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Historic surrender of the Indian Muslims

Tejo Mahalya theory has been thrown out by Supreme Court.

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That moron even wrote that Vatican City was Vatika Nagar or some such rubbish.

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Who cares what Tunisia or Lunaticia has done?

If some society has come up with progressive ideas, we should not hesitate in adopting them.

Do you think that's why jinnah wanted the TNT? Wow.

But that is the simple truth.
 
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I have been saying the same thing ( as this committee ) for many months on PDF. The Muslims of India should enable an atmosphere of goodwill by handing over the disputed site ( Babri Masjid ) to the Hindu groups vying for the site.

The Babri Mosque is not the holiest place for Muslims. Nor is it the oldest mosque in India ( in Kerala state, built in 629 AD ).

Apart from Babri there are two disputed mosque sites where it is claimed that they were built on Hindu temples. These two should be handed over.

However, all this handing over should be limited to these three. Claims like the Taj Mahal being a temple called Tejo Mahalaya should be considered by the Supreme Court as frivolous.



What is wrong in wanting peace ??



Is that a stealth statement against Sonia Gandhi and about the NRC issue ??



In True Islam, a mosque is not the most important of ideas, unlike in Conservative Hinduism where a temple is considered a place where a god or goddess is actually present.



You argue FOR the Two Nation Theory. But let me point out that the TNT was originally an idea of the Hindu Mahasabha and it was adopted by Jinnah after he saw that he in no way would get to become the PM of Unified India after Independence.
This idea was injected in Indian muslim.
 
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the whole ram mandir was concocted by a hindutva archaeologist called BB Lal, read some people questioning his excavation and report that there was a temple when the evidence is minimal. They have actually found an older mosque below babri mosque

regards
 
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I have been saying the same thing ( as this committee ) for many months on PDF. The Muslims of India should enable an atmosphere of goodwill by handing over the disputed site ( Babri Masjid ) to the Hindu groups vying for the site.

The Babri Mosque is not the holiest place for Muslims. Nor is it the oldest mosque in India ( in Kerala state, built in 629 AD ).

Apart from Babri there are two disputed mosque sites where it is claimed that they were built on Hindu temples. These two should be handed over.

However, all this handing over should be limited to these three. Claims like the Taj Mahal being a temple called Tejo Mahalaya should be considered by the Supreme Court as frivolous.



What is wrong in wanting peace ??



Is that a stealth statement against Sonia Gandhi and about the NRC issue ??



In True Islam, a mosque is not the most important of ideas, unlike in Conservative Hinduism where a temple is considered a place where a god or goddess is actually present.



You argue FOR the Two Nation Theory. But let me point out that the TNT was originally an idea of the Hindu Mahasabha and it was adopted by Jinnah after he saw that he in no way would get to become the PM of Unified India after Independence.





Where is the evidence that Jinnah wanted to be the indian prime-minister?
 
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Tejo Mahalya theory has been thrown out by Supreme Court. That moron even wrote that Vatican City was Vatika Nagar or some such rubbish.
But this idea is espoused by the Hindutva. The original architect of these theories is the Sanghi blue eyed boy, PN Oak...

many indians also claim the Kaaba...
yes, Makkah is actually Makkeshwar temple as per Hindu right...
 
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Now this depends on what was there first.
https://thewire.in/history/babri-masjid-asi-excavation-ayodhya-ram-temple

There is no evidence for many other ludicrous Sanghi claims as well.

You argue FOR the Two Nation Theory. But let me point out that the TNT was originally an idea of the Hindu Mahasabha and it was adopted by Jinnah after he saw that he in no way would get to become the PM of Unified India after Independence.
Jinnah was offered PM-ship by congress. He rejected!
Jinnah was suffering from TB and knew that he won't live long enough; so please spare us your congressi tripe.

Congress was an upper-caste Hindu majoritarian party hiding behind veneer of secularism. Jinnah saw through it's secular facade while your leaders were busy sniffing Nehru's posterior. Today, we are a nuclear power while all Indian Muslims have is their four parliamentarians in the Lok Sabha.

Indian Muslims are full citizens with full rights, they can also become the prime minister of India or take any other high office, unlike Pakistan that restricts non Muslims from high posts. Clear display of religious racism.
But this does not mean we take in people from other countries and make them Indian citizens.
You can give that piece of paper known as the Indian constitution to the Indian Muslims so that they can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. As of now, your equal citizens have just four out of 545 parliamentarians; you can come back and post when that piece of toilet paper translates into a reality.
Clear display of religious racism.
  • 1984 Delhi. 8000 Sikhs killed.
  • 1987 Meerut – PAC (a police unit) and Hindus killed almost 1000 Muslims (infamous Hashimpura including). PAC entered a Muslim village, burnt and killed around 200 Muslims and threw their bodies into a canal. A large scale genocide.
  • 1988 Muzaffarnagar (UP) - A peace committee was formed at Mr. Saiduz Zaman house. When they took out peace procession, it was attacked by a Hindu mob. 200 Muslims were killed.
  • In 1989, the mobilization campaign to construct the proposed Ram Temple at Ayodhya aggravated the communal atmosphere in the country. Later in 1990, Muslim massacres occurred in the wake of L.K.Advani’s Rath Yatra wherever it went. These massacres were led by RSS-BJP men. These were widespread over almost all the states from Assam to West Bengal, Bihar, Orissa, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Gujarat, Maharashtra, and Delhi.
  • 1989 Hazaribagh - Violence after Ram Navami procession, 100+ Muslims killed.
  • 1989 Kota - Violence after Hindu Chaturdashi procession, 22 Muslims killed. Dawoodi Bohras were the worst victims.
  • 1989 Badaun - 60+ Muslims killed. ABVP involved.
  • 1989 Indore - BJP, RSS and VHP took out Ram Temple Procession, and the situation turned into a Police vs Muslim confrontation. 50 Muslims were killed, many of them in police firing.
  • 1989 - 1990 Bhagalpur and 250 adjacent villages - The total Muslims killed are numbered around 1100, and more than 50,000 displaced. It started with Ram Shila Pujan procession. Entire Muslim villages were burnt and destroyed, trains were attacked.
  • 1990 Jaipur - After the Rath Yatra started, 52 Muslims killed and 144 injured. 1990 Jodhpur - BJP called for a Jodhpur bandh, 20 Muslims killed and 100+ injured.
  • 1990 Lucknow - After the Rath Yatra started, 33 Muslims killed. PAC actively involved in the massacre.
  • 1990 Agra - Due to the Rath Yatra, 22 similar incidents at different places. 31 Muslims killed and 69 injured. PAC actively involved in the massacre.
  • 1990 Kanpur - Muslim massacres thrice within a year. 30 Muslims killed. PAC actively Involved in the massacre.
  • 1990 Colonelganj (Gonda, UP) - During Durga Puja procession, provocative slogans were raised against Muslims and violence erupted and almost 300 Muslims were killed with the help of PAC.
  • 1990 Bijnor (UP) - After Kar Sevaks entered Ayodhya, a victory procession (Vijay Julus) was taken out in Bijnor, which entered the Muslim area and shouted provocative slogans against Muslims. Violence erupted and around 200 Muslims were killed with the help of PAC.
  • 1990 Aligarh - One train was stopped and Muslim passengers were killed. Violence in several other places in Aligarh, 150-200 Muslims killed.
  • 1990 Hailakandi, Assam – Hindutva temper began to rise as soon as VHP, RSS and BJP organized pujas to purify the bricks for Shilanyas at Ayodhya. At the time, the DM was a Muslim, a matter that RSS utilized in its favor. 37 Muslims killed.
  • 1990 Patna - Around 100+ Muslims killed, houses and shops burnt and Mosques damaged; large scale damage to property.
  • 1990 Hassan, Mandya, Madikeri and Mysore, Karnataka - 60 Muslims killed.
  • 1990 Hyderabad- After Babri Mosque demolition, the massacres took place in and around Hyderabad, in which 300+ Muslims were killed and lots of properties were damaged.
  • April 1990 to April 1991 Gujarat: Approx 1520 communal incidents in a single year, 262 Muslims killed and 945 injured.
  • 1990 Ahmedabad (soon after the Rath Yatra started) 41 Muslims killed. There are 100+ other incidents where less than 10 Muslims were killed.
  • 1991 Baroda, UP - 24 Muslims killed.
  • 1991 Banaras, UP - Kali religious procession entered a Muslim locality, slogans were shouted. Rumors spread that the idol was broken by the Muslims. More than 50 Muslims killed.
  • 1991 Saharanpur, UP - Ram Navmi procession related. 40 Muslims killed. Some of them killed in Police firing.
  • 1992 Sitamarhi, Bihar - Religious procession taken out, anti-Muslim slogans shouted, violence erupted. 44 Muslims killed.
  • 1991 Baroda, Surat - Just like every year in Gujarat, communal massacres are going on. 46 Muslims killed. It's like a routine.
  • 1992 Surat - A bandh was called by a Muslim organization. The Muslim shops were attacked by Hindu groups. Around 200-300 Muslims were killed, and lots of industries of Muslims were destroyed.
  • 1992 Ahmedabad - Jagannath Rath Yatra, violence, massacre. 27 Muslims killed.
  • 1992 - 1993 Mumbai - 1000+ Muslims Killed. Most of the people were killed in police firing. It was a massacre of Muslims on large scale. 30/n
  • 1992 Bhopal - 142 Muslims killed and 30,000 displaced (34 shot dead by police). 1992 Delhi - Almost 100 Muslims killed.
(The list excludes the one which made Modi popular all across the globe)
Islamic Pakistan could never match these atrocities against minorities in either scale or frequency.

Where is the evidence that Jinnah wanted to be the indian prime-minister?
Congress' tripe is a solid evidence for Indian sarkari Muslims.

In reality, the evidence is to the contrary - Jinnah rejected PM-ship offer made by the congress.
 
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They should change there religion ..... In my personal experience ..Indian muslims argue that Quaid shouldn't create the Pakistan..... I just laugh and walk away..........

The biggest psychological dilemma and contradiction of the present day Indian Muslims is that they despise Quaid e Azam, but at the same time are looking for one, who can guide them, politically, in their precarious conditions. But, unfortunately, people like Quaid are born once in centuries.
 
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The biggest psychological dilemma and contradiction of the present day Indian Muslims is that they despise Quaid e Azam, but at the same time are looking for one, who can guide them, politically, in their precarious conditions. But, unfortunately, people like Quaid are born once in centuries.
Actually, Indian muslims and hindus love to engage me in historic facts, when I tell em , am Pakistani. You guys have no idea what are the perceptions exist about the creation of Pakistan. I can write a book . But, I don't like writing long response. Readers lose interest in long response. We have living example of JUIF in Pakistan, which is part of JUI Hind , still doesn't accept the creation of Pakistan.
But, Indian muslims are very sad story.
 
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Do you think that's why jinnah wanted the TNT? Wow. The Koolaid is strong in hinduville.

This is one of the most ridiculous proposition. It implies that Quaid e Azam, who joined practical politics in 1906, didn't ascribe to the "Two Nation Theory" till 1940, since he was hopeful of becoming PM of independent India, in future, during whole of this 34 years.:o::o::o:

And, when he realized in 1940 that he cannot become PM of future independent India, he adopted this theory.:lol::lol::lol:

Stupidity has no limits.

Why don't hindus show this good will gesture?

Throughout their history, elite Hindus have amply demonstrated their goodwill, when they were thoroughly thrashed and screwed.:lol:
 
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