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WTF are you guys on about? Forceful conversions in Islam cannot be done. Period. If you were forced to convert and you dont believe in it. You are not Muslim. :

If something is forbidden in Islam doesn't mean they don't happen.
For example Islam say killing a person is killing the whole humanity,but u know what goes on the ground ,how organizations like Taliban killing fellow Muslims in the name of Islam.

Does this have something to do with inside crap talks within the Hindu communities about evil Islam and forceful conversions along with rape to the Hindu women? :lol
Its not just crap talk.There are so much historical evidences of such things happening in large number .It happened in Pakistan more than anywhere else as the marauding Arab troops started invading from the west or through the sea route.
 
:lol: Dont know why all the Indian members are talking about History, and the truth. :lol:

WTF are you guys on about? Forceful conversions in Islam cannot be done. Period. If you were forced to convert and you dont believe in it. You are not Muslim.

Does this have something to do with inside crap talks within the Hindu communities about evil Islam and forceful conversions along with rape to the Hindu women? :lol:

Nobody here is denying Qu'ran's stand on forceful conversions. Everyone is talking about those people who are forced to call themselves Muslims. With world of information rife with sources beyond doubt, your statements look like a tasteless joke.

We all know that if you do not believe in Islam, you are not a Muslim. And nobody is questioning that fact, except your own bias. We are all talking about the people who have been forced to call themselves Muslims, and live accordingly, even when they themselves did not want to. After that it doesn't matter whether that person is a Muslim or not, but the life is changed for the worse for sure.

Can't imagine the difficulties you face in comprehending these facts.
 
I think forceful conversion can happen in any religion.. as we should be aware.. not every one is practicing the rules of religion in accordance to its actual meaning..!! When a pressure is upon you to convert by a majority community.. even if a person voloutarliy adopts a religion that would not be considered right..!!! But who cares??? we are not going after the root cause.. where in people are getting convereted.... either forcefully through pressure but covering it up with what a religion actually says..!!!!
 
Nobody here is denying Qu'ran's stand on forceful conversions. Everyone is talking about those people who are forced to call themselves Muslims. With world of information rife with sources beyond doubt, your statements look like a tasteless joke.

We all know that if you do not believe in Islam, you are not a Muslim. And nobody is questioning that fact, except your own bias. We are all talking about the people who have been forced to call themselves Muslims, and live accordingly, even when they themselves did not want to. After that it doesn't matter whether that person is a Muslim or not, but the life is changed for the worse for sure.

Can't imagine the difficulties you face in comprehending these facts.

And how exactly is that possible?

The only thing that is, is a baseless belief that your community lives upon.

No one can be forcefully converted. For how long can you force someone to believe something they dont want to believe in?

These things are nothing but propaganda installed into you.
 
And how exactly is that possible?

The only thing that is, is a baseless belief that your community lives upon.

No one can be forcefully converted. For how long can you force someone to believe something they dont want to believe in?

These things are nothing but propaganda installed into you.

Well.. if you are surrounded by fanatics.. it is possible that they have to live forever with this forced thing upon them??? unless the society changes... its basic logic and its true for any religion which is in majority and which are having fanatics...in any country...
 
Well.. if you are surrounded by fanatics.. it is possible that they have to live forever with this forced thing upon them???

What is the point?
 
What is the point?

The point is.. forceible conversion exists.. and if any person living around fanatics and if he is forced to convert.. he will have to remain in the new religion.. forever.. if he wants to live in that society..!!!

It can happen in any society.. and pakistan and muslim religion is no exception..!!! But unfortunately we hear more stories like these in muslim majoirty countries..!!!
 
And how exactly is that possible?

The only thing that is, is a baseless belief that your community lives upon.

No one can be forcefully converted. For how long can you force someone to believe something they dont want to believe in?

These things are nothing but propaganda installed into you.

Did I not agree with you that it depends on the heart of the person whether that person has become a Muslim or not? Was I not utterly careful in my being politically correct in all the statements I made, only to make sure you read what I write, and nothing else? Did I not go on to call the forceful converter not an Imam, but a corrupt Imam? Why do you read only what you want to read? Where have I brought the belief/Islam in question?

Anyway, since my efforts to help you look at things from a different point of view have failed miserably, and you are hell bent on taking this debate in the direction that suits you best, I will comply with just two statements about the freedom of religion in Islam that everyone is celebrating here.

1. There is no compulsion on conversion.

2. Those who try to leave Islam, are given three days to repent, failure of which shall result in their condemned to death.

Do you think the above statements taken collectively define freedom of religion?
 
25 Hindu girls abducted every month, claims HRCP official

As many as 20 to 25 girls from the Hindu community are abducted every month and converted forcibly, said Amarnath Motumal, an advocate and council member of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.

“There is no official record to support this statement, but according to estimates, in Karachi alone, a large number of Hindu girls are being kidnapped on a routine basis,” Motumal told The News. “The families of the victims are scared to register cases against the influential perpetrators as death threats are issued to them in case they raise their voice. So, the victims choose to remain silent to save their lives,” he said.

Motumal said the word ‘Hindu’ had become an insult and a kind of abuse for the Hindu community. “Almost 90 per cent of the Hindu community comprise poor and impoverished families whose needs and rights have been neglected by the ones at the helms of power,” he said, adding that since a majority of the people feel helpless, only a few families come to him with their cases.

A former MPA, Bherulal Balani, said that the Hindu girls, especially the ones belonging to scheduled castes, were mostly being abducted from the Lyari area. “Once the girls are converted, they are then sold to other people or are forced to do illegal and immoral activities,” Balani said. He added the perpetrators were very powerful and that was the reason that no cases were being registered against them.

The number of attacks against the Hindu community has increased in the interior Sindh during the last three months. At least nine incidents have been reported which range from forced conversion of Hindus to rape and murders.

In one incident, a 17-year-old girl ‘K’ was gang-raped in Nagarparker area. In another incident, a 15-year-old girl ‘D’ was allegedly abducted from Aaklee village, Tharparkar, and was forced to convert. About 71 families migrated from the village in protest against the girl’s abduction.

Moreover, the Hindu communities were not even spared on the occasion of their joyous festival of Holi as two girls, Anita and Kishni, were kidnapped in Kotri. Moreover, two Hindu boys, Ajay and Sagar, were abducted from another place on the same day.

One Amir Gul was murdered in the beginning of March in Tando Haider, Umerkot, allegedly by a landlord. Later in the month, a boy, Kishan Kumar, was kidnapped from Kandhkot, Jacobabad.

MPA Pitamber Sewani told The News that these acts were being done by certain elements who believe that these minority communities might support the government in the upcoming local bodies’ elections, and these elements want to harass them.

However, President Pakistan Hindu Council Ramesh Kumar criticised the minorities’ representatives for not raising their voice at relevant forums. He said that they were simply representing their respective parties and not the poor people. He added that poor economic conditions had led to an increase in kidnapping cases in the province, especially in the Kandhkot and Jacobabad areas.

Coordinator HRCP Task Force Sindh Dr Ashothama Lohano told The News the according to their one fact-finding report, the most affected persons of violence belonged to Hindu and Christian communities. He said that various reasons have been cited for this. “The recent wave of extremism is one reason, which has destroyed the harmony of the land of Sufis. Another reason is the destruction of the agriculture sector and small markets that has led to frustration and lawlessness. Yet another reason is that the elected representatives are working only for the party and not for the community,” Dr Lohano added.

He further said that minority communities were easy targets as the Hindus were generally hesitant to raise voice against the injustices. “When the Hindu communities become politically active, they are blamed for having Indian connections,” doctor Lohano said.

25 Hindu girls abducted every month, claims HRCP official
 
probbly love related issue .. same ol same ol ...

forced conversions is wrong by the way but ...if its something love issue yeah apne bass main nahi hai ....

:disagree:

what a way to solve a love related issue

abduct her,forcefully change her cate,and do whatever(i think u got it) behind the close doors of madrassa
 
You shameless people, if the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan is taking action but you seem to be accusing the whole nation for cheap point scoring.

I am going to go now and open new thread on burnt Dalits, converted and persecuted christians. Maybe not because it is cheap to accuse others when you yourself have got work to do in your own backyard.

I know many Hindus in Karachi, and they are some of the best, purest hindus you would ever meet. Hardworking, dedicated and respectful. This only occurs with poorer people. We are working, as evident from campaigners and human right groups taking up the case.

There are bad people in your country and mine too. Rather than accusing each other, we can work together to overcome these things. But seems like you just want to demonize a whole nation for the wrongs of the few, well I will not do that.
 
You shameless people, if the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan is taking action but you seem to be accusing the whole nation for cheap point scoring.

I am going to go now and open new thread on burnt Dalits, converted and persecuted christians. Maybe not because it is cheap to accuse others when you yourself have got work to do in your own backyard.

I know many Hindus in Karachi, and they are some of the best, purest hindus you would ever meet. Hardworking, dedicated and respectful. This only occurs with poorer people. We are working, as evident from campaigners and human right groups taking up the case.

There are bad people in your country and mine too. Rather than accusing each other, we can work together to overcome these things. But seems like you just want to demonize a whole nation for the wrongs of the few, well I will not do that.

my friend u and ur people around the forum were already taking these cheap shots for a long time,now u got to now how it feels,when crime of 1 man is attributed to a whole nation
 
my friend u and ur people around the forum were already taking these cheap shots for a long time,now u got to now how it feels,when crime of 1 man is attributed to a whole nation

I haven't, some people definitely have. But I stay away from those threads, perhaps if we continue this trend we will all just suffer more than get things done.
 
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