High Speed Trains in Pakistan

[jarves]

It may not make sense in India but I makes a lot of sense in Pakistan's Punjab.

You are about Bullet trains or normal high speed trains??

 

[Pakistanisage]

Too fast, too soon.

Maybe so, but that is the direction we should be heading in eventually.

 

[madooxno9]

During a feasibility study conducted in India (Amritsar to Delhi) , the cost of laying 1 Km of track was 33 Crore INR.( 2008 ).

Now do the maths .

 

[Secularpakistani]

Well a while ago nawaz sharif government signed a MOU with china on a bullet train but i don,t know when that project is going to start.Also that bullet won,t cover the whole pakistan.
Well on the other side i don,t think our illiterate and ill mannered population deserve such kind of trains.

 

[Pakistanisage]

You are about Bullet trains or normal high speed trains??

Trains travelling 125 to 150 MPH that will reduce travel time between Islamabad and Lahore to less than 2 hours.

 

[SHAMK9]

Maybe so, but that is the direction we should be heading in eventually.

Correct but its way too early right now. We should electrify the Karachi-Islamabad route first.

 

[Pakistanisage]

Correct but its way too early right now. We should electrify the Karachi-Islamabad route first.

I think some of those Plans are already in the works and will materialize soon with construction of the " Trade Corridor " between Gwadar - Karachi - Kashgar route.

 

[OrionHunter]

Yeah, but it should be Financed by selling Bonds and let the income from tickets payback the Bonds.
Finance through Bonds....

Really? How much? Check out the costs involved:

French railways spent $37 million per mile on the high speed line from Paris to Strasbourg, which opened in 2007. The Frankfurt to Cologne line cost $100 million per mile and HS1 $135 million per mile. HS2 will work out to $200 million per mile!!

Taking an average of $50 million per mile, Islamabad to Peshawar, a distance of 120 miles would cost $6 billion!! Or Rs 60,000 crores PKR!!

That's a lot of money. It won't be cost effective at all considering that ordinary folk would be using it and cannot afford to pay the exorbitant fares that would almost be the same as air fares.

 

[Echo_419]

Who will pay sir?

OP will pay in wet dreams currency
On topic first concern should be improving the frieght infra of PR

 

[Pakistanisage]

Really? How much? Check out the costs involved:

French railways spent $37 million per mile on the high speed line from Paris to Strasbourg, which opened in 2007. The Frankfurt to Cologne line cost $100 million per mile and HS1 $135 million per mile. HS2 will work out to $200 million per mile!!

Taking an average of $50 million per mile, Islamabad to Peshawar, a distance of 120 miles would cost $6 billion!! Or Rs 60,000 crores PKR!!

That's a lot of money. It won't be cost effective at all considering that ordinary folk would be using it and cannot afford to pay the exorbitant fares that would almost be the same as air fares.

I think the costs you are quoting are for brand new Tracks.

We have existing tracks that can be Upgraded for trains running upto 125 Miles an Hour.

The cost of upgrading these existing tracks is not as high as laying new lines.

You need new Railway tracks for speeds 150 MPH or higher.

For speeds up to 125 MPH , you can upgrade the conventional tracks and they function perfectly well.

The cost of upgrading our existing tracks will not be that high.

OP will pay in wet dreams currency
On topic first concern should be improving the frieght infra of PR

As usual, some of you low life trollers show up to FU all threads.

If you have nothing Constructive to contribute to the thread , keep your odious self out.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan should have a High Speed Train connecting Peshawar, Islamabad, Sargodha, Faisalabad, Lahore, Sahiwal, Multan and Bhawalpur. Daily service once or twice a day depending on demand.

Any Suggestions Guys.....




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Yes we need train system but first we have to put the life in the dead system improve that with what ever resources we have and than when it goes in profit than think of fast trains because we need train system in war time and also in peace for our Armed Forces because it transports many things on cheaper rates than we have spend right now on @Aeronaut

 

[batmannow]

i guss, sure we need it for longer distances, not only that but also underground fast trains inside cites, but this rulling political mafia , will never ever be doing it!

 

[Pakistanisage]

No country in South Asia can afford High speed trains(If by high speed trains you meant bullet trains).Setting some Kms of track will cost million of dollars.If by high speed trains

But if you mean normal high speed trains with a speed bw 150 to 180 km per hour then it is very much feasible.

You do realize that for speeds up to 125 MPH you can use existing tracks by upgrading them for high speed.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

ISLAMABAD: China has agreed to finance the upgrading of a rail network on its mainline and to construct a state-of-the-art dry port at Havelian by investing $4 billion during the next three to four years.

“Now the Ministry of Railways has been assigned to carry out a feasibility study for upgrading the rail network from Havelian to Karachi on its mainline (ML-1) which will be accomplished in the next seven to eight months,” a top official of the Ministry of Railways confirmed to The News here on Thursday.

The rail link from Gwadar to Karachi will also be established.The feasibility study will unveil the exact cost of these railway projects but according to rough estimates calculated by the concerned high-ups, the total investment requirement will be standing at around Rs 300 to Rs 400 billion. Both sides have also finalised the timelines, so these railway projects could be accomplished within the tenure of PML-N led regime.

Federal Minister for Railways Khawaja Saad Rafique told The News on Thursday that the government was working on a revitalising plan for the Pakistan Railways under which it would be turned around from a loss making to profit making entity over the medium term. Under this vision, he said, the rail linkages with neighbouring countries, including China, India and Turkey, would be established over the medium term.

However, official sources said that under the Vision 2025, which is under preparation, the Ministry of Railways has been vying its options to link Khunjerab with Havelian through the rail network but it requires substantial cost and long term plans to make it happen.

Pakistan has requested China to provide interest free loans to finance rail upgrading network, he said and added that the exact mode of financing by the Chinese side was not yet finalised but Beijing was considering different options, including soft loans with mark up of one to two percent to execute these projects.

In order to develop the western China, the industrial goods would be transported through the Karakoram Highway (KKH) by upgrading the road network from Khunjerab to Havelian and then through the rail network consignments would be transported to the port city of Karachi. On the other side, the rail network from Gwadar to Jacobabad will ensure transportation of trade goods.

“China has agreed to finance these mega projects in the recently-concluded early harvest programme signed by both the sides in Beijing,” said the official.In a bid to establish the Pak-China Economic Corridor, both countries have decided to establish rail, road and sea links to promote trade and economic activities.

Special economic zones will also be established on the sidelines of routes linking through rail and road network for exploiting the existing economic opportunities in this region.The sources said that the government was also planning to upgrade 27 kilometers line through Wagah under its short term plan. The Monabhao rail link between Pakistan and India does not require upgrading at the moment, he concluded.

 

[SHAMK9]

I think some of those Plans are already in the works and will materialize soon with construction of the " Trade Corridor " between Gwadar - Karachi - Kashgar route.

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