Helicopter Fleet for the IAF

[massattack]

what has indus river or indias name got to do with apache hellicopters

or is it frustation and jealousy

Its comparison of pure logic...an example from the past to let you know how to live your present for a better future.... the same old size theory is outdated... simple comparison is unfair an illogical. yes you have bigger territory, population? economy so what? its a message that you failed to see...if you opt for a war with us you probably have no future

 

[BATTLE FIELD]

@massattack you joined in 2008

.if you opt for a war with us you probably have no future

 

[massattack]

@massattack you joined in 2008

what can i say hard routine

 

[BATTLE FIELD]

what can i say hard routine

HARD ROUTINE!!!

i only get 2 hours of free time every day but somehow manage to come here.
LOL life is very hard and the world is cruel.

 

[massattack]

HARD ROUTINE!!!

i only get 2 hours of free time every day but somehow manage to come here./QUOTE]

some how size theory is inbuilt in you guys error lol

 

[45'22']

Cool...i am impressed by this IAF procurement but at the same times there are reports that all of a sudden the Indian Army too has demanded for the same deal for the Army... which seems odd since its the army duty to demand such war machines by assessing their requirements not when the air support of the same country has ordered for its operations. i suspect discord and incoherence between the two branches of the same country and miss coordination which isn't a good sign for India from purely tactical point of view.

Army needs attack choppers for the strike corps and its forward bases....
They cant rely on air force everytime for anti tank support.....

Last time IAF didnt helped the IA with air support in kargil considering it would have escalated the situation.....

There is a little bitterness but its all good...

if USN and USAF both can operate jets of their own then why cant IA and IAF operate choppers

 

[killer elite]

. what if i told you the name of your country "India" is derived from the Indus river in our great nation of Pakistan? and you had to beg for water from Pakistan to irrigate india....

indus originates from indian and flowing into pakistan. and it is pakistan which is begging for water from indus.

ever heard of indus river treaty?

Its comparison of pure logic...an example from the past to let you know how to live your present for a better future.... the same old size theory is outdated... simple comparison is unfair an illogical. yes you have bigger territory, population? economy so what? its a message that you failed to see...if you opt for a war with us you probably have no future

well what you failed to see is:
bigger population and bigger economy means we are more capable than pakistan to fight a war.
larger population means more people for fight for the country...

 

[massattack]

Army needs attack choppers for the strike corps and its forward bases....
if USN and USAF both can operate jets of their own then why cant IA and IAF operate choppers

A Navy of a country operates differently... USA navy is stronger... Remember Admiral Michael Mullen commander of the whole USA armed forces?. Pak Navy has 50+ jet fighters of their own too.

indus originates from indian and flowing into pakistan. and it is pakistan which is begging for water from indus.


well what you failed to see is:
bigger population ,,,,,,means more people for fight for the country...

you guys still living in the stone age as if population matters in war?

 

[45'22']

A Navy of a country operates differently... USA navy is stronger.. Pak Navy has 50+ jet fighters of their own too.



you guys still living in the stone age as if population matters?

Pak navy has 50 jets

 

[killer elite]

you guys still living in the stone age as if population matters?

that is your failure to see the advancement of india. if we were living in stone age then how indian become much more advance than pakistan in every field??

Pak navy has 50 jets

that is a vision from his last wet dream.

 

[massattack]

that is your failure to see the advancement of india. if we were living in stone age then how indian become much more advance than pakistan in every field??

its the mental disorder i was referring to which you have failed to see. anyway nice talking to you guys... i think its only idle talk.. hopefully catch you on another front

 

[BATTLE FIELD]

A Navy of a country operates differently... USA navy is stronger... Remember Admiral Michael Mullen commander of the whole USA armed forces?. Pak Navy has 50+ jet fighters of their own too.



you guys still living in the stone age as if population matters in war?

we have 200+

 

[killer elite]

its the mental disorder i was referring to which you have failed to see. anyway nice talking to you guys...

mental disorder!!?? can you elaborate?

hopefully catch you on another front

last line of your defense??

 

[Ind4Ever]

Slightly incorrect. Th IA has ordered 114 LCH, a number which corresponds to roughly 10 light attack helicopter squadrons, each with 11-12 helis . It is to be noted that each Corps (Rather group Armies) will in time get integral aviation brigades, with a squadron of light attack helis each. In short, the minimum number of LCH to be ordered will be 154-168 for the IA alone (14 corps).

The IAF has already issued a requirement for 65 LCH. Summarizing, that's 179 LCH confirmed, and another 40-54 LCH to be added to the order book at the minimum. As for Rudra, 76 has been confirmed for IA-IAF combined, with the Navy expressing interest in 20.

The IA has expressed a need for 39 Apaches, at 13 per Strike corps to form the heavy attack helicopter squadron for the I,II & XXI Strike corps. However given that the newly raised XIV corps is designated as a Strike Corps(Mountain), it is likely to hold a heavy attack helicopter Squadron as its integral strike asset. That would be another 13, for a total of 52.

Summary:
LCH: 179(confirmed)+54-64(logically expected) = 233-243
ALh-WSI (Rudra):76(confirmed)+20(Navy Interest) =96
Apache: 22(IAF)+11(follow on for IAF)+39(IA)+13=85

These numbers represent the expected force levels given current operational planning. When the Amphibious/expeditionary force is raised formally, additional orders will be expected for operations from on-board LPD/LHDs in fire support roles

Edit: There is a bit of confusion about the number of attack helicopters in an attack helicopter squadron; it should be 12 per squadron, but the IAF has ordered 22 apaches @11 per squadron.

And large number of Mi17

 

[killer elite]

And large number of Mi17

is that true that mil 17 can carry same load(tonnage) of weapons an apachi can carry??

mil.17 in kargil war

which anti-amour missile mil-35 is carrying??