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"How Can You Defend Israel?"

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Israel is one of the very few true democracies in the Middle East and all of SW Asia. The success in science, business, the arts and in general of Israel as a nation speaks for itself. Israel's popularly elected Parliament, the Kinesset, has Arab Muslim Members elected to it. Sharriah Law is permitted to be practiced inside Israel, under Israeli Law. Sharria Law as practiced there is not the radical, make it up as you go along to try to dominate, control, and put down innocent people type of law being masqueraded in the guise of religion by the al Qaida and Taliban in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and elsewhere. If Islam means peace then Sharia in it's true form is itself peaceful and non-violent as practiced by Muslims in Israel.

The Jews and all Arabs are all of the same blood, that of Abraham. Historic bickering over Ishmael and Isaac led to the division of religions at the time of Muhammad when he left the early Christian church at Medina and founded what we know today as Islam.

Who would be greater and who would be lesser involve are issues of false pride, arrogance, and pettiness but have had major impact on world history.

The World in general and the US in specific defend the right of Israel and her people to exist. The UN 1947 Resolution creating the modern state of Israel allowed for an equally proud nation of Palestine. Arab bickering and resistance has lessened the land and rewards of Palestinian statehood vs. what the 1947 UN Resolution required.

A peaceful resort to the original UN Resolution authorizing the creation to the two side by side equal states would be a peaceful way to end this man made dilemma.

See the list of how nations voted for the 1947 UN Resolution creating Israel for a list of who voted for and against Israel. Pakistan, then itself a new nation, voted against the creation of Israel, which was a mistake as Paksitan is not an ethnic Arab state.

God Almighty through Abraham and his wife Sarah and through Abraham's bondswoman Hagar the Egyptian created two sons of Abraham. Both are valid sons, both have standing in our Holy Bible. But God's chosen people in our Bible are the Jews...but God's love and protection and care for all other people is likewise provided for through the descendants of Ishmael. Both Ishmael, born of Hagar, and Isaac, born of Sarah, are blessed of God, as are all their descendants.

Here is a summary of UN Resolution 181 from 1947 and how the world voted on it:

After considerable debate, the United Nations General Assembly decided on partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem to be an internationalized city. The plan enjoyed the warm support of the Soviet Union and its Eastern European satellite governments. Josef Stalin hoped that the new Jewish state would be a bulwark against British imperialism. Owing to the support of President Truman, and despite State Department advice and Department of Defense pressure, the United States likewise supported the partition plan, and ensured its passage.

Meeting in Lake Success N.Y. November 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly approved the partition plan, with 33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstentions and one absent (see list at end of document).

The Palestinians and Arabs felt that it was a total injustice to ignore the rights of the majority of the population of Palestine. The Arab League and Palestinian institutions rejected the partition plan, and formed volunteer armies that infiltrated into Palestine beginning in December of 1947.

A compromise, following the intervention of Haim Weizmann with President Truman, gave Beersheba and the city of Yaffo to the Arab state.

Resolution 181 also declared Jerusalem to be a corpus separatum - a separate body, to be run under an international UN administration. The area to be run in this way included all of Jerusalem, Bethlehem and Beit Sahour, to encompass the Christian holy sites.

In favour: 33

Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian S.S.R., Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxemburg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, Ukrainian S.S.R., Union of South Africa, U.S.A., U.S.S.R., Uruguay, Venezuela.

Against: 13

Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.

Abstained: 10

Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.
 
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God almighty will defend Israel, and every other region of this earth from diabolical forces.

The Israeli people might not be very romantic, as is evident from this video, but there is no denying about deep love and affection they have for India.
I remember of many cases of lovers walking hand in hand down the streets with jealous onlookers laughing and jeering.
 
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God almighty will defend Israel, and every other region of this earth from diabolical forces.

The Israeli people might not be very romantic, as is evident from this video, but there is no denying about deep love and affection they have for India.
I remember of many cases of lovers walking hand in hand down the streets with jealous onlookers laughing and jeering.

how old are you? :rofl:

seriously, is it possible to speak with a brain and being fair
ok we see in this forum that Indians use Israel for good relations with US to be favored . Respecting a country and saying it is democratic
doesn't mean we should say everything is fine

especially say the "diabolical forces"
what's this???
stop your 5 yo speech here pls
 
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Its all adamant behavior of arab and West... the money Arab spent on Palestine, tn that money they could have given 1 lakh dollar to each Palestinian... Arab control >20% of worls land, can't they give some land to jew and some to palestine, so that both can enjoy there life???

Pakistan was created from Indian land on basis of Religion, almost 20% of Indian land was given to non existing Pakistan(there is no history of Pakistan before 1947) then whats the problem to give a small piece of land to Jews???

I just want this war to be over, as Indian ppl made Pakistan to avoid further problem, the Arab do the same with Israel... Co-exist happily...
 
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^^^That is what the Arab peace plan and the camp david accords call for.

Establishing the state of Palestine and Israel in the pre-1967 borders. So there is already a partition of land being giving to Israel. The next step is for Israel to withdraw from West Bank and Gaza and complete the creation of the state of Palestine.

No one is calling for Israel to be wiped off except for a few fringe elements just like there are fringe elements in Israel who want to expel all Palestinians.

The Arab peace plan firmly puts not only recognition of Israel but full trade and diplomatic relations. So its really Israel to respond to the offer now.
 
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One side they are offering something, other side they are funding Hamas. They are doing propaganda against each other (One call baby killer, other call terrorist). is this the way to build confidence???

The best solution will be " Settle the Palestinians to Some Arab country like Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq, Turkey or Egypt..." or settle Jews to Some European country. If they will stay together, they will keep fighting like India Pakistan....
 
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You should listen to the OFFICIAL government policy statements.

The Official Arab league policy is the Arab peace plan that gives a major concession of not insisting on Palestinans refugees right to return.

If the Saudi-led peace plan is saying that they will have full trade and diplomatic relations once the plan is implemented, there is no reason why Israel should give it a try espicially since it has more to gain than lose from it. As it is, the occupation of West Bank and Gaza is making life difficult for Israel.
 
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the occupation of West Bank and Gaza is making life difficult for Israel.
3.2 Chalcolithic period (4500–3000 BC) and Bronze Age (3000–1200 BC)
3.3 Iron Age (1200–330 BC)
3.3.1 Hebrew Bible/Old Testament period
3.3.2 Persian rule (538 BC)
3.4 Classical antiquity
3.4.1 Hellenistic rule (333 BC)
3.4.2 Hasmonean dynasty (140 BC)
3.4.3 Roman rule (63 BC)
3.4.4 Byzantine (Eastern Roman) rule (330–640 AD)
3.5 Islamic period (630–1918 AD)
3.5.1 Arab Caliphate rule (638–1099 AD)
3.5.1.1 Umayyad rule (661–750 AD)
3.5.1.2 Abbasid rule (750–969 AD)
3.5.1.3 Fatimid rule (969–1099 AD)
3.5.2 Crusader rule (1099–1187 AD)
3.5.3 Mamluk rule (1270–1516 AD)
3.5.4 Ottoman rule (1516–1831 AD)
3.5.5 Egyptian rule (1831–1841)
3.5.6 Ottoman rule (1841–1917)
3.6 20th century
3.7 British Mandate (1920–1948)
3.7.1 Infrastructure and development
3.7.2 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine
3.7.3 World War II and Palestine
3.7.4 End of the British Mandate 1945–1948
3.8 UN partition and the 1948 Israeli-Arab War .


After Ottoman Empire annihilated that area was under British control... Brits always did the same , they divided India (Pakistan) without solving many issue.. same they did with Israel... Brits could have given some land to Palistinian ppl to avoid this problem...
 
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why Pakistanis don't like Israel ????

anyone???????:what::what:

For the same reasons they hate India .... i.e, Brutalities committed by them on our Muslim Brethren .... Human Rights Abbuses in Pelastine by them just like Human Rights Abbuses in Kashmir by India.
 
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Its not defending, Its better for all (especially We Muslims) to end this struggle... This Palestinian cause is spoiling many kids brain, Its showing the seed of extremism ... One of them to step back to make the environment clean and clear...
 
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