How a tiny city-state became a military powerhouse with the best air force and navy in Southeast Asi

[Reashot Xigwin]

About your last statement, I think you are talking about PLA in the 50s...

The PLA soldiers are technically government employees & they have more restriction compared to othetr contemporary armies in how they operate. They are however became more modernized over the years & starting to employ american style training into their regiment. This may have discounting effects on the PLA's effectiveness but not by much.

The same cannot be said with the VPA.

 

[EpiiC]

SG might buy F-35.... making it even more difficult to achieve air superiority over them.

 

[Kai Liu]

The PLA soldiers are technically government employees & they have more restriction compared to othetr contemporary armies in how they operate. They are however became more modernized over the years & starting to employ american style training into their regiment. This may have discounting effects on the PLA's effectiveness but not by much.

The same cannot be said with the VPA.

If China's military strength are comparable to Singapore, there will be no giant nation China.
If Singapore's military strength are comparable to China, there will be no city state Singapore.
You know what I mean?

And of course I wish the ethnic Chinese dominated country Singapore all the best to become stronger and stronger. It will be the best thing for the ethnic Chinese in the whole SE Asia, same as a stronger China for all the Chinese worldwide...

So Let's not waste our precious time on some obvious but focus on SG vs VN, shall we?

 

[jhungary]

Special forces

This guy got a USA Naval Sea badge.

That is a BUD/S Course badge, it is the pre-cursor to being an US Navy SEAL (The original article have got it wrong, said he is qualified as a SEAL) To become an US Navy SEAL (Or pass their rating) those sailor would also have to pass a SQT (SEAL Qualification Training) before being given a Naval Special Warfare (NSW) rating.

The relationship is like Ranger School and US Army Ranger, if you pass the Ranger School, they will give you a ranger tab, but by no mean that you are in the Ranger Fraternity, to be a US Army Ranger, you need to also pass the Ranger Selection Course.

Exactly right.

And those "teeth" that it has are all vulnerable to the USA's kill-switch. The fat orange monkey in the White House presses one button and all their teeth fall out.

If US weapon have kill switch and the "fat orange monkey" whatever that is can press one button then all their teeth fall off, then please explain to me how China can still fly the S-70 bought from the US in the 1980s and How Iran still flew F-4 and F-14 they bought from the US before the Shah of Iran? And how the Taliban can still shot down US chopper using FIM-92 the CIA gave them in 1980 in the mujahedeen days?

Are US only sell weapon with the big red "stop" button to allies not to the enemy lol?

To begin, how exactly you can put a kill switch on something you did not own and can disable it with the press of 1 single button? The most remote way I can think of is for US not to upgrade the source code for the people who bought their weapon, but still those weapon would still work even without source code upgrade.

Please do explain how you can disable someone else weapon with pressing a single button? I am intrigued .

 

[Yingluck]

That is a BUD/S Course badge, it is the pre-cursor to being an US Navy SEAL (The original article have got it wrong, said he is qualified as a SEAL) To become an US Navy SEAL (Or pass their rating) those sailor would also have to pass a SQT (SEAL Qualification Training) before being given a Naval Special Warfare (NSW) rating.

The relationship is like Ranger School and US Army Ranger, if you pass the Ranger School, they will give you a ranger tab, but by no mean that you are in the Ranger Fraternity, to be a US Army Ranger, you need to also pass the Ranger Selection Course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_SEAL_selection_and_training

I beg to differ.

Graduation from SQT culminates in the awarding of the coveted Navy SEAL Trident

 

[Mista]

Special forces

Look at their tabs/badges. These guys are probably just normal infantrymen, not special forces.

Do Singaporean leaders consider the USA to be their ancestral homeland? Do they think they are related to Donald Trump by blood? The destiny of Singapore and their shiny American toys is in the hands of a Alt-Right white supremacist in Washington with orange skin.

Tell me, what happens when Singapore's white American overlords decide to hit the kill-switch on Singapore's weapon systems, at the moment when Malaysia and Indonesia decide to swallow their island city?

The ancestors of Singaporeans must be so disappointed that after all their struggles, their destiny is in the hands of foreign white supremacists in Washington USA.

So what do you suggest Singapore to do given our size and circumstances? Should we just just whine that the world is cruel and be submissive towards injustice like other ethnic Chinese in our neighboring countries?

The US has the most advanced weapons. Should we let race cloud our judgement and not buy advanced weapons from the US just because they are of a different race, and compromise Singapore's defence capabilities when technology is arguably our only major advantage we can leverage on given our size? What did the same race China did for ethnic Chinese in SEA when they are getting discriminated, banned for even having Chinese names, looted, raped, burned and massacred?

China's cautious response to the issue caused an uproar among human rights groups. Following protests at the Indonesian embassy in Beijing in August, Foreign Minister Tang Jiaxuan made a direct appeal to the Indonesian government to ensure the protection of Chinese Indonesian communities.[63] During a visit to Jakarta in November, Chinese Premier Jiang Zemin said that "Chinese Indonesians will not only serve ... the long term stability of Indonesia, but also ... the smooth development of the relationship of friendly cooperation with neighboring countries."[61] China claims they have also urged airlines to operate 3 more flights out of Indonesia which transported some 200 Chinese person away from Jakarta.[64] The riots became known in China as "Black May" (黑色的五月), named after a VCD documentary of the events released by the China Radio and Television Publishing House in October.[65]Compared to China's approach, the Taiwanese government took on a more active role in demanding the trial of those involved in the violence and protection for victims. It threatened to withdraw investments from the country, estimated at US$13 billion in 1998, and block the entry of Indonesian workers, whose population in Taiwan had reached 15,000. Taiwan justified the threats "based on the principles of protecting overseas Chinese and protecting human rights". On 9 August, Minister of Investment Hamzah Haz flew to Taiwan and apologised for the violence while promoting Indonesia as an investment destination. At the same time, a Taiwan delegation met with Wiranto, who was then the Defence Minister under Habibie, as well as several other government ministers.

Singapore wouldn't even survive, much less prospered, if we weren't pragmatic.

 

[j20blackdragon]

I dont think it is ready yet. This is a large system engineering. Liaoning is a traiing boat.

Yes yes, the Liaoning and the entire armada surrounding the aircraft carrier are all training boats.

And this is the second training carrier.

It is widely suspected that F15SG, not F16 (maybe there is also) in RSAF has harpoon option. Cant verify now. Singapore tends to hide her capabilities.

Widely suspected (according to you...) but zero hard evidence.

 

[Mista]

And of course I wish the ethnic Chinese dominated country Singapore all the best to become stronger and stronger. It will be the best thing for the ethnic Chinese in the whole SE Asia, same as a stronger China for all the Chinese worldwide...

True enough.

Not just Chinese, but the rest of Asia too for the long-term prosperity and stability of the region. Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia etc.

 

[jhungary]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_SEAL_selection_and_training

I beg to differ.

Graduation from SQT culminates in the awarding of the coveted Navy SEAL Trident

Lol, I don't know the story about the Brandon Choo, but the article said he attended BUD/S and not SQT and BUD/S is not the same as SQT. And people who passed BUD/S is qualified as clearance diver, not SEAL, even tho clearance diver is still a part of NSW community. But you said he has a naval SEAL badge (That is a NSW operator badge not SEAL patch), and he is not a seal yet if he only passed the BUD/S course.

That is the same as I start calling myself a Ranger when I only have attended Ranger School (I indeed attended and graduate from ranger school).

He may have attended SQT later on, but that was not mentioned in the article.

 

[Yingluck]

Lol, I don't know the story about the Brandon Choo, but the article said he attended BUD/S and not SQT and BUD/S is not the same as SQT. And people who passed BUD/S is qualified as clearance diver, not SEAL, even tho clearance diver is still a part of NSW community. But you said he has a naval SEAL badge (That is a NSW operator badge not SEAL patch), and he is not a seal yet if he only passed the BUD/S course.

That is the same as I start calling myself a Ranger when I only have attended Ranger School (I indeed attended and graduate from ranger school).

He may have attended SQT later on, but that was not mentioned in the article.

You dont get a budweiser without SQT.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

The US has the most advanced weapons. Should we let race cloud our judgement and not buy advance weapons from the US just because they are of a different race, and compromise Singapore's defence capabilities when technology is arguably our only major advantage we can leverage on given our size? What did the same race China did for ethnic Chinese in SEA when they are getting discriminated, banned for even having Chinese names, looted, raped, burned and massacred?

Check who used the term "race traitor" first, it was a Singaporean member called Yingluck.

I have no problem with Singapore choosing the USA over their own ancestral motherland, they already chose that a long time ago. But to call Chinese who defend China as race traitors is just too ironic.

 

[Yingluck]

Look at their tabs/badges. These guys are probably just normal infantrymen, not special forces.





So what do you suggest Singapore to do given our size and circumstances? Should we just just whine that the world is cruel and be submissive towards injustice like other ethnic Chinese in our neighboring countries?

The US has the most advanced weapons. Should we let race cloud our judgement and not buy advance weapons from the US just because they are of a different race, and compromise Singapore's defence capabilities when technology is arguably our only major advantage we can leverage on given our size? What did the same race China did for ethnic Chinese in SEA when they are getting discriminated, banned for even having Chinese names, looted, raped, burned and massacred?



Singapore wouldn't even survive, much less prospered, if we weren't pragmatic.

These guys are wearing 3rd div. So they are infantry. You are right.

Check who used the term "race traitor" first, it was a Singaporean member called Yingluck.

I have no problem with Singapore choosing the USA over their own ancestral motherland, they already chose that a long time ago. But to call Chinese who defend China as race traitors is just too ironic.

Too many race traitor in China.

You do......actually.....

Maybe you forward me the source. Let me check. I am not aware of this.

 

[jhungary]

You dont get a budweiser without SQT.

You do......actually.....

 

[Mista]

Check who used the term "race traitor" first, it was a Singaporean member called Yingluck.

Ignore him. He has a long history of trolling and baiting using race.

 

[Yingluck]

Ignore him. He has a long history of trolling and baiting using race.

I can easily give thousands example of red/rich 2-3 generation of race traitors from China, land of race traitors.

I love China most. So I want to tell them the truth.