HOW DID INDIA AND PAKISTAN PULL THIS OFF ???

[Joe Shearer]

The same reason why India surprise attacked Pakistan at night and still miss with their brand new Israeli targeting system;
while Pakistan attacked and succeeded in broad daylight with prior warning?

The answer is in @Rusty post

Oh, you mean that guy standing on his bunker-top shouting 'Fore!'?

Damn.

We thought he had used a 4 iron instead of a wood and was trying to warn us.

 

[Rusty]

Both pulled it off; now both need someone to put it back on.

I'm on board, No one wants to see anything off.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Also proves that Israeli junk works against Palestinian civilians and are useless in real combat.

2 in 1.

This is getting better and better.

 

[Rusty]

No one from Pakistan* believes Indian accounts anymore.

This discussion between members can’t lead to the truth. Both sides believe their own respective sources.

Ask NY Times, Washington post, CNN, BBC, Aljazeera

 

[Joe Shearer]

I'm on board, No one wants to see anything off.

Want a towel?

As much as I despise Israel, i respect their innovation and state of the art tech.

But technology is useless when the pilot/soldier doesn't know what they are doing

Yes, I remember someone saying that at Asal Uttar.

Good one.

More like the Indian kill count is due to ISPR.
The Pakistani kill count is based on incompetence.

Idiot.

The Indian kill count is due to the competence of ISPR.
The Pakistani kill count is due to the incompetence of ISPR.

Get your concepts clear before irritating these good people.

yeah, no one belives Indian accounts anymore.

That's why, on another thread, another forum, I advised my friends to wait until the ISPR confirms that a Pakistani pilot was killed in action. Some people believe in all or nothing.

 

[IFB]

Since PAF claims they shot down two IAF jets and completely rubbished that a F16 went down...the gun footage is only available with PAF...IAF dont have any proof as their jets were destroyed in action...if PAF released the footage of its jet taking down IAF jets...its game over for modi...will they ever release that footage is the million dollar question and in the process prove without an iota of doubt and nail IAF...until something like that happens neither side can be believed.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I wouldn't say the Israeli systems failed. The IAF attacked coordinates in Balakot that they were provided. The munitions hit those coordinates (as far as we can tell). Now, if the coordinates were bad, then there is nothing the IAF or the Israeli munitions can be faulted for.

Is it permitted to agree with your entire post except the last sentence?

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Oh, you mean that guy standing on his bunker-top shouting 'Fore!'?

Damn.

We thought he had used a 4 iron instead of a wood and was trying to warn us.

ISPR literally said that they would get payback in the coming days, I thought you would know since your country's existence revolves around Pakistan

 

[Joe Shearer]

Its state of the art so malfunction is unlikely, but if the intel, planning, and execution is botched then it will fail



You lost 50 soldiers, blamed it entirely on Pakistan and still have nothing to show for it

You mean the 44 CRPF jawans killed by a vehicle born IED driven by a suicide bomber? Yes, we accepted the JeM claim that they had done it, and bombed their camp. What did you want 'shown for it'?

ISPR literally said that they would get payback in the coming days, I thought you would know since your country's existence revolves around Pakistan

No, our country's existence revolves around whatever the ISPR 'literally' says. I am glad you don't step back and look at this thread. It would be cruel.

And, as you have correctly assumed was the Pakistani understanding of the situation, nobody from the Indian military or political leadership ever suspected that there might be a tit-for-tat reaction.

DON'T step back.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

I wouldn't say the Israeli systems failed. The IAF attacked coordinates in Balakot that they were provided. The munitions hit those coordinates (as far as we can tell). Now, if the coordinates were bad, then there is nothing the IAF or the Israeli munitions can be faulted for.

I don't think coordinates will be wrong. The space program is pretty accurate.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Is it permitted to agree with your entire post except the last sentence?

Absolutely.

Though I'd like to know what part you're disagreeing with:

1. That the coordinates were bad (intelligence failure) - is your view that there was a legitimate militant target at the location and therefore no intelligence failure?

2. That the IAF and/or Israeli munitions can't be faulted?

 

[AfrazulMandal]

What I don't understand is why is Pakistan taking action against JeM.

They have defeated India in the air and land. Why does it want to lose the massive grassroot support?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Absolutely.

Though I'd like to know what part you're disagreeing with:

1. That the coordinates were bad (intelligence failure) - is your view that there was a legitimate militant target at the location and therefore no intelligence failure?

2. That the IAF and/or Israeli munitions can't be faulted?

Neither, actually. I thought I'd get brownie points for almost complete agreement!

Seriously, please look at the other posts; what are you doing here?

 

[Longhorn]

India pulled it off due to extreme incompetence.
Pakistan pulled it off due to Indian extreme incometence.

Or due to extreme Pakistani competence.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

What I don't understand is why is Pakistan taking action against JeM.

They have defeated India in the air and land. Why does it want to lose the massive grassroot support?

JeM has attacked the Pakistani State in the past. In the long run they are a liability.