Holbrooke sees Pakistan as the problem!

[DarkStar]

Holbrooke sees FATA as the problem

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: Richard Holbrooke, the American special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, looked uncharacteristically shaken, the Wall Street Journal has claimed, after meeting several Pakistani young men who told him hatred for the United States and sympathy for the Taliban were growing in the Tribal Areas they came from.

Holbrooke and Admiral Mullen were in Islamabad to explain the new American policy for the region.

Holbrooke, according to the paper, acknowledges the hardest work will be in Pakistan.

“Pakistan is at the centre of our strategic concerns,” he is quoted as saying, while on his way from Islamabad to New Delhi. “If Afghanistan had the best government on earth, a remained as today. That is an undisputable fact, and that is the core of the dilemma that the Western nations, the NATO alliance, face today.”

Asked why the US is fighting the Afghan Taliban, if Al Qaeda and Taliban leadership are in Pakistan, Holbrooke says: “[T]he reason for fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan is clear: The Taliban are the frontrunners for Al Qaeda. If they succeed in Afghanistan, without any shadow of a doubt, Al Qaeda would move back into Afghanistan, set up a larger presence, recruit more people and pursue its objectives against the United States even more aggressively.” Public support for the expanded US Afghan mission hinges on making this case stick.

Holbrooke insists the US will respect Pakistan’s “red lines” about American combat troops.

But he said, “If the Tribal Areas of western Pakistan were not a sanctuary, I believe that Afghanistan could take care of itself within a relatively short period of time.”

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[sohailbutt]

All signs point Pakistan as the next US target, so the concept of "enemy ally" is finally proven, it is time for some hardliner like Iranian President to come at the front line from Pakistan, no more US puppet's.

 

[DarkStar]

It looks like a case is being built...The publc perception in the West is already very much softened towards an eventual attack on Pakistan. They couldn't give two hoots.

The first step is always to demonise the opponent, because nobody wants to be seen killing 'normal' and 'peaceful' citizens of any country.

 

[AliFarooq]

to the 5.7 billion people on earth America is the problem for everything.

maybe i should minus the population of india also.

 

[qsaark]

For those who dont know the backgorund of Hollbrook:

ACCOMPLICE IN THE GENOCIDE IN BOSNIA

SARAJEVO, Bosnia (August 4th,2008) - According to a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law and an attorney for the Bosnian association of genocide survivors from the eastern Bosnian town of Srebrenica "the Mothers of Srebrenica" professor Francis A. Boyle, Richard Holbrook, who was Assistant U.S. Secretary of State in mid 90s, had a collusion with Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic, who has been charged by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) with genocide, extermination, murder, deportation, inhumane acts, and other crimes against Bosnian civilians,committed during the 1992-1995 Serbian aggression against Bosnia.

"All evidence and records at hand indicate that Holbrooke was an accomplice in the genocide," the lawyer told the Azerbaijani Trend News Agency.

“But certainly Holbrooke aided and abetted war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide and ethnic cleansing by Karadzic against the Bosnians,” Boyle, who was official juridical advisor for Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic and the representative of Bosnian Government at the International Court, said.

On 31 July, speaking to the Hague Tribunal,Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic, stated there is an agreement between him and Holbrook, former representative of the United Stated in the UN, who is very often "credited" to be the architect of the 1995 Dayton Peace Agreement,but should be actually fully credited for helping the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor commit genocide against Bosnians by ,first of all,supporting the criminal arms embargo against Bosnian government that left Bosnia and the Bosnian people without basic means to protect themselves during the 1992-1995 Serbian,Montenegrin and Croatian aggressions against Bosnia and by forcing the Bosnian leaders in 1995 to "legalize" the genocidal Serbian fascist creature in Bosnia "RS".

“In 1996, Holbrooke proposed me to abandon the public life and the United States would fulfil its obligations instead,” said Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic.

U.S. State Department denied the statement. According to an official of the U.S. State Department Sean McCormack, Holbrooke did not conclude any agreement with Karadzic.

However,lots of facts prove there was an agreement between American fascist Richard Holbrooke and Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic.

Brother of Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic, Luka Karadzic confirmed there is a bygone agreement between Karadzic and Holbrooke, Interfax, a Russian non-governmental news agency ,reported.

Boyle is confident there is much truth in Karadzic’s statement.

“Of course I was not privy to any personal conversations between Holbrooke and Karadzic. But certainly Holbrooke aided and abetted war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide and ethnic cleansing by Karadzic against the Bosnians,” Boyle said.

“Holbrooke should be on trial in The Hague with Karadzic as an accomplice in the genocide,” he said.

Moreover, the attorney is confident the same is true for Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Kofi Annan, Yasushi Akashi, David Owen, Thorvald Stoltenberg, and Carl Bildt.

Boyle said it would be very inconvenient for all of these individuals and their Masters for Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic to defend himself they way he apparently plans to do so.

"Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic knows everything about how Western ‘mediators’ promoted his crimes," said Boyle.

“So I will be keeping a close eye on these war crimes proceedings in order to use this new information against these people on behalf of my clients the Mothers of Srebrenica,” said Boyle.

The task of the Bosnian association of genocide survivors from the eastern Bosnian town of Srebrenica "the Mothers of Srebrenica" is to search for more than 10,000 Bosnian civilians from Srebrenica missing in European largest massacre, committed by the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor, on July 11, 1995.

The lawyer is sure that but he will be able to use his new information against these Western ‘mediators’ and diplomats in order to hold them accountable to his clients for the massacre.

“At the end of the day Karadzic will be spending the rest of his life in prison, where he should have been for quite some time in any event,” Boyle said.

Professor Boyle was the one who convinced the former ICTY Prosecutor Carla DelPonte to indict Serbian war criminal Slobodan Milosevic for every crime in the ICTY Statute, including genocide.

According to lawyer, earlier the arrest of Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic was undesirable, but possible for West.

"During the peace negotiations, Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic has been given visas to come and negotiate in Geneva. And in New York. The State Department let Karadzic come to New York to the Vance-Owen carve-up negotiations, with a US visa. The State Department was obliged under the Geneva Convention to apprehend Karadzic," Boyle said.

"The US had an absolute obligation to apprehend Karadzic if he showed up in New York, and to open an investigation, and to prosecute,instead, they're giving him a visa and secret service protection in New York," he said.

“They defended war criminals and those who committed genocide. These are big powers,” Boyle said.

 

[DarkStar]

Add another name to that list, the infamous Lords Owen and Hurd, now made a peer for his peerless efforts in Bosnia.

 

[IceCold]

Irony that as soon as Mr holbrooke and Admiral mullen got a tough stance from Pakistan, all of a sudden they have started to sees Pakistan as the problem, what next, they are leveling the grounds to justify US intervention in FATA, GOP needs to wake up and so does the opposition. Just stop the damn politics for one second and think about Pakistan other wise there wont be a Pakistan left to do politics.

 

[DarkStar]

Please, let's be reasonable.

Why do we always try to impress an urgent matter to do with Pakistan with the words "There wont be a Pakistan anymore" "Won't be a Pakistan left" "Pakistan will disintegrate" "Pakistan will divide".

Clearly, nothing of the sort is going to happen, so we should not freak out at every juncture, at every point in our history where we have to face severe threats.

 

[IceCold]

Keep living in denial and time will tell what happens with Nations who do not learn from their past. 71 was lost and what did we do absolutely nothing.

 

[Captain03]

another world war on it's way

 

[pakomar]

Of course Israel and their pets US saw problems in Pakistan because it is only Muslim country with nuclear weapons.
Iraq is already checked out .no more military strength in Middle East.
Afghanistan is in process. Got ruthless fighters.
Iran will be next after Pakistan because US will complete surround Iran form three sides.

 

[DarkStar]

There is a rapprochement between the USA and Iran on the cards. the Iran of the Ayatullah Khumeini was perceived as a threat to US interests, today's Iran is NOT.

Iran is the only country that has gained, strategically speaking, from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, installing Iran friendly regimes in both countries, who were at odds with Iran only 5 years ago.

US rhetoric on Iran has declined markedly, recently, and there are back channels negotiating a revival of relations. The recent construction of the heavy water based reactor in Iran is a part of Iran's ploy of getting as many concessions it can for normalising relations.

Pakistan is seen more of a threat, than any other country on earth.

 

[omerhhh]

another world war on it's way

No not a world war but a conflict between pk and U.S is plausible but then India might attack us too to support the U.S and then China might intervene maybe here will be a WW3.

 

[S-2]

We need a link with the article referencing Mr. Holbrooke from Qsaark.

Francis Boyle and the author engage in character assassination and do some from a dubious pretext.

“Of course I was not privy to any personal conversations between Holbrooke and Karadzic. But certainly Holbrooke aided and abetted war crimes, crimes against humanity, genocide and ethnic cleansing by Karadzic against the Bosnians,”

what's not included there but should be is,

"...or at least that's what Karadzic's brother told me..."

Boyle's reputation as a credible source is impossible given his pedigree.

Not to say Pakistan isn't a massive global security problem on the precipice of disaster...but that's a different matter.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

For that reason, I have writing for the last 7 years that pak army should have taken out al qaeda at the slopes of hindu kush mountains when they had the chance and oppurtunity. All foreigners and pak al qaeda should have been killed, the leadership neutralized---Bin Laden Al zawaheri and co---put to the sword. The chechens, the uzbeks, the somalis, the kenyans, the arabs, the yemenis, anyone related to that group should have been executed right at the boundary line.

If the U S didnot want to kill Bin Laden for obvious reasons---we should have realized and acknowledged the facts and should have had the vision to foresee what al qaeda would do in pakistan and what a living Bin laden could do to the cause.

So many of us talk about historical precedence in islamic history---about the shariah law as it was---but we all conveniently forget about what the rulers of those time did to those opposing the mainstream government.

Pakistanis have been living an illusion for the longest period of time---it was far away--it was someone else's problem---it has moved into the immediate viccinity now---it will go away---that is the thought process. It will not happen to me---we are all tired---maybe it is good to give up all our rights----people don't realize that life afterwards would not be of kindness and easy living.