Hong Kong's Chinese loyalists make their voices heard | ABC News

[haidian]

Also @haidian

A chinese member posted here that PDF was blocked in China so there are only 3 ways you are here.

1. You are in China but using illegal VPN (which means you are breaking Chinese law)
2. You are in China and are using legal VPN but that means you are an employee of the state (50 cent army?)
3. You are not in China but are using your personal freedom in what ever country you are in to defend censorship and loss of rights for HK people.

So you want to talk about me instead of this thread, I m not in mood in talking about PDF users, but still, sorry, we are gonna do what we think is right to do in Hong kong, your advice is politely refused.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

You didn't answer a single question or point of mine.

Look man, I am not your enemy but you have to realize that in the rest of the world people are allowed to have opinions and are not forced to only think the way the government wants.

In Canada the state media is allowed to interview pro China individuals

Can you do the same in the mainland?


I can and will support people aspiring democratic freedoms. But I also want to be a friend to China so in my good willed opinion, China should just let HK exercise democracy and keep the two systems policy.

The main grievance was being able to try seditionists under mainland law. What's wrong with that?

But that move has now been officially scrapped by HK's govt. So the remaining protesters simply want independence outright. China is right to clamp down on them. They are an aggressive minority who seem to focus heavily on some evangelical extremist agenda. No nation should tolerate such blind bible bashing evangelical trash. The majority of Hong kongers want to be with China. The megachurches can't stand that defeat of Christianity by communists, but really, they need to get used to it. The seditionists are beyond desperate now, having been exposed when their demands for scrapping of the extradition bill were actually met by Beijing. They are still whining, singing USA anthem and beating up old men.

 

[haidian]

They are still whining, singing USA anthem and beating up old men.

And British anthem, but no one can save their queen in Hong kong, their queen is dying with old age anyway.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

And British anthem, but no one can save their queen in Hong kong, their queen is dying with old age anyway.

Pathetic really. Britain and USA officially have said nothing. Their media talks a vast amount of trash but officially they are virtually mute. In my opinion, this is because of the unseen strength of China's economic power.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Pathetic really. Britain and USA officially have said nothing. Their media talks a vast amount of trash but officially they are virtually mute. In my opinion, this is because of the unseen strength of China's economic power.

From my observing, the UK didn't participate much in this crisis, however, the USA is totally different where they participate both officially and secretly.

 

[Beast]

Also @haidian

A chinese member posted here that PDF was blocked in China so there are only 3 ways you are here.

1. You are in China but using illegal VPN (which means you are breaking Chinese law)
2. You are in China and are using legal VPN but that means you are an employee of the state (50 cent army?)
3. You are not in China but are using your personal freedom in what ever country you are in to defend censorship and loss of rights for HK people.

You think there is really freedom of right and press in western countries?
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/22/tech/youtube-china-hong-kong/index.html

Tell me is what youtube doing really objective? Blocking based on VPN? LOL...

I always have a laugh when some claim about the freedom of press in west they can enjoy? They only allow you to enjoy if they deem it suits you.

The video you post is nothing pro China , it just speaks the truth about violent of HK protest. See how the journalist ask the last few question. Its nothing pro China. Canadian government only allow you to see what they want you to see. Have Canadian media show any video that properly explained the true meaning of extradition law for HK? No... none.

From my observing, the UK didn't participate much in this crisis, however, the USA is totally different where they participate both officially and secretly.

It just one wishful thinking from those trash HKer trying to rejoin UK. Actually, China takeover HK at the wrong time.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Another got beaten up because of different opinion.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=3115232618518089

Yesterday in the Mall

https://www.facebook.com/

This one just left the Pro China gathering and was suspected to take picture of the BT

https://www.facebook.com/

Lastly, I just want to say the above incidents didn't make into News, most of the similar videos are recorded by people who against the BT from the Live. While the mainstream News are too busy broadcasting the 7/22 the train incident and 8/31 roit police beating inside the train repeatedly.

 

[Nan Yang]

To my Chinese friends, what I want to know is why are you guys so keen to take away freedoms from HK?
HK is a world class city, let them have their freedom and just maintain the two systems policy.

It will be terrible for both China and HK if China tries to claw back rights and freedoms of people who have been used to them for their entire lives.

Mainlanders are not used to the freedoms so maybe they will not understand.

First of all. Beijing has done nothing. Proof to us Beijing has done anything to Hong Kong.
Beijing did not initiate the extradiction bill. Beijing has not interfere in Hong Kong. Not even the PLA that are stationed in Hong Kong has done anything. What Beijing has done is honoring the one country two system and the basic law.
It's the Western countries that are funding and interfering in Hong Kong.

You keep ignoring the fact that the radicals protesters agenda is actually to overthrow the Hong Kong government. Carrie Lam has apologize and withdrawn the bill. Carrie Lam has asked for a dialogue. But the radicals only demand more and increased the violence. It is obvious that they want to overthrow the Hong Kong government.

The radicals will try to drag Beijing in. They will try to link Beijing to proof Beijing is interfering no matter how insignificant to justify to their Western masters to intervene.

Why are you ignoring the obvious?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

You think there is really freedom of right and press in western countries?
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/22/tech/youtube-china-hong-kong/index.html

Tell me is what youtube doing really objective? Blocking based on VPN? LOL...

I always have a laugh when some claim about the freedom of press in west they can enjoy? They only allow you to enjoy if they deem it suits you.

The video you post is nothing pro China , it just speaks the truth about violent of HK protest. See how the journalist ask the last few question. Its nothing pro China. Canadian government only allow you to see what they want you to see. Have Canadian media show any video that properly explained the true meaning of extradition law for HK? No... none.


It just one wishful thinking from those trash HKer trying to rejoin UK. Actually, China takeover HK at the wrong time.

You're right. What folks in the west unfortunately forget is the fact that selective presentation of news equates to censorship of news. We are trained to think we are "free", whatever that means. In reality we are shown certain news items and not others, Which has the same net effect as fake news even.

 

[haidian]

 

[Mista]

Lol I saw someone sharing this:

And from a pro-CCP newspaper?

 

[haidian]

Lol I saw someone sharing this:

And from a pro-CCP newspaper?

Kind of wonder why they didn't ask for a general election during the British rule, they didn't enjoy any kind of elections during that time and now they sing God save the queen, no one can save their queen in China.

 

[Mista]

Kind of wonder why they didn't ask for a general election during the British rule, they didn't enjoy any kind of elections during that time and now they sing God save the queen, no one can save their queen in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong_Kong

 

[bbccdd1470]

Lol I saw someone sharing this:

And from a pro-CCP newspaper?

For my understanding, the banner was set up by a different group of people the day before.

 

[haidian]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_development_in_Hong_Kong

Did their queen give them a congress and allow them to choose their own leaders? Stockholm syndrome, nothing more.