Hindus are the most “decent” and “tolerant” majority in the world. : Javed Akhtar

[Kuru]

But on serious note, in history India always welcome other nations. And there rulers had code of ethics and morality. But now , its all evaporated.
Plus Javed Akhtar type people only deal with certain type of educated class and doesn't live in some kind of slum.

I think educated class have more religious fanatics. I hope I am wrong.

May be its certain kinda education / training/ brainwashing that teaches that my culture / religion / society is better than yours; I am superior because I follow certain things and others are inferior.

May be we should ban all such teachings altogether. Let's set ourselves free.

 

[Kuru]

Celebrity Muslims have no option in India, except to polish the bollocks of Hindutvadis, Sanghis and "Chaddi Dhaaris".

Seems Javed Akhtar does have an option to criticize RSS and VHP etc. And that's exactly what he did. You are not paying attention.

 

[HAIDER]

what do you mean by "welcome", throughout history whenever raiders came only potohar (where most pop of Punjab resided at the time) used to stand up (that's why the fighting clans are concentrated around north Punjab, cause that's all they did for 1000-1500 years, farm and fight of raiders trying to fend of starvation, and most often than not the only line of defense for north India as after that point on ganga capitulated like the ANA, it was like the GOT wall against white walkers )

If that region got ran over, more often than not It was game over for north, central India except for some pockets of resistance

So they had no option but to welcome them with ethics and all that bs...,

I am not talking about raiders who came to raid their land. I am here talking about merchants and travelers., historians. Arabs merchants have been coming to that region for thousands of years .. traces all along the coast of Malabar and South Indian coastal land.

 

[SIPRA]

But on serious note, in history India always welcome other nations. And there rulers had code of ethics and morality. .....

Jab Gaaf lagi phatnay
Tau parsad laga batnay

 

[HAIDER]

I think educated class have more religious fanatics. I hope I am wrong.

May be its certain kinda education / training/ brainwashing that teaches that my culture / religion / society is better than yours; I am superior because I follow certain things and others are inferior.

May be we should ban all such teachings altogether. Let's set ourselves free.

India is a land of 600 dialects and hundreds of cultures and every culture has its own school of thought. How much you can change ?? .. Security situation is always under question because of the population bomb. Resources are extremely limited. People have no motivation for social changes.

Jab Gaaf lagi phatnay
Tau parsad laga batnay

My friend I work with Indians and I respect them. I am not a hypocrite. They respect me bing a Pakistani and i respect them. But again I deal with the educated class. Behind me what they say, it's not my business. And its reality, from UAE commerce and banking sector to KSA medical field. You will see all Hindu and hardly any Indian Muslims. They are only found in labor jobs. We are far behind in education.
Anyway dear brother, we can change the friends but not neighbors. I have seen Indian Muslims in US and Canada. You won't like what they think about Pakistani.

 

[jamahir]

One of the leading Shia Muslim leaders and scholars in India, Dr Syed Rizwan Ahmed hear him out

"BJP IS THE MOST tolerant political party of the world ever "

https://twitter.com/x/status/1438488420213407745

Muslims are unsafe only in countries where they are in majority: Syed Rizwan Ahmed

Muslims are unsafe only in countries where they are in majority: Syed Rizwan Ahmed

Syed Rizwan Ahmed blamed the unhealthy association between Muslim clergy and Muslim intellectuals for pushing Indian Muslims away from the mainstream.

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@jamahir

Dr. Syed Rizwan Ahmed should have been present in one Delhi Hindutvadi crowd early 2020 where BJP leader and central government minister Anurag Thakur directed his listeners to "Goli maaro saalon ko" when talking of Muslim and non-Muslim protesters against the CAA act. Or should be in the presence of another BJP leader Sadhvi Pragya who was involved in the bombing of Muslim areas in Malegaon in 2006 and still doesn't repent for it. Or be in the presence of another BJP leader Yogi Adityanath, CM of Uttar Pradesh, who amongst other things against Muslims is busy changing Muslim-sounding names of the cities of his state while children and older persons in his state are dying of dengue because of the pathetic state of hospitals there. Also to mention those lynchings of Muslims that become known, mostly recently the near-lynching of a bangle seller in MP and of a beggar family in Rajasthan, all of this sadly tolerated by BJP. Should all this be continued ?

 

[Maira La]

Hindus are the only people who treat their own kind as subhumans (lower castes) and thus inspired Nazism. They are the only kind who sold their women to temples to get raped and abused (temple prostitution). They tortured and taxed low castes women for not exposing boobs (Breast Tax). They threw widows into fire before Muslims stopped it (Sati). They are the only kind of people who lynch others to death for eating the wrong food. The list is endless.

 

[HAIDER]

Hindus are the only people who treat their own kind as subhumans (lower castes) and thus inspired Nazism. They are the only kind who sold their women to temples to get raped and abused (temple prostitution). They tortured and taxed low castes women for not exposing boobs (Breast Tax). They threw widows into fire before Muslims stopped it (Sati). They are the only kind of people who lynch others to death for eating the wrong food. The list is endless.

when religion is mixed with superstition .. the outcome is always a mess.

Dr. Syed Rizwan Ahmed should have been present in one Delhi Hindutvadi crowd early 2020 where BJP leader and union minister Anurag Thakur directed his listeners to "Goli maaro saalon ko" when talking of Muslims. Or should be in the presence of another BJP leader Sadhvi Pragya who was involved in the bombing of Muslim areas in Malegaon in 2006 and still doesn't repent for it. Or be in the presence of another BJP leader Yogi Adityanath, CM of Uttar Pradesh, who amongst other things against Muslims is busy changing Muslim-sounding names of the cities of his state while children and older persons in his state are dying of dengue because of the pathetic state of hospitals there. Also to mention those lynchings of Muslims that become known, mostly recently the near-lynching of a bangle seller in MP and of a beggar family in Rajasthan, all of this sadly tolerated by BJP. Should all this be continued ?

Modi will keep it continues, it suits him and his party.

 

[Maira La]

when religion is mixed with superstition .. the outcome is always a mess.

Well if you take the superstition away what remains of Hinduism? Muslims and British already diluted Hinduism to it's current form by banning a lot of practices. At this point ending Hinduism is very easy, if any outside force is able to end caste system, it's backbone, that's the end of Hinduism.

 

[Maula Jatt]

India is a land of 600 dialects and hundreds of cultures and every culture has its own school of thought. How much you can change ?? .. Security situation is always under question because of the population bomb. Resources are extremely limited. People have no motivation for social changes.

My friend I work with Indians and I respect them. I am not a hypocrite. They respect me bing a Pakistani and i respect them. But again I deal with the educated class. Behind me what they say, it's not my business. And its reality, from UAE commerce and banking sector to KSA medical field. You will see all Hindu and hardly any Indian Muslims. They are only found in labor jobs. We are far behind in education.
Anyway dear brother, we can change the friends but not neighbors. I have seen Indian Muslims in US and Canada. You won't like what they think about Pakistani.

dehumanize you, ask for your nations ruin, want your killings
stop living in kuku lands of trying to make up with people group with PTSD and on a revenge path- weakness wont nd well

Pakistan used to send its labor class to UAE and previously UK in the 60s,70s, out of diaspora only in US,NA is where some educated people from Pak come, even here in the 80s Pak only exclusively sent labor class, others were largely not accepted

That's why the perception, only in NA is there some sort of educated class because they are recent arrivals not old labor class (Pak relationship was better back in the day so Pak provided multiple countries with labor and both the host country and Pak discouraged educated people from leaving )

This is the issue we are facing because now mostly educated are leaving unlike old immigration where GOP only lobbied for their labor class to leave and discouraged the immigration of educated groups, now no one gives a s*** its free for all to leave (GOP didn't stop them from leaving just made it hard to leave)

 

[HAIDER]

Well if you take the superstition away what remains of Hinduism? Muslims and British already diluted Hinduism to it's current form by banning a lot of practices. At this point ending Hinduism is very easy, if any outside force is able to end caste system, it's backbone, that's the end of Hinduism.

I have not much knowledge about the Hindu religion, except knowing their rituals and superstitious practices. . But some Hindus said their major holy books have different approaches for followers without any classification of the caste system.

dehumanize you, ask for your nations ruin, want your killings
stop living in kuku lands of trying to make up with people group with PTSD and on a revenge path- weakness wont nd well

Pakistan used to send its labor class to UAE and previously UK in the 60s,70s, out of diaspora only in US,NA is where some educated people from Pak come, even here in the 80s Pak only exclusively sent labor class, others were largely not accepted

That's why the perception, only in NA is there some sort of educated class because they are recent arrivals not old labor class (Pak relationship was better back in the day so Pak provided multiple countries with labor and both the host country and Pak discouraged educated people from leaving )

This is the issue we are facing because now mostly educated are leaving unlike old immigration where GOP only lobbied for their labor class to leave and discouraged the immigration of educated groups, now no one gives a s*** its free for all to leave (GOP didn't stop them from leaving just made it hard to leave)

You are mixing facts and it is a long debate. Not talking about Bhutto-era pacts with Arab countries. Our flight of intellects started in the late 70s.

 

[Great Janjua]

India is a land of 600 dialects and hundreds of cultures and every culture have its school of thought. How much you can change ?? .. Security situation is always under question because of the population bomb. Resources are extremely limited. People have no motivation for social changes.

My friend I work with Indians and I respect them. I am not a hypocrite. They respect me bing a Pakistani and I respect them. But again I deal with the educated class. Behind me what they say, it's not my business. And its reality, from UAE commerce and banking sector to KSA medical field. You will see all Hindu and hardly any Indian Muslims. They are only found in labour jobs. We are far behind in education.
Anyway dear brother, we can change the friends but not neighbours. I have seen Indian Muslims in the US and Canada. You won't like what they think about Pakistani.

You see you only met the nice educated ones from let's assume liberal backgrounds. You're shirking the bigger picture, half if not more of Hindu Indians are extremely Islamaphobic, therefore, cunning to the core. The trend of Hindu Neo-Nazis styled groups operating in India was established way before independence, So-called hunter squads. But were subdued by the British. They only gained a foothold after the British left from then on their invisible cloak was disbanded. Today they continue their operations on open grounds with no fear of backlash.

 

[Maira La]

But some Hindus said their major holy books have different approaches for followers without any classification of the caste system.

That's because Hindus lie. Hinduism is nothing but caste system and superstitions. I know because we have lots of Hindus in BD.

 

[Chakar The Great]

What a shity apologetic life you have as an Indian Muslim.


Begging for mercy, yet need to prove every day their patriotism, allegiance to Hindustan.

 

[crankthatskunk]

A sold out tout's words means absolutely nothing.