How India brought down the US’ supersonic man

[KS]

Oh yeah? What's your sources? any number for the PAF losses?

What a lame-*** reply through a Youtube video

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdyfield(DOCID+in0189)

... the role of the Indian air force was both extensive and daring. During the fourteen-day war, the air force's Western Command conducted some 4,000 sorties. There was little retaliation by Pakistan's air force, partly because of the paucity of non-Bengali technical personnel. Additionally, this lack of retaliation reflected the deliberate decision of the Pakistan Air Force headquarters to conserve its forces because of heavy losses incurred in the early days of the war.

Numbers dont mean sh!t when you deliberately dont use the aircraft. In short, '65 air war was yours, '71 air war was ours.

 

[Desert Fox]

What a lame-*** reply through a Youtube video

Wow, using curse words, did the video burn your rear end that bad??

And hey, i can post smiley's too, see:

Numbers dont mean sh!t when you deliberately dont use the aircraft.

That still doesn't prove that you turned the tables in the aerial war. All it proves that since PAF had less resources, men, and machines therefore it could not afford to use all of its aircraft, so did you shot down all of the PAF aircraft?

 

[KS]

That still doesn't prove that you turned the tables in the aerial war. All it proves that since PAF had less resources, men, and machines therefore it could not afford to use all of its aircraft, so did you shot down all of the PAF aircraft?

Read read read...

Additionally, this lack of retaliation reflected the deliberate decision of the Pakistan Air Force headquarters to conserve its forces because of heavy losses incurred in the early days of the war.

You can only loose you fighter if you use it. It''s as simple as that.

 

[RazPaK]

LMAO. The only war where PAF could match up to the IAF was the '65 war.

We learnt our lessons quickly and '71 was a complete turnaround. After the intial burst, PAF was wise enough to retire most of its fighters to hardened shelters and gave Indian bombers a complete free run inside Pak skies. The only danger to the IAF fighters/bombers after the intial week was from AAA and not PAF fighters.

That was also the reason why PAF suffered less fighter casualties than IAF..while IAF was indulged in a wide range of missions from recce,aerial warfare, CAS, bombing runs..PAF was consigned only to aerial warfare and that too only intially.



http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdyfield(DOCID+in0189)

Stroking of the ego?

 

[KS]

Stroking of the ego?

Excuse me ?

The article is dated Sep 1995..I thought Pak and US were BFF back then.

Accept the reality and move on.

 

[Desert Fox]

Read read read...



You can only loose you fighter if you use it. It''s as simple as that.

What kind of absurd logic is that? How come PAF pilots were able to shoot down more indian aircraft if they didn't use their aircraft?

 

[KS]

What kind of absurd logic is that? How come PAF pilots were able to shoot down more indian aircraft if they didn't use their aircraft?

Aircrafts are lost to AAA also..

 

[RazPaK]

Excuse me ?

The article is dated Sep 1995..I thought Pak and US were BFF back then.

Accept the reality and move on.

What reality? Are we discussing who won the air war?

 

[Desert Fox]

What kind of absurd logic is that? How come PAF pilots were able to shoot down more indian aircraft if they didn't use their aircraft?

Not really, if you look at the amount of aircraft indians shot down its still very low considering their numerical superiority and how much PAF was able to shoot down (excluding AAA).

 

[RazPaK]

Meh. I don't have the energy.


Reference Link for Indians. Have a field day.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/18071-who-won-air-war-1971-a.html

 

[IND151]

i request indian membes to not to try to educate our friends. we won on all 5 fronts i.e diplomatic, geo political., air, naval ., land , in 1971. this is the truth that cant be changed. bg?

 

[RazPaK]

i request indian membes to not to try to educate our friends. we won on all 5 fronts i.e diplomatic, geo political., air, naval ., land , in 1971. this is the truth that cant be changed. bg?

Winning by having more of you aircraft shot down? Does Bollywood give all Indians these dreams of grandeur?

 

[IND151]

Not really, if you look at the amount of aircraft indians shot down its still very low considering their numerical superiority and how much PAF was able to shoot down (excluding AAA).

most of the IAF jets shot down by PAF were strike jets carriying heavy loads. ppghshot down heavy loads. ps

 

[NeutralCitizen]

It seems the USA should have offered more help during the 1971 war however due to being occupied in the Vietnam war we could not. If we had managed to get the Chinese in the war and Pakistan could have ended it like Sri Lanka crushed the Tamils, Losing East Pakistan lead Pakistan down a path of radicalization and paranoia.

 

[jha]

It seems the USA should have offered more help during the 1971 war however due to being occupied in the Vietnam war we could not. If we had managed to get the Chinese in the war and Pakistan could have ended it like Sri Lanka crushed the Tamils, Losing East Pakistan lead Pakistan down a path of radicalization and paranoia.

USA did send its Aircraft Carrier but the move was check-mated by the Soviet SSBNs lurking around....Nixon tried the best he could but sadly for your allies that was not enough...