Hinduism and Talibanism:Did hindus destroyed Buddhist& jain temples?

[silver_dragon]

Gautam Buddha is considered one of the avatar of Lord Vishnu
Hindus have no hard feelings against Buddhism.....I my self have been to a lot of Buddhist Worship places

If that the case, That u should not have any hard feeling if china is going reclaim its lost buddist lands in india..

 

[KRAIT]

If that the case, That u should not have any hard feeling if china is going reclaim its lost buddist lands in india..

Come and take it....

 

[ifesvr]

This thread is inspired by debate in Auranzaib thread where Indians were accusing muslim invaders of destroying temples.Well lets now see the other side of the coin too where hindus destroyed and perecuted buddists and dsetroyed their worship place.

Interesting, so you are comparing the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan in 21st c. with 10 c. Hindu kingdoms. It would have made some sense(however little) if you had compared them with Ghazni, Qutubuddin and Aurangzeb.

Moreover the main point is that while muslims particularly Pakistanis considers these ruthless and fundamentalist kings like Aurangzeb and Ghazni as their heroes today,
Indians considers Hindu converts to Jain Chandragupta Maurya and Buddhist Ashoka as heroes. So there goes your argument of Hindus hating Jains and Buddhists and need I even explain the contrast treatment of muslims by Shivaji and Maratha Empire and Ranjeet Singh and the Sikh Empire compared to Aurangzeb.

 

[ajtr]

If that the case, That u should not have any hard feeling if china is going reclaim its lost buddist lands in india..

Instead India being land of Buddha sould reclaim its past lost buddist lands that include chaina and for that chinese should not have hard feelings.

 

[oFFbEAT]

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Muslims killed Buddhists and destroyed their temples and statues.....they are still doing it......The Buddhists world wide know this very well.....

Destruction of the Bamiyan Statues: Taliban vs the Buddha

 

[silver_dragon]

Instead India being land of Buddha sould reclaim its past lost buddist lands that include chaina and for that chinese should not have hard feelings.

Ok Agreed... Condition applied...India should abandon Hinduism... build Buddist temples on all past destroyed loactions...on which hindu temples are now...tht means they should be demolished. and many more... ...then come n claim china...

 

[RazPaK]

Great article. Thanks for sharing ajtr.

 

[silver_dragon]

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Muslims killed Buddhists and destroyed their temples and status.....they are still doing it......The Buddhists world wide know this very well.....

Destruction of the Bamiyan Statues: Taliban vs the Buddha

ok...rebuild buddist temples first on existing hindu temples..or else keep ur acidic tears for buddists with urself.

 

[ares]

Why u r here then,,,why dont u gone to ur Indian Defence websites...why on PDF? ..

Many reasons, foremost amongst them being.

1. For I am not a suicide troll with an alternate account.

2.And unlike you, my IQ is not same as my age.

3. I do have something intelligent to share.

 

[scorpionx]

If that the case, That u should not have any hard feeling if china is going reclaim its lost buddist lands in india..

Stop trolling and sleep well.

 

[oFFbEAT]

ok...rebuild buddist temples first on existing hindu temples..or else keep ur acidic tears for buddists with urself.

Give me one proof about any Hindu Temple being built on any Buddhist Temple......

I have given you examples of how Muslim Talibans destroyed the Buddha statues in Afghanistan.....

In-fact the Hindu kings patronned the Buddhists.....
The GREAT ancient Buddhist universities/monasteries named Nalanda and Taxila flourished during the rule of the Hindu kings......which would have been impossible if they were against the Buddhists....

 

[notsuperstitious]

When Marathas kicked out Aurangzeb and his remnants and established their rule in most of central India, how many Mosques they destroyed in retaliation for What Aurangzeb had done to Hindus?

Is not Asoka considered a hero in India, he converted to Buddhism and was instrumental in Buddhism's growth in Asia.

There is nothing in Hindu books that says never pass an infidel's medium of worship without striking it.


Terrorist apologists not concerned about their favorite word - root cause? Aah the change of heart!

 

[oFFbEAT]

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Great Hindu kings like Emperor Chandragupta Maurya embraced Jainism.......
Emperor Ashoka embraced Buddhism....

Hindus in general were never hostile towards Buddhists, Jains or Sikhs.....
It is the Brahmin class which, in fear of loosing power might have some disagreements with the Buddhists.....but then, the Brahmins were hostile towards their own Hindu 'lower caste' compatriots as well.......and they were not powerful enough to destroy Buddhist Temples and kill Buddhists, especially when Kashtriya Hindu kings were patronning the Buddhists.....


We Hindus worship Gautama Buddha, Guru Nanak Dev and Mahavira........this is the highest respect a Hindu can give....
We love all the Dharmic Religions.....

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Why Buddhism prospered in Asia but died in India

By Shenali Waduge

Undoubtedly, the philosophy of Buddhism is one of the greatest gifts to mankind. Its peaceful concepts have distanced its followers from wars, crusades and is a binding formula for the entire South/South Eastern/Central/East Asian region of the world of which most nations are Buddhist countries whilst others including India are not.

The Buddha was not interested in numbers nor was he interested in the lay deity having a distinct identity. There were no social codes, modes of worship…in other words adherence to the Buddhist faith was not obligatory unlike other religions of the world. Anyone, irrespective of caste, creed was welcome to take refuge in the teachings of Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha. There was no exclusive allegiance nor was lay deity required to perform regular religious service – essentially everything was voluntary. Only those that understood the philosophy behind Buddhism would be able to cherish its value.

With time the Brahminical Social Order began to secure greater advantage over Buddhism and with royal patronage shifting from Buddhism to Hinduism, the fate of Buddhism was sealed and the great philosophy all but disappeared from India with little help of revival even from State Governments.

Why India chose to forget Buddhism

A puzzle to most is how Buddhism disappeared in the land of its birth. Was it because people became absorbed in Hindu practices, rituals, and mythology and caste supremacy or, was it the Moghul invasions, or could it have been the failure of Bhikkus to sustain the great philosophy itself?

Needless to say for whatever reasons, Buddhism did decline and disappeared in India.

Historian S. R. Goyal has attributed the decline and disappearance of Buddhism from India to the hostility of the Brahmanas. An incident oft cited is the destruction of the Bo Tree and Buddhist images by Saivite King, Shashanka, persecution by Pusyamitra Sunga (185 BC to 151 BC) who detested the Law of the Buddha had set fire to the Sutras, destroyed Stupas, razed Samgharamas and massacred Bhikkus and even killed the deity of the Bodhi tree. There is also mention of the Huna onslaught on Taxila (in Pakistan), the persecution of Buddhist monks by Mihirkula.

Incidentally, though Moghuls are accused of destroying Hindu temples, most of these temples were actually built on Buddhist shrine sites. Results of Moghul invasions were many too - Somapura Mahavihara (now in Bangladesh) was set ablaze. Odantapuri Mahavihara close to Nalanda was razed to the ground in 1199 CE after killing all the monks and Bodhgaya was attacked as well. Though there is evidence that even a century beyond the Muslim conquest Buddhism remained in places like Gaya till the end of the 14th century which disproves the notion that Muslim conquest was not singularly responsible for the decline of Buddhism in India.

Thus the inability to gage a particular time period for the process of decline until Buddhism collapsed towards the end of the 12th century. Yet, the question remains if Jainism survived why Buddhism didn’t? The Bengal Puranas depict the Buddhists as being mocked and subject to verbal chiding.

Yet persecutions may suppress but it does not kill a religion! So what really happened to Buddhism in India?

No Hindu civilization before Buddhism

There is no mention of “Hindu” in ancient Aryan literature nullifying the belief that a Hindu nation existed. Hindus profess to be Aryans citing the Rigveda as the oldest literature in the world. However, Rigveda was written in Sanskrit and contains references to Prakrit language (600 BCE to 1000 CE) and Prakrit was associated with Buddhism. The Rigveda also contains Vaidik prayer to God Indra to kill Dasas. Dr. Ambedkar claims Dasas and Nagas were the same people and were rulers of India when the Rigveda was written. The Rigveda also mentions Rishis like Bharadwaj, Vasistha, Bhrigu, Viswamitra etc – Buddhist literature mentions these are Buddha’s contemporary so the Rigveda could not have been the oldest document in the world.

There is neither archeological evidence nor literary evidence that Sanskrit is anterior to Buddhism? Hindu historian Dr. Majumdar claims that 75% of Hindu culture derives from Dravidian culture. According to Brahminical literature the Chaturvarna (Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas and Sudras), the Kshatriyas were exterminated by Brahmin leader Parasuram. The Brahim text the Gita mentions Vaishyas, Sudras and women as belonging to papyoni – in other words they were non-Hindus. We also know that the Vaishyas and the Sudras were disallowed to hear or recite the Vedas. Moreover, the science of medicine – Ayurveda was the profession of the Sudras and Charak Samhita the father of Ayurveda was not only a Buddhist but also the physician of Buddhist emperor Kanishka.

The truth remains that there is nothing like Aryan civilization and Vedic period in Indian history anterior to Buddhism. Prakrit the language of the indigenous people was associated with Buddhism in ancient times. In reality, the Buddhist language is associated with the Harappan culture as inscriptions used by Buddhist emperor Ashoka to propagate his message to the people were derived from the language of the Harappan people. Aryan is a distortion of the word Iranian.

In all probability the Vaidiks falsely inserted the myth that “Aryan culture” and “Vedic period” in the historical sequence anterior to Buddhism because they did not want to disclose that the Brahminical culture came after Buddhism. It was essentially an inferiority issue.

It is clear that there was no “Hindu civilization” before Buddhism, there was no “Vedic” period before Buddhism because Sanskrit developed after Buddhism and it was during the Buddhist period that the Vedas were manufactured. Not wanting to give due place to Buddhism it is often argued that the Vedas were not written and were merely passed down over generations through oral scriptures (Shruties). If so, then why were they not called Vedas instead of shruties? If Sanskrit did not exist before Buddhism in what language were the Vedas or shruties passed down from generation to generation?

The Hindu era

We all agree that the history of all religions began from their leaders – the Buddhist era began with Lord Buddha, the Christian era began with Jesus Christ...etc. The Hindu era begins from Vikrami Samvat (from Hindu king Chandra Gupta Vikramaditya) and Shaka Samvat which are 2055 and 1922 years old respectively. Yet, there cannot be two eras for Hindus – the Shaka era started from 78AD related to Kanishka, a Buddhist emperor of the Kushan dynasty.

Hindu Brahminisation began with the Shaka era and continued to the Vikram era. The first archaeological evidence of Sanskrit (language of Hindu Brahmins) called Rudra Danam inscriptions belong to the period of the Shaka rulers (Mathura, Nasik and Ujjain their capitals).

Shaka era actually started from Kanishka, a Buddhist emperor of Kushan dynasty. Instead of Shaka era it should be called Kushan era. Another question seeks to ask why Vikram era associated with Chandra Gupta 11 was made anterior to Shaka era? What is the relationship of the Hindus with the Shakas and Chandra Gupta? Kanishka was associated with Buddhism while Chandra Gupta was associated with Hindu Brahmanism. The only possible conclusion we can derive is that Vikram era was made anterior to Shaka era to make Buddhism inferior to Hinduism.

It was during the Shaka era that Buddhism came to be divided into Mahayana and Hinayana. It was during the Vikram era that Pali, the language of the Buddhists was exterminated.

Hindu history is perhaps just 2055 years old but in order to show its superiority it exterminated Pali and destroyed the cultural and religious identity of Buddhism. There sealed the fate of Buddhism in India.

Buddhism in Asia

Buddhism has strong foundations in Thailand, Burma and Sri Lanka whilst in other parts of South/South East Asia it is facing difficulties. The countries ruled by colonists resulted in persecution of Buddhist through missionary Christian/Catholic schools. Undoubtedly, there is a resurgence to revive Buddhism and to bring all Buddhist nations together.

South/South East Asia Theravada Buddhism - Indonesia, Malaysia, Burma, Thailand, Bangladesh, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Sri Lanka.

In India it was only after Ambedkar started a neo-Buddhist movement among the untouchables in the 1950s that Buddhism came to be somewhat revived. In India it is mostly the Indian “untouchables” who are embracing Buddhism. There are 300m Dalits who to survive caste discrimination are turning to different faiths. We may recall how 50,000 Indian dalits converted to Buddhism. Out of 28 Indian states and 7 union territories Buddhism’s reach has become minimal. It is in the state of Maharashtra that 74% of total Indian Buddhists reside followed by Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh, Mizoram and Karnataka, UP, West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh.

East Asian/Central Asian Mahayana Buddhism – Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Japan, Nepal and Bhutan, Ladakh, Russia and China (non-Han regions – Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjian (East Turkistan). Han Chinese in inner China have also developed an interest in Buddhism.

It goes without saying that for a very peaceful practicing philosophy the currents that Buddhism and Buddhists have faced over ancient times and even towards contemporary times will never find answers as to why Buddhism has faced the challenges it weathered. There is no streak of violence in Buddhism. It is only about one’s own journey towards salvation along a middle path that espouses to refrain from either extremes to finding the Truth for oneself. That Truth is not the same for any of us, yet it is the Truth nevertheless.

Similarly in the West too, the people have found Buddhism to be an easy philosophy to understand and follow. Thus, in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada and even South America plenty of “Dharma centers” have emerged in over 90 countries.

Undoubtedly, we must mention Indo-Sri Lanka relationship and make special mention that there has never been a period of cordiality as that which existed during the time of King Asoka of India and King Devanampiyatiss of Sri Lanka. Regrettably, India has chosen to treat Sri Lanka as a quasi-enemy and has continued to carry out destabilizing operations against Sri Lanka. India’s present overtures towards aligning with Sri Lanka through Buddhism shows clear signs of seeking to be a partner of the Asian block through Buddhism since India has antagonized enough of its neighbors already.

While India plays no role in the future of Buddhism except its treatment along scholarly lines devoid of emotional attachment, it is the practice, the understanding, the reverence given to Buddhism that is seeing a revival and a greater binding amongst South/South East/Central/East Asian countries of the world and Sri Lanka should take a lead to create greater binding.

Why Buddhism prospered in Asia but died in India | Asian Tribune

 

[oFFbEAT]

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Since the Buddhists were non-violent, the Muslim invaders killed them mercilessly......
It's the Hindu kings who protected and patronned them.....