Heavily in debt

[Patriot forever]

So here is another question for your PTI lovers. Why did Imran Khan try to sabotage CPEC? Why were Chinese companies accused of mismanagement at the beginning of his tenure? Why is CPEC so delayed? And lastly, why hasn't he made a visit to Gawadar? Why is this traitor doing everything in his power to destroy CPEC? It is only recently that the deep state has pressurized him to make some advancement. If CPEC were left in Imran Khan's hands, there would be no CPEC.

CPEC is running smoothly. Even the Chinese disagree with you assessment.

The only thing IK did was to cancel 3 projects based on imported coal, and started focusing on hydro and thar coal.

 

[CriticalThought]

No i dont(having a masters degree in stats & economy )

Exports arent your economy ...

You can have a great economy without exports as long as you arent in negative CAD..

Your economy is your GDP..you can produce and consume everything locally without having any exports and still be a great economy

But this will almost never apply to developing country as we dont do any R&D and will have to import stuff (medicines machines etc)

Therefore we need exports to have neutral CAD

Finally, at least you are now spouting tautologies and not prevarications.

You need exports to project economic power as well, but that is too advanced a topic for you. In our present state, we need exports to survive and thrive.

CPEC is running smoothly. Even the Chinese disagree with you assessment.

The only thing IK did was to cancel 3 projects based on imported coal, and started focusing on hydro and thar coal.

You mean to say allegations were never made against Chinese? Razzaq Dawood wasn't completely against CPEC? Phase 2 isn't delayed? Did I not say that the deep state had to kick him on the back side to get CPEC running again? Why are you wasting bandwidth?

Good so now we are talking something he did bad rather then talking about his positives..

Yes he has screwed up education no work done there and wasted all money on sufi universities..hate him for that..but dont hate him for turning around the foreign account balance like him for that(CAD)
Same way i like nawaz sharif for LNG high efficiency power plants, maualana for keeping liberals at bay, bhuttos for provincial autonomy and ANP for asking not to get involved in afgahnistan

There is a dark underside to this outward economic progress that has to do with slavery to the West. There is everything wrong about this.

 

[ziaulislam]

So here is another question for your PTI lovers. Why did Imran Khan try to sabotage CPEC? Why were Chinese companies accused of mismanagement at the beginning of his tenure? Why is CPEC so delayed? And lastly, why hasn't he made a visit to Gawadar? Why is this traitor doing everything in his power to destroy CPEC? It is only recently that the deep state has pressurized him to make some advancement. If CPEC were left in Imran Khan's hands, there would be no CPEC.

I thought you were against foreign debt?????
What changed , is china debt halal???


CPEC is foreign debt ..i personally dont like over spending on CPEC, if not needed, because like you i dont like foreign debt..it has to be renegotiated with least debt and least pricing.

So far CPEC pricing hasnt been excellent..a good example is your CPEC power plants just comapre it to india bangladesh coal plants priced at 6cents vs 8cents your plants

Having said all of that..
Govt hasnt axed a single project in CPEC it did renegotiated few of them to bring the prices down

It renegotiated the ML1 to bring cost down by dividing it in phases

It converted the sukkar hyderabd m6 to BOOT again to bring down debt

But see you arent against debt? ..kinda sumup things

China says CPEC is on track
Govt says CPEC is on track
Maryum nawaz says its not..
You get it..

Finally, at least you are now spouting tautologies and not prevarications.

You need exports to project economic power as well, but that is too advanced a topic for you. In our present state, we need exports to survive and thrive.


You mean to say allegations were never made against Chinese? Razzaq Dawood wasn't completely against CPEC? Phase 2 isn't delayed? Did I not say that the deep state had to kick him on the back side to get CPEC running again? Why are you wasting bandwidth?


There is a dark underside to this outward economic progress that has to do with slavery to the West. There is everything wrong about this.

Ofocurse there is difference between need and power projecting
You are shifiting your goal posts?
Do you want to project power yes be like china a manfacuring machine.

Do you want be independent just keep your CAD neutral

Do you want be a slave just bring nawaz sharif and make your CAD negative

I am sure you know this not that difficult to understand
So you are against debt but not against china debt...
You are against foreign dependence but not against a negative CAD..
you are against projects that dont increase exports but are okay with unchecked loan built projects..

You are just filled with so many contradictions
Except one..hatred to imran khan..everything else is a contradiction

If you were against debt you would have been completely against any debt not just IMF USA AB WB or china debt

My advise hate imran khan for his weakness dont talk about his strengths ..or FOREIGN debt management

 

[CriticalThought]

I thought you were against foreign debt?????
What changed , is china debt halal???


CPEC is foreign debt ..i personally dont like over spending on CPEC, if not needed, because like you i dont like foreign debt..it has to be renegotiated with least debt and least pricing.

So far CPEC pricing hasnt been excellent..a good example is your CPEC power plants just comapre it to india bangladesh coal plants priced at 6cents vs 8cents your plants

Having said all of that..
Govt hasnt axed a single project in CPEC it did renegotiated few of them to bring the prices down

It renegotiated the ML1 to bring cost down by dividing it in phases

It converted the sukkar hyderabd m6 to BOOT again to bring down debt

But see you arent against debt? ..kinda sumup things

China says CPEC is on track
Govt says CPEC is on track
Maryum nawaz says its not..
You get it..

Ofocurse there is difference between need and power projecting
You are shifiting your goal posts?
Do you want to project power yes be like china a manfacuring machine.

Do you want be independent just keep your CAD neutral

Do you want be a slave just bring nawaz sharif and make your CAD negative

I am sure you know this not that difficult to understand
So you are against debt but not against china debt...
You are against foreign dependence but not against a negative CAD..
you are against projects that dont increase exports but are okay with unchecked loan built projects..

You are just filled with so many contradictions
Except one..hatred to imran khan..everything else is a contradiction

If you were against debt you would have been completely against any debt not just IMF USA AB WB or china debt

My advise hate imran khan for his weakness dont talk about his strengths ..or FOREIGN debt management

You must misinterpret what I am saying to try and look good. Go back and show me where I have said that debt is bad? What I have said, is that we are currently in a debt trap by IMF and have IMF puppets making sure it remains that way.

CPEC isn't IMF debt. That said, you can mismanage CPEC horrendously and end up with a ton of Chinese debt. It takes competence to achieve anything in life and Imran Khan is an incompetent, clueless fool being cheered by the likes of you. His 'accomplishments' are mediocre so far, as are your feeble attempts at making him look great.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Lack of funding in education is part of the way they have kept people from speaking up for good governance. This is why, as the economy grows more funding has to go to education, especially literacy programs.

Grassroots efforts (legally empowered auditors with arrest powers) to make sure this funding is actually spend where it is suppose to be and not embezzled will have to be done side by side with any increased funding.

removing the snakes without removing the systemic means of corruption will only lead to new snakes rise up to take over where the last one left off.

This is a culture war, that needs to be fought as such. These “Low IQ retards” have a vested interest in the perpetuation of the status quo.

End the status quo and undermine their support base through a mass education (on people rights and politicians responsibilities) and literacy program so regular people can challenge these politicians at every level.

My sentiments exactly. So the first step to resolving this situation satisfactorily is to provide nourishment and health to ALL Pakistanis and to increase our average IQ to at least 95. We are currently at 84. It can be done with the right governance and iron-clad discipline.

 

[Path-Finder]

the pain in this tooi wal is so visible

 

[ziaulislam]

You must misinterpret what I am saying to try and look good. Go back and show me where I have said that debt is bad? What I have said, is that we are currently in a debt trap by IMF and have IMF puppets making sure it remains that way.

CPEC isn't IMF debt. That said, you can mismanage CPEC horrendously and end up with a ton of Chinese debt. It takes competence to achieve anything in life and Imran Khan is an incompetent, clueless fool being cheered by the likes of you. His 'accomplishments' are mediocre so far, as are your feeble attempts at making him look great.

Got it so you are only against IMF
everything else is great?
Okay then lets see if 2024 we end up with IMF if we do we will both sing together against imran khan

Meanwhile we can sing together against nawazsharif and zardari and priase imran khan for positive CAD while it lasts ..

because as i said before printing fake notes that leads to popularity among people and ultimately IMF is very tempting ..will imran khan do that noone knows..nawaz and bhuttos did it
Nawaz sharif was doing great till 2016 under IMF watchful eyes ..it was only later 2017-18 that they started to print notes that led to runaway imports and CAD

 

[Microsoft]

So here is another question for your PTI lovers. Why did Imran Khan try to sabotage CPEC? Why were Chinese companies accused of mismanagement at the beginning of his tenure? Why is CPEC so delayed? And lastly, why hasn't he made a visit to Gawadar? Why is this traitor doing everything in his power to destroy CPEC? It is only recently that the deep state has pressurized him to make some advancement. If CPEC were left in Imran Khan's hands, there would be no CPEC.

He literally said (and I quote): Our economic future is now linked to China
Is that enough support of CPEC for you?

 

[CriticalThought]

Got it so you are only against IMF
everything else is great?
Okay then lets see if 2024 we end up with IMF if we do we will both sing together against imran khan

Meanwhile we can sing together against nawazsharif and zardari and priase imran khan for positive CAD while it lasts ..

because as i said before printing fake notes that leads to popularity among people and ultimately IMF is very tempting ..will imran khan do that noone knows..nawaz and bhuttos did it
Nawaz sharif was doing great till 2016 under IMF watchful eyes ..it was only later 2017-18 that they started to print notes that led to runaway imports and CAD

Yes, printing notes causes runaway imports, what genius! You are clueless and one more victim of bad Pakistani education. Stop it already.

He literally said (and I quote): Our economic future is now linked to China
Is that enough support of CPEC for you?

He also fired verbal shots for Kashmir. He is a demagogue who can only give you words. It takes limited intelligence to fall for somebody's words, especially when said somebody believes in U turns.

 

[Microsoft]

He also fired verbal shots for Kashmir. He is a demagogue who can only give you words. It takes limited intelligence to fall for somebody's words, especially when said somebody believes in U turns.

Who's this with limited intelligence:

Why were Chinese companies accused of mismanagement at the beginning of his tenure?

 

[CriticalThought]

Who's this with limited intelligence:

Exactly. The morons who tried to destroy our relationship with China are certainly lacking in neurons.

 

[Microsoft]

Exactly. The morons who tried to destroy our relationship with China are certainly lacking in neurons.

Weren't those just words you fell for?

 

[CriticalThought]

Weren't those just words you fell for?

Now I will have to call you a moron. The issue here isn't just the words or my interpretation of them, but the material effect they had on our relationship with China. If globaltimes doesn't write a scathing piece, it doesn't mean that there are no consequences for irresponsible and dangerous statements made by PTI ministers under the leadership of Imran Khan.

 

[Microsoft]

Now I will have to call you a moron. The issue here isn't just the words or my interpretation of them, but the material effect they had on our relationship with China. If globaltimes doesn't write a scathing piece, it doesn't mean that there are no consequences for irresponsible and dangerous statements made by PTI ministers under the leadership of Imran Khan.

Now I have to mention that khota biryani has probably given you brain damage because CPEC is progressing and you're still waiting for your pops Nawaz to loot some more.

 

[CriticalThought]

Now I have to mention that khota biryani has probably given you mad cow disease because CPEC is progressing and you're still waiting for your pops Nawaz to loot some more.

Inbreeding has limited your intellect. Get lost.