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And lastly, why hasn't he made a visit to Gawadar?
Imran Khan has not visited Gawadar? 😂
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Provide a source for this graph. Otherwise, in addition to being bootlickers, you are also Ishaq Dar 2.0, fudging numbers.
Read here. 4 years old article
 
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So you wanted Imran Khan to fudge figures like Ishaq Dollar did?

No, I wanted Imran Khan to not intervene during the negotiations phase. It is as simple as that. Your low IQ prime minister doesn't have any training in economics. Why did he give dictation to trained professionals based on WhatsApp messages?

Only net increase of debt matters, Patwari, which is the lowest in this govt

Pffffffffffffffffft. Thank you for arguing my case for me, with hard figures. Bajwa's tenure starts from late 2016 and this traitor stood by and let this massive debt pile up.

Let me call you our on your stupidity. You are not taking time to actually read posts, rather, you are giving knee jerk responses to whatever catches your eye. With this gem, you have shot yourself on the foot.

No, West didn't force Pakistan to go into debt trap. It was previous govts own policies.

Of course, ghulami-e-Imran is concomitant with ghulami-e-West. Your other friend went so far as to give them divine backing (Ma'aaz Allahi Min Zaalik). We don't just have a tratitorous leader, we have traitors in our midst as well.
Like your favorite PMLN govt planned 20 billion USD current account deficit?

So you call building metro for 2 billion USD in Lahore development when rest of the province has no clean water?

So who were those great leaders who took Pakistan to IMF 21 times before Imran?

India went to IMF after going bankrupt in 1990. Why didn't it get into debt trap but became 2 trillion USD economy.

Your entire post is based on the assumption that I like or am trying to defend previous governments. They are all traitors and should be hanged. Don't waste my time with this drivel.
 
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Your entire post is based on the assumption that I like or am trying to defend previous governments. They are all traitors and should be hanged. Don't waste my time with this drivel.
So why don't you blame previous govt for the current mess
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Exactly. If Pakistan decrease imports by 10 billion dollars or increase exports by 10 billion dollars, Pakistan would come out of debt trap

And both you of you illiterate fools will receive a nobel prize in economics. Because who is going to pay the principle + interest? Oh wait, I think this is secret PTI meetings being inadvertently leaked. So, this is definite proof that Imran Khan intends to keep Pakistan in a continuous cycle of debt payments, using a positive CAD as a front. And just like that, Ishaq Dar 2.0 has been outed to the world.
Lol. That's not what destroying CAD means. When you destroy Current Account Deficit it means you got rid of the problem as this govt did.View attachment 698019

Which shows that I am debating with an immature child. Stop jumping on my words, I have made my intentions clear on the thread. If you want to go down to the semantics of words, then you are a low quality troll looking to declare victory by any means. To be very clear, I am saying that the previous government took the CAD into deep red territory and that is a very bad thing.
 
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And both you of you illiterate fools will receive a nobel prize in economics. Because who is going to pay the principle + interest? Oh wait, I think this is secret PTI meetings being inadvertently leaked. So, this is definite proof that Imran Khan intends to keep Pakistan in a continuous cycle of debt payments, using a positive CAD as a front. And just like that, Ishaq Dar 2.0 has been outed to the world.
Pakistan has to borrow 10 billion dollars each year to pay for its past external debts. If Pakistan decrease imports by 10 billion dollars or increase exports by 10 billion dollars, there won't be any more external borrowing, Patwari
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To be very clear, I am saying that the previous government took the CAD into deep red territory and that is a very bad thing.
So why are you blaming current govt when it fixed the CAD problem?
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But I thought you said you were against IMF altogether?

Let us recap what has happened. Imran Khan intervened in the negotiations process. A set of terms were agreed upon which have been classified on the pretext of national security concerns. This is what I am against. Publish the full set of terms under which the IMF deal has been done.
 
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This son of a certificate whore Nawaz several times ordered government planes to bring back Palak Paneer and Saag from a restaurant in UAE and Dubai because he liked the taste from there. Yet we have kanjars who still follow him.

Him and his soor family needs to be hung with a noose.
well, you are under estimating the power of biryani
 
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Pakistan has to borrow 10 billion dollars each year to pay for its past external debts. If Pakistan decrease imports by 10 billion dollars or increase exports by 10 billion dollars, there won't be any more external borrowing, Patwari
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Imports of $10bn don't mean Pakistani companies converted Pakistani rupee into dollars to pay back $10bn. Imports can be paid, as an example, by goods and services provided, by offsetting against accounts receivable, or even deferred payment. Similarly, exports do not immediately lead to dollar inflows. There is a very complex process at work.

But it is school grade naivete if you think reducing imports by $10bn will allow us to pay back $10bn. It is like saying, if we don't have an arm, there will be no pain. You fool, you will be missing an arm. Imports are an essential part of a healthy economy because no country produces everything. You need to import so you can create value added products for export.

Telling people that we can 'reduce imports by $10bn' and reduce external debt is an insult to their intelligence. This is exactly Ishaq Dar 2.0. I mean, as kids there was a popular joke:

Husband: I saved Rs 3/- by running behind the bus instead of riding it.
Wife: You fool, if you ran behind a taxi you would have saved Rs 40/-

Do you see what is wrong here? You are a low quality, low intelligence, small minded troll wasting my time with flawed logic and an amateurish understanding of economics. Stop insulting yourself like this.

So why are you blaming current govt when it fixed the CAD problem?
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I am not blaming the current government for fixing CAD problem. What makes you think that?
well, you are under estimating the power of biryani

But the power of Imran Khan's dirty, smelly socks is evident from the quality of your posts.
 
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Let us recap what has happened. Imran Khan intervened in the negotiations process. A set of terms were agreed upon which have been classified on the pretext of national security concerns. This is what I am against. Publish the full set of terms under which the IMF deal has been done.
Imran Khan is PM. If he is not going to intervene, who will?
I blame everyone. I blame Musharraf, I blame Zardari, I blame Nawaz, I blame Bajwa, and I blame Imran Khan. All of them are traitors.
And you are a patriot, right? 🤣
 
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But it is school grade naivete if you think reducing imports by $10bn will allow us to pay back $10bn.
It's not naive. Here is a rough calculation:
Total external income of Pakistan: (exports + remittances + forex) = (20 + 20 + 10) = 50 billion USD
Total external expenses of Pakistan: (imports + debt repayments) = (50 + 10) = 60 billion USD
Difference = (Income - Expense) = (50 - 60) = -10 billion USD
So there you have it. You need 10 billion dollar new debt each year to balance the external account or go bankrupt. So you can either decrease import by 10 billion USD or increase exports by 10 billion USD to balance the external account without taking any new external debt.
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It's not naive. Here is a rough calculation:
Total external income of Pakistan: (exports + remittances + forex) = (20 + 20 + 10) = 50 billion USD
Total external expenses of Pakistan: (imports + debt repayments) = (50 + 10) = 60 billion USD
Difference = (Income - Expense) = (50 - 60) = -10 billion USD
So there you have it. You need 10 billion dollar new debt each year to balance the external account or go bankrupt. So you can either decrease import by 10 billion USD or increase exports by 10 billion USD to balance the external account without taking any new external debt.
@ziaulislam @Patriot forever

Bro the concept is right. (Forex in our case does not actually represent income, it's just a measure of difference in inflows and outflows in a given period of time, it's a primary indicator of liquidity in the system)

Basically it's our income vs our expenditure ( imports both in goods and services and a few other factors vs mainly exports both goods and services + remittances) which determines Current account surplus or deficit. The amount needed to keep the country running.
If it's in deficit that means either this amount is financed by forex reserves or external borrowing.
(Their is a cavet, decreasing imports and increasing exports both are interconnected, reducing imports beyond a certain point results in decreased exports. Imports have to carefully regulated to avoid in decrease in exports)

2nd reason for external borrowing is to pay off interest on cumulative debt and to pay off maturing principal amount.

3rd is developmental loans such as funding dams or other such projects, or in some instances local financial support (mostly this is not the case).

4th to subsidize currency. Pakistan was spending 500 million dollars every month, which ultimately we were borrowing. This is no longer he case as now to a great degree currency is market determined. In fact contrary to this we actually have SBP buying dollars from the market ( basically to protect the export orders in view of appreciating currency).


Reducing imports or increasing exports. Both of them will reduce CAD which means less borrowing. If we analyze the net increase in debt in the previous years especially in last 2 years of Plmn majority of it is incurred to finance CAD. This is contrast to this year as positive CAD so far which has resulted in our borrowing requirement limited to interest payment and developmental loans etc. Overall the rate of increase in debt has considerably slowed down this financial year.


One more very important point which we need to consider when comparing net increase in debt between 2 time periods is the change in forex reserves, to get the true picture.
For example if we are comparing Plmn last 2 years we need to take into account the considerable drain in forex, in contrast to pti first 2 years where their is a considerable increase in forex.
This is one of the most crucial factors in determining the overall macroeconomic stability as it directly corresponds with the liquidity. The access to foreign lenders.

If your base variables are unsustainable such as CAD, it directly affects the confidence of foreign lenders citing your ability to pay back. This results in credit crunch, when even your closest friends e.g China can be of little help and is not enough. Which is why you run to IMF again and again as basically it restores confidence of other lenders.

If you don't do that the alternate is default, we all have idea what happens when someone defaults.
 
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