How did we miss this? President Alvi Launches Artificial Computing Initiative (PIAIC)

[graphican]

@war&peace @Nilgiri @LeGenD @Clutch @AZADPAKISTAN2009

If one is looking for having a job/study in Germany or Norway in the programs, which program is suitable and holds large prospects for learners or professionals?

And in general as well, which program has good prospects to make career in coming 5 or 10 years? given trends in world

@PaklovesTurkiye

The world is changing at a far greater rate than we can anticipate 10 years. Any field of study you pick will see changes, but there are few subject which are highly likely to be replaced or transformed by technology. Go through following research. It will give you some idea

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/27/jobs-risk-automation-according-oxford-university-one/

Second, if you want to understand what kind of education will be required in the future, watch this video by Sam Ovens. What we learn in College/Universities is only 1/5 (20%) levels of education required to be successful in life. Focus towards becoming a "full-stack person" as in the future, when subjects and jobs will shuffle a lot, a full-stack person is most likely to succeed.

May Allah help you get all you want and all you need in two worlds.

 

[Kabotar]

If you guys are interested you can also check out www.alnafi.com they are or rather going to offer these courses and also will finance micro Masters from edx. Their subscribe is only 2500 for the year. Check them out

 

[VCheng]

Some good answers already in the thread.

I can only really speak for science/engineering. You have to go as high as you can (doesn't matter the exact discipline) in making your skills multi-faceted and adaptable (so you can define yourself well from what can be automated or potentially automated later). In fact where I started out in my first bunch of jobs (vibration analysis + heat flows..esp as they related to satellite bus design) is very different to where I am now (stochastic fluid flows in jet engines)....due to me specialising and refining in core modelling design of generic multivariate analysis (i.e with dynamic coding + feedback/validation + remodelling using things like monte carlo analysis)...something that is very resistant to automation (because it involves a lot of hardware - software interaction for iterative testing - that automation is generally poor at given it is not that great at iteratively changing itself autonomously + quickly). Basically a good balance of big picture and specialisation too....rather than either/or.

I find that both higher ups and clients I have to interact with, appreciate I am able to give a well rounded perspective in modelling/designing/integrating things past what they strictly asked for (just one example)....this makes them return to me ...rather than go elsewhere, basically its a USP retention.

You have to push for all and as much of this wherever possible....it is a soft skill (and it didn't come easily at all for me, but now its almost second nature after I forced myself to take some risks in how I present things to see what works and what doesnt and more importantly with who and why). Again its a balance of risk/reward and how you harness your personality (everything that makes you unique) to help your communication on what your proven, refined and honed skills are (esp how they can help address what you are not so good at). You have to be prepared to fail a few times (but understand how to control and mitigate that potential result so it doesnt ruin everything)....this generally concerns your career from mid 20s to mid 30s nowadays from what I have talked with people.

So I dont think its a question really of what programs are best etc...rather what is the drive/attitude you are going to pursue within a program (that you find some interest in/affinity for).

@Joe Shearer @VCheng @WAJsal @Oscar and others may have some interesting inputs to add.

BTW Happy new year to you my friend @PaklovesTurkiye

An excellent response, but I am not sure how many will actually get what you are trying to say here.

 

[LeGenD]

@war&peace @Nilgiri @LeGenD @Clutch @AZADPAKISTAN2009

If one is looking for having a job/study in Germany or Norway in the programs, which program is suitable and holds large prospects for learners or professionals?

And in general as well, which program has good prospects to make career in coming 5 or 10 years? given trends in world

Every discipline have its significance, but 'what type of skills' you equip yourself with, will influence your career prospects. Computing skills are a must, IMHO.

Pointers:

[1] Artificial Intelligence
[2] Internet of Things (Networks)
[3] Big Data
[4] Research (Publications)
[5] Quantum Computing
[6] Graphics designing
[7] Robotics
[8] E-commerce

In no specific order.

 

[Nilgiri]

An excellent response, but I am not sure how many will actually get what you are trying to say here.

I just speak my mind....and people can ask for any further clarity if they feel the need to ...that also kinda strangely ties in with the theme of what I was going for. For those that dont get it and dont care...well thats good too...no more time need be wasted ...we go our separate ways.

 

[VCheng]

I just speak my mind....and people can ask for any further clarity if they feel the need to ...that also kinda strangely ties in with the theme of what I was going for. For those that dont get it and dont care...well thats good too...no more time need be wasted ...we go our separate ways.

Oh I understand that. It is just that the wording of the questions posed to you was interesting, for suitable programs in Germany or Norway with good prospects to make a career in the next decade, that is all. This would imply that the person asking the question just wants an easy way in to a cushy job no matter what the field, not exactly the highly motivated foundation that your answer seems to require.

 

[Nilgiri]

Oh I understand that. It is just that the wording of the questions posed to you was interesting, for suitable programs in Germany or Norway with good prospects to make a career in the next decade, that is all. This would imply that the person asking the question just wants an easy way in to a cushy job no matter what the field, not exactly the highly motivated foundation that your answer seems to require.

Hehe....Pakloveturkiye and I have interacted fair amount outside of the forum....its bit more complex than that .

What I'm saying actually is with regards to "good prospects in the next decade" actually....i.e the envelope for cushy is going to shrink a whole bunch (esp in the top tier stuff)...so ppl have to shape up and pre-empt that

 

[VCheng]

Hehe....Pakloveturkiye and I have interacted fair amount outside of the forum....its bit more complex than that .

What I'm saying actually is with regards to "good prospects in the next decade" actually....i.e the envelope for cushy is going to shrink a whole bunch (esp in the top tier stuff)...so ppl have to shape up and pre-empt that

Oh I see. May I suggest that you include in you discussions where said career might be rooted, because once an education in the right field is completed, the entrant must navigate through a maze of visa and job rules for the more lucrative countries while the assumption that the skills will be portable to the home market may not be entirely robust.

 

[Nilgiri]

Oh I see. May I suggest that you include in you discussions where said career might be rooted, because once an education in the right field is completed, the entrant must navigate through a maze of visa and job rules for the more lucrative countries while the assumption that the skills will be portable to the home market may not be entirely robust.

Indeed.

 

[VCheng]

Indeed.

Hence, it is passion for a particular field that is important, first and foremost, and then the drive to make the most of any and all opportunities that come or can be created, for any given individual. My advice usually starts with what does one like to do, and where one wants to go, and only then builds upon how to get there. That is often too hard to comprehend or follow to success, but it is the only way, usually.

 

[QasimTraveler]

Great thread this one

May I share something.

If you want to know what jobs are in trending in Europe than this link is a good source.

As far as a stable career goes, it really depends on your own background and drive. Technical fields are a safe bet but they are also the ones that become really outdated in a few years so continuous education is a must.

Other than that, if you really want to move outside from Pakistan or your present place of stay, look towards China, Canada and EU (some countries.)

Best of luck.

Muhammad Hamza December 15, 2018
(PIAIC)2018-12-15T00:05:35+00:00 News 1 Comment

President Arif Alvi launched the Presidential Initiative for Artificial Intelligence & Computing (PIAIC) a few days ago.

"PIAIC is an interdisciplinary hub for mass education, research, and business in artificial intelligence (AI), data science, cloud computing, edge computing, blockchain, and the internet of things (IoT) related fields.”

The initiative comes in a bid to enable Pakistan in making an imprint on the world’s path towards the fourth industrial revolution. It aims to transform the fields of education, research, and business in Pakistan.

One-year programs available under the PIAIC include Artificial Intelligence, Cloud Native Computing, and Blockchain.

Artificial Intelligence (AI) is a one-year, four-quarter program that has been designed for absolute beginners. The AI program is divided into four quarters, i.e., AI Foundations, Introduction to Data Science and Deep Learning, Deploying AI Solutions, and AI in Practice.

The second program is the Cloud Native Computing and Amazon Web Services (AWS) Specialist. This one-year program is also split into four parts, i.e., Cloud Native Computing Foundations, Developing Cloud Native Microservices, Kubernetes in Practice, and AWS Application Development.

The third program, Blockchain, includes Foundations of Blockchain, Smart Contract Development, Dapp Development, and Advanced Blockchain Topics.

The registration for the programs starting tomorrow. More details regarding PIAIC can be reached

https://www.piaic.org/
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https://www.technologytimes.pk/alvi-launches-artificial-computing/

This is just too good...

That is great news!

I wonder what will be the role of NCAI. Is PIAIC any way affiliated with this?

 

[War Thunder]

@Areesh @graphican @CriticalThought

what do you guys say? to my post # 2

@krash

You want me to tell you how to enslave yourself to the system in Germany or Norway?
How to "study" to be a better slave and factory worker?

Nope, I don't deal with that...

But do you want to hear how to be free of the system and how you can get real wealth (freedom to live the way you want) and not be predisposed to misery.
Because money cant buy wealth, but it can make you awfully comfortable while being miserable.

And no that road doesn't need to go through any particular program or degree, which are completely irrelevant these days, except for the ones who feel comfortable within the sytem.

"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - Albert Einstein

 

[krash]

@war&peace @Nilgiri @LeGenD @Clutch @AZADPAKISTAN2009

If one is looking for having a job/study in Germany or Norway in the programs, which program is suitable and holds large prospects for learners or professionals?

And in general as well, which program has good prospects to make career in coming 5 or 10 years? given trends in world

Ah, that's a pretty broad question whose answer would include too many fields. However, Engineering (especially mechanical and electrical) have always been the safest options for decades now. Always in demand and pays well too.

But to be completely honest, I wouldn't ever recommend joining a program or choosing a vocational field just on how well it might pay in the future. Areas where your interests lay are just as important as the field's future prospects. So you should pick the field that you are most interested in, decide the sort of work you see yourself doing for the rest of your life (e.g. field, research, etc.), then research programs in your fields of interest accordingly and only then pick the most promising program for the future.

 

[Lucky Breeze]

Uncle pahly sensor tech ki taraf bachon ko lagaen.

 

[Nilgiri]

Ah, that's a pretty broad question whose answer would include too many fields. However, Engineering (especially mechanical and electrical) have always been the safes options for decades now. Always in demand and pays well too.

But to be completely honest, I wouldn't ever recommend joining a program or choosing a vocational field just on how well it might pay in the future. Areas where your interests lay are just as important as the field's future prospects. So you should pick the field that you are most interested in, decide the sort of work you see yourself doing for the rest of your life (e.g. field, research, etc.), then research programs in your fields of interest accordingly and only then pick the most promising program for the future.

I've been wondering, what is your field out of interest? You seem a very well put together chap.