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Assalam u Alikum Brother,

You are trying highlight past but with a some biasedness. I personally am a Fan of Ottoman Empire, such that if the empire builds up again today, I would offer myself for its service.

But the line “Arabs revolt”, Arabs are not to be blamed, not to be generalized, Rather it was a specific clan with political ambitions and plan in place and effect to Get a free Arab.

Try to ask Arab civilians about Turkey and their views, You wouldn’t find them criticizing or Bad Mouthing turks or Turkey. So please, Don’t ignite others to bring in the usual Arab vs Turk mess here.

Ummah did die with the End of Ottoman Rule. But the foundations had been laid 3 centuries back, Already started to cripple, The only stronghold was Turkish Empire which was then dissolved.

But then, No need to mourn the past, Allah has assured Muslims victory nearing the end, That is enough to get satisfied.



This is exactly what I was searching for since long, This Hadith.

Meanwhile, Let me confirm it’s authenticity.

@aliyusuf @SIPRA @Mangus Ortus Novem

Here is the theory, Come on you guys, Not give up, Try the detective approach here.

This “Muslims and Roman will team up” and the “Fight between Romans and Muslims” might be events happening throughout the course of the last few decades, such that this Hadith doesn’t specify the time period of this whole saga, Who knows that this whole event could have already been started some time ago ?

The key to answer is “Common Enemy”
Honestly I don't know how to write it in English so I will write in Turkish.
Aleyküm Selam Brother!
My reply was only about the title. I 100/100 agree with everything you wrote and as a person, I hate being stuck with the past. But as a person, I felt the need to wrote those words because most of the muslims today are being stuck with the past and being an Arab lover.
Honestly, When seeing the muslim world of today, It doesn't matter how much I try, I can't make myself hopeful about the future and the final victory. But I know that hadiths and the sentences in Quran are the truths and they always become true...
 
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However, Yajooj and Majooj are supposed to appear after the death of Dajjal/AntiChrist.

The events of Dajjal would be unprecedented, such that those who know about them might be lucky to understand them but most won’t even realize what’s happening around in the world.

Not necessarily.

I have read yajuj and majuj will be out numbering rest of the human kind by around 7 is to 1 ... from that it may be possible that they are not of this world.

1,000 to 1.

Yajooj Majooj were a Nation of the past, Who were then caged behind walls built by Zul Qarnain.

Nearing the End of times, they will break free. Not sure about the population thing @aliyusuf , This is first time for me to hear that. But I can support your theory by this that after the Death of Dajjal, Humans will be limited, Such that Every survivor would have received Kiss on forehead from Hazrat Isa AS, You can make a guess now.


Appreciate your reply, Could you also classify your input as religious or some passed down story from generations ?
It would help me a lot.

I normally take the input from Jewish, Christianity and Islamic books to be a lead.

Yajuj and Majuj are the Khazar/Ashkenazi Jews (who are not ethnic Jews to begin with,) it meakes sense considerjng the hadith about the breaking the barrier of Zulqarnain during Prophet Muhammad SAWS life. Hazrat Omar also viewed the Khazar Khaganate as Yajuj and Majuj, after several unsuccessful invasions, he turned from the Caucasus towards Persia. Lastly, they are going to use up all the water of the Lake of Tiberias/Tabariyya/Sea of Galilee which is already below the black line (point of no return.)

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Capital and labor are in confrontation with each other
¤ Let us see how many people’s expectations are destroyed




¤ With cleverness/wisdom and prudence this uproar (chaos) cannot be delayed
¤ Because “Wa Qad Kuntum Bihi Tasta’jilun”




¤ Gog and Magog all have been
released
¤ The Muslim eye will see the meaning of ‘Yansilun


(Bang-e-Dra-194)

Lastly this poem of Allama Iqbal reveals the truth. Yansilun is from a verse of the Quran which comes right after the subject of Jerusalem (Holy Land.) Yajuj Majuj are connected to Bani Israil. The Jews were banned from coming to the Holy Land, and the result is that Yajuj Majuj will come when the Jews return.

وَحَرَامٌ عَلَىٰ قَرْيَةٍ أَهْلَكْنَاهَا أَنَّهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ - 21:95

And a ban is laid on every town (population) which We have destroyed that they shall not return (to this world again, nor repent to Us).

حَتَّىٰ إِذَا فُتِحَتْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ وَهُم مِّن كُلِّ حَدَبٍ يَنسِلُونَ - 21:96

Until, when Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) are let loose (from their barrier), and they swiftly swarm from every mound.
 
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Not necessarily.



99 to 1.



Yajuj and Majuj are the Khazar/Ashkenazi Jews (who are not ethnic Jews to begin with,) it meakes sense considerjng the hadith about the breaking the barrier of Zulqarnain during Prophet Muhammad SAWS life. Hazrat Omar also viewed the Khazar Khaganate as Yajuj and Majuj, after several unsuccessful invasions, he turned from the Caucasus towards Persia. Lastly, they are going to use up all the water of the Lake of Tiberias/Tabariyya/Sea of Galilee which is already below the black line (point of no return.)

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Capital and labor are in confrontation with each other
¤ Let us see how many people’s expectations are destroyed




¤ With cleverness/wisdom and prudence this uproar (chaos) cannot be delayed
¤ Because “Wa Qad Kuntum Bihi Tasta’jilun”




¤ Gog and Magog all have been
released
¤ The Muslim eye will see the meaning of ‘Yansilun


(Bang-e-Dra-194)

Lastly this poem of Allama Iqbal reveals the truth. Yansilun is from a verse of the Quran which comes right after the subject of Jerusalem (Holy Land.) Yajuj Majuj are connected to Bani Israil. The Jews were banned from coming to the Holy Land, and the result is that Yajuj Majuj will come when the Jews return.

وَحَرَامٌ عَلَىٰ قَرْيَةٍ أَهْلَكْنَاهَا أَنَّهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ - 21:95

And a ban is laid on every town (population) which We have destroyed that they shall not return (to this world again, nor repent to Us).

حَتَّىٰ إِذَا فُتِحَتْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ وَهُم مِّن كُلِّ حَدَبٍ يَنسِلُونَ - 21:96

Until, when Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) are let loose (from their barrier), and they swiftly swarm from every mound.
No one has ever come to any conclusion so your suggestion is also just a conspiracy, Allah knows the best.

Hazrat Umar RA did witness the wall, A Green Wall himself, Asked that to Prophet SA upon return and was revealed that the wall is the barrier.

Not necessarily.



99 to 1.



Yajuj and Majuj are the Khazar/Ashkenazi Jews (who are not ethnic Jews to begin with,) it meakes sense considerjng the hadith about the breaking the barrier of Zulqarnain during Prophet Muhammad SAWS life. Hazrat Omar also viewed the Khazar Khaganate as Yajuj and Majuj, after several unsuccessful invasions, he turned from the Caucasus towards Persia. Lastly, they are going to use up all the water of the Lake of Tiberias/Tabariyya/Sea of Galilee which is already below the black line (point of no return.)

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Capital and labor are in confrontation with each other
¤ Let us see how many people’s expectations are destroyed




¤ With cleverness/wisdom and prudence this uproar (chaos) cannot be delayed
¤ Because “Wa Qad Kuntum Bihi Tasta’jilun”




¤ Gog and Magog all have been
released
¤ The Muslim eye will see the meaning of ‘Yansilun


(Bang-e-Dra-194)

Lastly this poem of Allama Iqbal reveals the truth. Yansilun is from a verse of the Quran which comes right after the subject of Jerusalem (Holy Land.) Yajuj Majuj are connected to Bani Israil. The Jews were banned from coming to the Holy Land, and the result is that Yajuj Majuj will come when the Jews return.

وَحَرَامٌ عَلَىٰ قَرْيَةٍ أَهْلَكْنَاهَا أَنَّهُمْ لَا يَرْجِعُونَ - 21:95

And a ban is laid on every town (population) which We have destroyed that they shall not return (to this world again, nor repent to Us).

حَتَّىٰ إِذَا فُتِحَتْ يَأْجُوجُ وَمَأْجُوجُ وَهُم مِّن كُلِّ حَدَبٍ يَنسِلُونَ - 21:96

Until, when Ya'juj and Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) are let loose (from their barrier), and they swiftly swarm from every mound.
@Indus Pakistan Have you by any chance ever researched on the king Muslims and Quran describe as “Zul Qarnayn” (Two horned” ?

There have been many interesting researches on this as well, Was he Before or after Alexander ?

Let us not be be so dismissive and sure, brother. And keep an open mind. As per modern age and modern technology no race on earth is trapped by the walls of a mountain as is related by Islamic traditions.

Mongols are definitely not trapped by walls of mountains. So cannot be them. Neither do they outnumber rest of the mankind in the ratio of 7 is to 1.

What is being referred in ancient books as a wall could be a dimensional portal whose access information could have been obscured to the Yajuj and Majuj by Allah on the prayers of Zulqernain. These terms could have been metaphorically changed in favor of the understanding of the people of those times. Because in the end we would be needing the help from Angels from Heaven in the end to overcome them, after suffering huge losses ourselves.
Allah will bring upon them a disease in necks, They will die
 
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Throughout my life, various people i have come across, Some claimed that Qiyamah will come 1400 years after passing away of Prophet Muhammad SA.

However, My nature of being suspicious of such claims by average people, given the fact that many Subcontinent people especially the older generations are SuperStitious and kind of HOAX propagators, I never believed such.

However, I didn’t debunk that either, have it a search over the internet, found this interesting lead to my research over this “AT THE MOMENT” myth.

Do give it a read.

But don’t trust anything blindly, Even this article. We have to verify the sources, Ahadiths, Narrators and all...

https://muslimology.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/how-islam-end-in-70-years/

@Mangus Ortus Novem @SIPRA @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Verve @seven0seven (glad you are not banned yet :P) @El Sidd @aliyusuf

Guys, do give your takes and whatever you might have heard on this. Surely rumours and false or fabricated news prove helpful in research and give leads.

After some years of peace while Hazrat Isa AS will rule the world as a king from Jerusalem, a cold wind will come and take the souls of believers. After which Qiyamat will fall on the worst people.

We are well into Akir uz Zaman (last age) and the virus plague is proof of it, among other signs: wars in syria and yemen at the same time, khurasaan region, instability in egypt, decline of US, refugee crises, hindu temple in arabia, ksa and israel close ties, and the coming fall of Iran
 
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After some years of peace while Hazrat Isa AS will rule the world as a king from Jerusalem, a cold wind will come and take the souls of believers. After which Qiyamat will fall on the worst people.

We are well into Akir uz Zaman (last age) and the virus plague is proof of it, among other signs: wars in syria and yemen at the same time, khurasaan region, instability in egypt, decline of US, refugee crises, hindu temple in arabia, ksa and israel close ties, and the coming fall of Iran
Nothing seems perfectly predicted than The predictions of Naymatullah Shah Wali @Mangus Ortus Novem Have you gave that small book a read ?
 
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Throughout my life, various people i have come across, Some claimed that Qiyamah will come 1400 years after passing away of Prophet Muhammad SA.

However, My nature of being suspicious of such claims by average people, given the fact that many Subcontinent people especially the older generations are SuperStitious and kind of HOAX propagators, I never believed such.

However, I didn’t debunk that either, have it a search over the internet, found this interesting lead to my research over this “AT THE MOMENT” myth.

Do give it a read.

But don’t trust anything blindly, Even this article. We have to verify the sources, Ahadiths, Narrators and all...

https://muslimology.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/how-islam-end-in-70-years/

@Mangus Ortus Novem @SIPRA @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Verve @seven0seven (glad you are not banned yet :P) @El Sidd @aliyusuf

Guys, do give your takes and whatever you might have heard on this. Surely rumours and false or fabricated news prove helpful in research and give leads.
Brother you summarized everything so perfectly that I could't hold myself and gave a thanks :enjoy:
 
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@Indus Pakistan Have you by any chance ever researched on the king Muslims and Quran describe as “Zul Qarnayn” (Two horned” ?

There have been many interesting researches on this as well, Was he Before or after Alexander

There is big chance that Zulkarnaen is Alexandre since we cannot 100 % believe what western world said about him. There is a possibility that Alexander is a Monotheist follower since there is found a temple in Greek that is believed made during ancient Greek period that worship only one God. Maybe there is a sect in Greek that only worship Zeus as the only God.
 
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I was referring to the Yajoj Majoj as Jew poin

Khazars are not Jews by race, they are Mongol/Turkic. They converted to Judaism around the 7th century and established an empire in the Caucasus, also the location of Zul Qarnain's wall.

They further used capitalism to take control of the West and intermarried all ruling families and influential people in Europe.

I am just providing a summary here. You should read about them on your own. It is quite interesting, as is the connection of Gog and Magog with England. Winston Churchill even mentioned them as ancestors of the Anglo-Saxons.
 
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Dajjal itself according to prophet is the one who can make a death person live again

Dajjal won't be able to bring dead back. Shape shifter Sheyateen (Jinn) will be the 'dead relatives brought back'.

Dajjal will control AI and be assisted by Sheyateen - and with these powers and tricks, he will convince many that he is god.
 
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There is big chance that Zulkarnaen is Alexandre since we cannot 100 % believe what western word said about him. There is a possibility that Alexander is a Monotheist follower since there is found a temple in Greek that is believed made during ancient Greek period that worship only one God. Maybe there is a sect in Greek that only worship Zeus as the only God.

It seems logical considering his popularity in the East and his great empire. Zulqarnain means two horned one, which was the helmet of Alexander/ Sikander e Azam.
 
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It seems logical considering his popularity in the East and his great empire. Zulqarnain means two horned one, which was the helmet of Alexander/ Sikander e Azam.

Yup, and dont forget that Alexandre also visited Middle East as well, so other possibility is that he convert to Judaism when he was there before invading Afghan. He then make a wall between the gap in Himalaya where on the other side of Himalaya there is Mongol living there.
 
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Gentlemen, for any of us the moment of reckoning could be the next one. We do not know exactly when qiyama will be - we were not intended to know. The Prophet Muhammad pbuh was asked explicitly and he responded only with its signs. They scholars derive from that he considered it best w did not know.
 
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