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Pakistani S.W.A.T. ( Tactical Training)
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Except the first one, all of other others have pictures or police, regular army, Rangers mixed in with the SSG by Tmny. The first one is a TV documentary on the SSG. I think I had posted all three of the parts in the original SSG thread.
 
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Here are the original 3 of the PTV SSG Documentary:

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well I know for sure the SSG are good for:

Pakistan As with their Indian counterparts, personnel of Pakistan's SSG are airborne-qualified and probably air-assault-qualified. Elements of the SSG are known to be HALO-qualified, and it is likely that they are HAHO-qualified as well. Personnel of the SSG receive training at the following schools: airborne (Peshawar), mountain warfare (Abbottad), combat diver (Karachi), and desert warfare. The SSG trains and exercises with other SF from Great Britain, the United States, Turkey, and Jordan. As for languages, English is widely used in Pakistan, although it is not an official language. It is likely that the SSG possesses linguists fluent in certain western Indian dialects
Music: Pakistan The SSG is capable of carrying out the following missions: counter-terrorism, unconventional warfare, counter-insurgency, security for very important people and places, reconnaissance, raids, and riverine operations. The SSG has been accused by India of supporting and participating in incursions into India's portion of Kashmir. Such activities will continue until the political issues surrounding Kashmir are resolved. Another role for the SF of both countries would be long-range reconnaissance and possibly direct-action missions against the other country's ballistic missile forces and weapons-of-mass-destruction facilities. The most likely scenario would involve sets of small teams locating such missiles and facilities and reporting their precise coordinates to be used for a preemptive strike. If Pakistan or India develop or purchase smart munitions, another possible role for their SF will be to act as target designators.
 
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:pakistan: Aslam o alyqum. sab se pehley main aap sab ko yeh batata chaloon keh main yeh sab urdu main is liye likh raha hoon keh doosre log ise parh ker ham pe na hasain. dekhain jazbat aak taraf or haqeeqat iq taraf hamari forces achi forces main se aak hain lakin agar aap yeh kahain keh wo kisi kisam ki koyi ranking per hain yani no 1 or 2 or 3 to yeh galat ho ga or eesa main wese hi nahi keh raha kisi ko azmana ho to us ko imtihan main dala jata he or ham takreeban her imtihan main fail howe hain 1971, saicheen, sarkreek, kargal, lal masjid or taqreeban her jagah. jab tak ham is haqeeqat ko samne nahi rakhain ge ham kamyab nahi ho sakte, ham kya kerte hain keh jazbati ho ker behas karna shuroo ker dete hain lakin apni us kmi ka koyi bandobast nahi karte agar kisi ko meri is bat se mukhalfat he to bataye ke india saicheen per kese aa gaya or unhoon ne hazaroon jane de kar kargal kese le liya or han ab yeh na kehna keh hamare politicians america chale gaye the kyoon keh main almost her fogi officer ke mutaliq janta hoon keh wo sirf kisi achi jaghe plot ya kisi tarhan koyi achi gari ya kisi achi si maldar larki ki talash main he to bhayio aase main wo kese achi training ker sakta he or wo peshawarana zindgi ke liya koyi acha saman kese munthib ker sakta he kyoon keh wo hamesha dosroon ki taraf dekhta rahe ga or han mere in khyalat ke mutaliq jazbati ho ker forran koyi ghalat izhar na ker dena pehley apne dill se pooch lena keh tum kisi bhi tareeqe se koyi achi maldar larki, achi gari ya acha plot doondhne waloon ki sag main shamil to nahi..................................................................................:pakistan: main ye nahi kehta keh ye tumhara haq nahi he main to sirf ye kehta hoon keh qoom ka bhi tum per koyi haq he keh nahi. or ahir main ye kehta chaloon keh is jagah main pehli or akhri martaba aaya hoon is liye dobara nahi aaoon ga. Pakistan payind abad:pakistan:
 
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main almost her fogi officer ke mutaliq janta hoon keh wo sirf kisi achi jaghe plot ya kisi tarhan koyi achi gari ya kisi achi si maldar larki ki talash main he to bhayio aase main wo kese achi training ker sakta he or wo peshawarana zindgi ke liya koyi acha saman kese munthib ker sakta he kyoon keh wo hamesha dosroon ki taraf dekhta rahe ga or han mere in khyalat ke mutaliq jazbati ho ker forran koyi ghalat izhar na ker dena

Jo kutch likha hai bohut ghalat likha hai. Main yahan per kaafi arsay say post karta raha hoon or jazbaati ho kar nahi karta. Fauj ki aksariat peshawarana kamon may masroof rehti hai. Plots her kissi ko nahi miltay or jin ko miltay hain un ko fauj say chutee nahi miltee. Professional training, command waghaira sub saath saath chalta hai.

Hope you get the drift. Can't generalize everything.
 
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You gotta see them, to believe them

Well, the idea is pretty simple, Ask any Taliban about SSG and they will tell you about the SSG and believe me when I say this cause I have spoken to some of the Talibans during my duty in SWA. Even Taliban are S.hit scared of the SSG.
The group has carried out many successful operations. (AND PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE THEM LOW IF DID NOT LIKE ANY OF THEIR OPERATIONS)
As professionals our SSG has undergone many training missions with foreign special forces and proved better in endurance and agility.
When you ask "are they better than US and UK special forces" it sounds like as if you have really stayed with UK or US forces, otherwise your question actually speaks of Media IMPRESSION which they make because of Hollywood made movies called "MILITAINMENT" short for MILITARY ENTERTAINMENT. A field where military and hollywood come together. I dont need to say that they exaggerate every thing there.

One simple example that i want to present here is the story of "Black Hawk Down" this whole movie does not speak much about the heroic rescue effort by Pakistan Army in Somalia where Pak Army rescued "black barrets" of US also including US marines.
If you wanna know the truth then watch "Making of Black Hawk Down" where interviews of actual marines who participated in that failed mission of US mission in Somalia speak about Pakistani efforts.
SSG is no doubt a very professional force that does not fear sacrificing lives.....what else is there in this world to feel fear of.
 
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@ truth, no emotions.
you are right in a sense but please do not generalize. there are always different faces of i=one thing. at times Pakistan Army seems to be a force capable of defending Pakistan where as at other times it looks as if they are too "araam parast". there is no doubt that they are given plots and facilities but at the same time they perform their jobs at siachen and at various dangerous places.
hope you got the point!
 
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:pakistan: Aslam o alyqum. sab se pehley main aap sab ko yeh batata chaloon keh main yeh sab urdu main is liye likh raha hoon keh doosre log ise parh ker ham pe na hasain. dekhain jazbat aak taraf or haqeeqat iq taraf hamari forces achi forces main se aak hain lakin agar aap yeh kahain keh wo kisi kisam ki koyi ranking per hain yani no 1 or 2 or 3 to yeh galat ho ga or eesa main wese hi nahi keh raha kisi ko azmana ho to us ko imtihan main dala jata he or ham takreeban her imtihan main fail howe hain 1971, saicheen, sarkreek, kargal, lal masjid or taqreeban her jagah. jab tak ham is haqeeqat ko samne nahi rakhain ge ham kamyab nahi ho sakte, ham kya kerte hain keh jazbati ho ker behas karna shuroo ker dete hain lakin apni us kmi ka koyi bandobast nahi karte agar kisi ko meri is bat se mukhalfat he to bataye ke india saicheen per kese aa gaya or unhoon ne hazaroon jane de kar kargal kese le liya or han ab yeh na kehna keh hamare politicians america chale gaye the kyoon keh main almost her fogi officer ke mutaliq janta hoon keh wo sirf kisi achi jaghe plot ya kisi tarhan koyi achi gari ya kisi achi si maldar larki ki talash main he to bhayio aase main wo kese achi training ker sakta he or wo peshawarana zindgi ke liya koyi acha saman kese munthib ker sakta he kyoon keh wo hamesha dosroon ki taraf dekhta rahe ga or han mere in khyalat ke mutaliq jazbati ho ker forran koyi ghalat izhar na ker dena pehley apne dill se pooch lena keh tum kisi bhi tareeqe se koyi achi maldar larki, achi gari ya acha plot doondhne waloon ki sag main shamil to nahi..................................................................................:pakistan: main ye nahi kehta keh ye tumhara haq nahi he main to sirf ye kehta hoon keh qoom ka bhi tum per koyi haq he keh nahi. or ahir main ye kehta chaloon keh is jagah main pehli or akhri martaba aaya hoon is liye dobara nahi aaoon ga. Pakistan payind abad:pakistan:

I think you should change your flag to Indian flag it suits you more and of course nothing to do with emotions cause without your emotions you can only think negative.:pakistan:
 
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@ above.
He is almost right. Dont be blind, cant you see whats happening these days. average Pakistanis are struggling for food and water whereas Generals and similar ranks are enjoying hell of a lifestyle.
 
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@ above.
He is almost right. Dont be blind, cant you see whats happening these days. average Pakistanis are struggling for food and water whereas Generals and similar ranks are enjoying hell of a lifestyle.

Average Pakistani's are struggling for food because of the fact that average Pakistani's voted in a bunch of corrupt and useless politicians who are "fiddling whilst Rome burns" to use the old saying. The simple fact is that they messed up the economy (which was doing quite well under the army) Thus creating the climate you talk of.

Time to smell the coffee..
 
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.....(which was doing quite well under the army) .....

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Who said it was doing well under the army?
Army is supposed to defend Pakistan not Rule it. and by the way Last political government was also kind of Army reign. it only stopped when MUSH retired. PM was his guy. and other ministers were also his men.
 
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.....(which was doing quite well under the army) .....

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Who said it was doing well under the army?
Army is supposed to defend Pakistan not Rule it. and by the way Last political government was also kind of Army reign. it only stopped when MUSH retired. PM was his guy. and other ministers were also his men.

THE FACTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

Go and take another look at the economic figures. I think you will find that they have dropped significantly. Maybe the army is not supposed to rule but they seem to do a better job then the corrupt politicians that exist in their place.

And the political uncertainty that the current bunch of of self serving cretins have created (plus their track record of corruption and criminality) has damaged investment and money coming into PAK. In fact I know of at least one major company here that has decided against sourcing goods from there due to the current govt (your precious "democrats" and that is being said with sarcasm)

The simple truth is that PAK needs a better education system before it needs democracy. Because frankly if they keep voting in the same corrupt idiots then they need to get smarter before they understand the concept of democracy and how it works. At the moment all that exists is a slightly advanced fuedal system.
 
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