How Bangladeshis see India

[Zabaniyah]

If I am not very much mistaken,one of the best fighter pilots to perform in the Arab-Israel war was from East Pakistan.

His name is Saiful Azam.

Saiful Azam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Group captain(rtd) Saiful Azam- Legendary Eagle Of The Sky | Facebook
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/45197-inherited-professionalism.html

I dont find any logical reason for why Pakistan got involved in that though.

Even though a small contingent of Pakistanis joined the force, the fact is that David Ben Gurion threatened Pakistan. Therefore, sending a small force is valid.

Here is what he said:

“The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. “This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. “Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. “It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.”

-David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister.His words, as printed in the Jewish Chronicle,9 August 1967:

Solomon's House: Debunking "Ben-Gurion on Pakistan"

 

[The HBS Guy]

I dont find any logical reason for why Pakistan got involved in that though.

Adaoing taang in others' fadda is a favorite pastime for Pakistanis.

 

[Md Akmal]

If I am not very much mistaken,one of the best fighter pilots to perform in the Arab-Israel war was from East Pakistan.

I dont find any logical reason for why Pakistan got involved in that though.

@ In those days Pakistan got the contract with Syria/Jordern to train their pilot. So many Pakistani pilots were stationed there. Once war broke out from the request of the King Hossain/Assad these pilots joined the war out of "Jose". Infact, legally they cannot.

 

[Bombay Dude]

How are they being killed? Why are they being killed?Could you plz shed some light on it? is the Indian security forces voilating the BD border and killing them or how? I heard many BD people raising this. What India is gaining by doing such things?

BD People Illegally cross the fence to come to India but get gunned down many times taken for a smuggler.

 

[nForce]

His name is Saiful Azam.

Saiful Azam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Group captain(rtd) Saiful Azam- Legendary Eagle Of The Sky | Facebook
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/45197-inherited-professionalism.html



Even though a small contingent of Pakistanis joined the force, the fact is that David Ben Gurion threatened Pakistan. Therefore, sending a small force is valid.

Here is what he said:

“The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs. “This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan. “Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan. “It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.”

-David Ben Gurion, the first Israeli Prime Minister.His words, as printed in the Jewish Chronicle,9 August 1967:

Solomon's House: Debunking "Ben-Gurion on Pakistan"

thanks for the links about Saiful Azam.

But the part about David Ben Gurion is not beyond doubt.Even the link that you have provided questions its authenticity.There is infact no documentation of such comments by David Ben Gurion.
Even if it was so,I guess it would have found justification from the point of view of a PM defending his own nation.
How? You see the 6 day war was fought between 5-10 June,1967.This comment is claimed to have been made on 9 August,1967.Now we cannot blame the PM of a country for verbally attacking another country with which they were involved in an act of war,can we?

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@ In those days Pakistan got the contract with Syria/Jordern to train their pilot. So many Pakistani pilots were stationed there. Once war broke out from the request of the King Hossain/Assad these pilots joined the war out of "Jose". Infact, legally they cannot.

Thats one absurd reasoning.You train somebody,now that does not mean that you have to fight their war too,until and unless the country providing the training offers to do so,willingly.The personnel of armed forces of a country cannot just 'decide' to fight for some other cause,unless they want to branded as mercenaries.

 

[Alchemy]

Same applies to Pak's love affair with china .... Imagine what happens to the ant when an even mightier dragon rolls over on the ant !!!!

Pak , India ,Bangladesh,Srilanka and Nepal should all work together .... Saarc should be encouraged and the way forward !

 

[wind]

BD People Illegally cross the fence to come to India but get gunned down many times taken for a smuggler.

How can BD complain about such Killings? Thats what any country would do if someone is trying to cross the border.

 

[Bombay Dude]

How can BD complain about such Killings? Thats what any country would do if someone is trying to cross the border.

The Funny Rhetoric is BD blames India that it is killing it's People!

They even refuse to own their people's body.

 

[my2cents]

Tahmima Anam
The Guardian


The troubles began almost from the start. After intervening in the war, the Indian army did what armies do - they behaved like victorious soldiers. Pakistan did not surrender to Bangladesh - the treaty signed on December 16 1971 was between an Indian general and a Pakistani general. Suddenly the war that Bangladeshi freedom fighters had been waging became yet another skirmish between the two elder children of partition. And those same freedom fighters were forced to surrender their arms to the Indian troops. It was a symbolic wound that would fester. The bear-hug began to feel like a stranglehold.

Tahmima anam

I did not know that these freedom fighters were forced to surrender the weapons. But if you look at it another angle don't you guys think that it was a good move. If you remember what a mess they created in Afghanistan after the Soviet downfall in 1989, with Taliban touting weapons and shooting each other. Pakistan still hasn't recovered when these same Jihadi groups turned against the state.

 

[Avisheik]

How can BD complain about such Killings? Thats what any country would do if someone is trying to cross the border.

Singapore doesnt do it, vietnam doesnt do it, annnd the list goes on.....

 

[crimemaster_gogo]

He is saying it is INDIA THAT HAS PROBLEMS WITH MOST OF ITS NEIGHBOURS LIKE CHINA, PAKISTAN , BANGLADESH, NEPAL AND SRI LANKA, BUT THESE COUNTRIES DO NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH EACH OTHER.

do you see India having any conflicts with taiwan, Japan, south Korea, Vietnam, Philippines? do we have problem with Myanmar? problems with Afghanistan or Iran ? stop portraying us as culprits, advice us when you guys are sane enough.

 

[Avisheik]

I did not know that these freedom fighters were forced to surrender the weapons. But if you look at it another angle don't you guys think that it was a good move. If you remember what a mess they created in Afghanistan after the Soviet downfall in 1989, with Taliban touting weapons and shooting each other. Pakistan still hasn't recovered when these same Jihadi groups turned against the state.

Valid point. But you have to remember that the muktis did have a central commander and political leader as well. They wouldnt have gone off killing each other like the afghans. The freedom fighters can be split into two groups. Mukti bahini(mostly ex pakistani military) and Gono bahini(civilian who took up arms). The mukti bahini could have kept the arms safely as they are mostly trained soldiers.

 

[nForce]

Singapore doesnt do it, vietnam doesnt do it, annnd the list goes on.....

They welcome illegal immigrants with garlands and sweets?

 

[monitor]

Once we saw Indian as a savior but when we realized they are **** we give up our honeymoon with Indian. India can revive iuts positions among general Bangladeshi only by showing true friendship not big brother attitude . we give up Pakistan defy the rule of pindi not to become a vessel state .

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They welcome illegal immigrants with garlands and sweets?

They do not kill them either

 

[idune]

Indians are taught by their media and politicians about myth that india is honey pot and there are floks of illegals from Bangladesh pouring in. All these baseless indian myth are just disguise for hate and fundamentalism against its own Bengali speaking Muslim population.