How does PDF turks feel abt their country joining the EU?

[MarkusS]

Auf jeden Fall.
Warum sollten sie die EU sonst übernehmen wollen ?
Reicht doch, dass Geschäftsleute VISA bekommen.
Auf die kurdischen und andere Bauern verzichten wir gerne.



Me ?

Alberto Piazza from Torino Edu made a DNA analysis 2004 and claimed that Etruscan have Central Asian roots.

Don't poison European history. Europe is Scandinavian and Mid Europe ethnics. Rest is a mix

no, you are plain and simply the wild barbarians we civilized. Do you even have a history?

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Oh this is good, the so called "Europe" even can't tolerate each other.

 

[MarkusS]

Dude, that's out off topic but we destroyed your Roman Empire in Teutoburg Woods .

"Varus...... Varus give my Legions back". Germany keeps you all breathing.

You destroyed our empire in teutoburg woods? Thats funny. Because this battle was when we had Augustus as emperor. Our first emperor at all. It was at the very beginning of our empire.

As i said learn history...but dont stop working. Your tax money pays my vacations

 

[bsruzm]

no, you are plain and simply the wild barbarians we civilized. Do you even have a history?

I agree and I think Rome is a shining exception in Europe's long history of wild boars and brown bears JK.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

I agree and I think Rome is a shining exception in Europe's long history of wild boars and brown bears JK.

This i actually agree with. The Northern barbaric tribesmen think civilization is abuse of the "weaker" the exploitation of cultures'/peoples that are for them less progressed anglo/saxon retarded mindset, that continues with the US a less humane British Empire. Obviously progress is solely meeting our neverending material gluttony.

Rome, however barbaric elements were there, was an empire founded upon philosophy aesthetics and power. Roman civilization far outweighs prussian tribesmen and modern anglo-saxon regressive mindset. Social darwinism employed worldwide, no aethethics, no maturity, no wisdom.

Don't poison European history. Europe is Scandinavian and Mid Europe ethnics.

What history is this? Viking pillaging and rape history? Show me your culture, monuments just anything

 

[Taygibay]

Why? I doubt you can make a difference between me as someone from tuscany or someone from lazio.

You're right on that but Romans, Neapolitans and Sicilians I could.
It's clear that cultural traits have to be experienced to claim complete
knowledge but things as separation of social groups are also clearly
identifiable as are historical tendencies.

Fight between democratic progressive forces and a rural & traditionalist
majority with Empire identity fans running in both components
coming with a hefty side dish of Kurds and a slice of Shia for dessert?
Things like that ...​

What my post meant was : if you really have no or little idea of the reality
in people and mores, shouldn't you be asking more questions instead of
spurting definitive opinions?

I think the answers from our Turkish comrades to the poll/question if spared
from the trollish slugfest and kept clean would have been a great way to learn
exactly that.

And if expressing a foreign opinion is it instead, I'd venture the answer is likely
Who cares, Türkiye can manage/is different at root level;
Yes, it's the/a path to a better future and Turkish position in international community
for the left wing assemblage;
Yes for the Kurds who'd be better protected by European libertarian social conventions.
And a resounding No for the Shia.

Having said which,
I'd be more interested in reading clear substantiated calm and collected answers then in
pumping up the white noise volume?

Just sayin' Tay.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

You're right on that but Romans, Neapolitans and Sicilians I could.
It's clear that cultural traits have to be experienced to claim complete
knowledge but things as separation of social groups are also clearly
identifiable as are historical tendencies.

Fight between democratic progressive forces and a rural & traditionalist
majority with Empire identity fans running in both components
coming with a hefty side dish of Kurds and a slice of Shia for dessert?
Things like that ...​

What my post meant was : if you really have no or little idea of the reality
in people and mores, shouldn't you be asking more questions instead of
spurting definitive opinions?

I think the answers from our Turkish comrades to the poll/question if spared
from the trollish slugfest and kept clean would have been a great way to learn
exactly that.

And if expressing a foreign opinion is it instead, I'd venture the answer is likely
Who cares, Türkiye can manage/is different at root level;
Yes, it's the/a path to a better future and Turkish position in international community
for the left wing assemblage;
Yes for the Kurds who'd be better protected by European libertarian social conventions.
And a resounding No for the Shia.

Having said which,
I'd be more interested in reading clear substantiated calm and collected answers then in
pumping up the white noise volume?

Just sayin' Tay.

Your pseudo academic wannabe writing style stinks. Just stop

 

[Gibbs]

But i know ''they are biting the hand that fed them'' bla bla

This is the common theme for all terror groups from around the world who are/were supported by external actors to destabilize other sovereign nations

Thats why no terrorist is a good terrorist never becomes false, Ask from India to Pakistan to the US and the UK, Even the Saudi's and Israel, They all have learnt it the hard way by supporting terrorists against others

Erdogan is playing a dangerous game with Turkish peoples lives, I bet most of you acknowledge this but wont admit it in open forums due to nationalistic pride

 

[xenon54 out]

This is the common theme for all terror groups from around the world who are/were supported by external actors to destabilize other sovereign nations

Thats why no terrorist is a good terrorist never becomes false, Ask from India to Pakistan to the US and the UK, Even the Saudi's and Israel, They all have learnt it the hard way by supporting terrorists against others

Erdogan is playing a dangerous game with Turkish peoples lives, I bet most of you acknowledge this but wont admit it in open forums due to nationalistic pride

Im talking in this forum as im talking about politics with my friends, i have said multiple times that i dont agree with our FP but that Turkey is supporting isis is simply bs.
The bigeest overseas base of Turkey is located in North Iraq also known as Iraqi Kurdistan to train Peshmerga now one should explain me the logic in supporting isis.
Just because i dont like Erdogan doesnt mean im gonna jump on the bandwaggon of hate thats targeting my Nation disguised as Erdogan criticizm.

 

[Gibbs]

Im talking in this forum as im talking about politics with my friends, i have said multiple times that i dont agree with our FP but that Turkey is supporting isis is simply bs.
The bigeest overseas base of Turkey is located in North Iraq also known as Iraqi Kurdistan to train Peshmerga now one should explain me the logic in supporting isis.
Just because i dont like Erdogan doesnt mean im gonna jump on the bandwaggon of hate thats targeting my Nation disguised as Erdogan criticizm.

Lots of evidence to show otherwise mate, But to each his own how to or not to believe that evidence

I dont hate Turkey quite the contrary, I admired it but I hate what the current leadership has done to it, and it's role in destabilizing the region

 

[xenon54 out]

Lots of evidence to show otherwise mate, But to each his own how to or not to believe that evidence

I dont hate Turkey quite the contrary, I admired it but I hate what the current leadership has done to it, and it's role in destabilizing the region

Yeah those have been posted here but no evidence so far, most were some claims citing either anonymour sources or ypg.

 

[Taygibay]

Just stop

Good luck with that and too bad you could not answer.

Good day to you, Tay.