

I'm fine with what you said about Afrazul. He is a Muslim brother, even if his political views are anti-Pakistan. He should be more sensitive when it comes to insulting the sensibilities of Pakistanis and our martyrs.

Cobra is a Hindutva snake and constantly insulting Pakistan in every place. I don't have any sympathy for this kind of personality.

Brother, I respect you, but I am free to reply how I choose fit.

My political views are also not anti Pakistan.
I just brutally speak facts.
Our family voted for ML. My grandfather settled in East Pakistan and joined the Ansars.
After the war he had to take refuge in India.

 

[Hamza913]

Assalamualaikum bhai.

Victors in wars are determined by meeting of objectives.

In 1947 Pakistan's objective was to gain Jammu and Kashmir.
In 1965 Pakistan's objective was to gain Kashmir by taking Akhnoor.
1999 - Peak 5353 is still marked on the LoC. India mounted attacks even on peaks that were beyond LoC. Peaks that are on our side were all cleared. PA maintains only an OP there. Because it's prolonged defense is not possible.

Right, but if Hindustan never met their objectives either, then the question becomes who achieved more.

I already told you, in 1965 the objective was to defend ourselves from the Hindustani invasion that occurred on the 6th of September, and we did that in little over two weeks, stop conflating pre-war escalation with the actual war itself.

Point 5353 (among others) were always Hindustani, and we took them, which even the Hindustani military admits gives us complete dominance over the area.

Please read my original post, thanks.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Right, but if Hindustan never met their objectives either, then the question becomes who achieved more.

I already told you, in 1965 the objective was to defend ourselves from the Hindustani invasion that occurred on the 6th of September, and we did that in little over two weeks, stop conflating pre-war escalation with the actual war itself.

Point 5353 (among others) were always Hindustani, and we took them, which even the Hindustani military admits gives us complete dominance over the area.

Please read my original post, thanks.

The Indian objective in 1965 was to prevent Akhnoor from falling.
The Lahore attack was a desperate gamble to force PA to divert troops.
For India the war started with Grand Slam and Gibraltar.

Point 5353 was never held by Indian forces. Pls read General Malik's statement on the same in 2001.

Right, but if Hindustan never met their objectives either, then the question becomes who achieved more.

I already told you, in 1965 the objective was to defend ourselves from the Hindustani invasion that occurred on the 6th of September, and we did that in little over two weeks, stop conflating pre-war escalation with the actual war itself.

Point 5353 (among others) were always Hindustani, and we took them, which even the Hindustani military admits gives us complete dominance over the area.

Please read my original post, thanks.

Pakistan should ideally consider Muslim conquests also as their own as a successor state to the Mughal empire.
That would be more apt.

I hope wars are not there between India and Pakistan, both countries should unite and return to being an Islamic Republic.

 

[Hamza913]

The Indian objective in 1965 was to prevent Akhnoor from falling.
The Lahore attack was a desperate gamble to force PA to divert troops.
For India the war started with Grand Slam and Gibraltar.

Point 5353 was never held by Indian forces. Pls read General Malik's statement on the same in 2001.


Pakistan should ideally consider Muslim conquests also as their own as a successor state to the Mughal empire.
That would be more apt.

I hope wars are not there between India and Pakistan, both countries should unite and return to being an Islamic Republic.

No it wasn't, the war started on the 6th of September with Hindustan aiming to cripple the Pakistani military and capture major cities near the border like Lahore.

Irrelevant, because that's not when it started. If you want to play that game, we could take it back to the Rann of Kutch incident.

We already do consider them to be our own, as we are Muslims first and foremost. No matter what other people on this forum may tell you, for Pakistanis, unless the history has to do with their tribe/ethnicity or village/city, we couldn't care less if it has nothing to do with Muslims/Islam.

Inshallah, the entire Muslim world will be united under one flag.