Hate Speech in a Secular State

[Black Widow]

abusing and offending each other all the time will bring peace? and what about people of different caste and states? should they abuse each other too?

Keeping the abuse and hate in heart also not bring peace. Let it be open, let us know who thinks what...

 

[jayron]

Keeping the abuse and hate in heart also not bring peace. Let it be open, let us know who thinks what...

Not something people do in a covilized society

 

[Markus]

Not something people do in a covilized society

One part of the society is already doing it. How do you intent to stop them ?

 

[Black Widow]

Not something people do in a covilized society

I don't think Americans are less civilized, if they can, why can't we?

 

[Iggy]

What strength are you talking about? This idiot ran with his tails between the legs to London as soon as he came to know about this video going viral..

I know!! That kind of "strength" is what I need him to show in Jail too.. He should know that talking is easy, making it in to action will result in different consequences.

 

[KS]

May be no political leader abused prophet...But calling for chopping hands, calling for seducing muslim girls yes they did. Yes you are right this man owaisi was even bad than them. He deserves maximum punishment. Just like crowd existed on many hate speaches it existed on this guys too.

So you agree that not one Hindu leader has called your prophet or Allah any names. Good. Did you hear this guys speech and what he talked about Lord Ram, Lakshmi and Kaushalya ? Chopping hands - that of those who raise hands against Hindus with evil intentions. Does not have 1/100th of the venom in this speech. And even in that case he was arrested that evening under NSA and everyone went ballistic on him. So try something better. Anyway do you think we dont hear what transpires in each and every friday sermon in many mosques across India..please dont try to insult anyone's intelligence and please dont try to defend this chutiya's speech with all kind of riders. It only makes you look like you agree with those views but just condemning him publicly out of compulsion.

Yes, Indeed majority, overall majority muslims do consider them as indians..May be few idiots dont...but for people like you are one of the reason for it.. Many non-muslims do not consider us as Indians.

Dont you dare put the blame on "people like me". We did not drill down the concepts of Ummah, kaffirs,jehad, Pakistan etc into their heads.


p.s.: You did not make any sense about "tamil" Tamil" something you said and I am also not going to entertain you trying to take the topic offtopic.

 

[KS]

@KRAIT

Owaisi has been charged under 3 sections - Sec 121 (waging or attempting to wage war, or abetting waging of war, against the Government of India), Sec 153A (promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion, race, place of birth, language etc and doing acts prejudicial to maintenance of harmony) and 295A (deliberate and malicious acts intended to outrage religious feelings of any class by insulting its religion or religious beliefs).

Out of these two are NBW - Sec 121 and Sec 153A.

This guy is officially in soup, provided they follow up on the cases.

 

[indushek]

So you agree that not one Hindu leader has called your prophet or Allah any names. Good. Did you hear this guys speech and what he talked about Lord Ram, Lakshmi and Kaushalya ? Chopping hands - that of those who raise hands against Hindus with evil intentions. Does not have 1/100th of the venom in this speech. And even in that case he was arrested that evening under NSA and everyone went ballistic on him. So try something better. Anyway do you think we dont hear what transpires in each and every friday sermon in many mosques across India..please dont try to insult anyone's intelligence.




Dont you dare put the blame on "people like me". We did not drill down the concepts of Ummah, kaffirs, Pakistan etc into their heads.


p.s.: You did not make any sense about "tamil" Tamil" something you said and I am also not going to entertain you trying to take the topic offtopic.

The problem right now is that the political leaders aren't adjusting to the face of social media. A decade back some leader or nutjob did something it wouldn't spread across until the media covered it and the leaders raised at a national level. Paid media or biased media isn't new to India and so there was escape or atleast respite. Now with youtube facebook twitter and other forums no paid media boss can stop disseminating the information. Guess he didn't expect this strong reaction other than his strongholds where he wanted his speech to make effect.

The hypocracy of secularism is out and shining brightly now, the silence of media on this issue is rather expected.

 

[arbit]

He is a slimy spineless bastard. But you can do such thing only in India cos we are equally spineless.

Oh and just for argument sake, the last time police didnt act for 15 mins, 25 cr muslims wiping out 100 cr hindus remained a pipe dream. Rather exact opposite happened on a smaller scale. Thats why Modi is still vilified to date.

This guy should get out of Hyderabad's ghetto sometime and visit other parts of country more extensively.

 

[Iggy]

Agreed his freedom of speech (if that exists in Hindustan) should be protected, his speech is of no difference than what BT or some other Hindu maniac would say in public halls all across that country.

Ohh freedom of speech do exist in India, it doesnt mean that any a$$hole can say things and get away with it.. BJP or BT leaders got arrested with in days of Hate speech and you want this guy to be not punished just because he is a muslim??

The below line is from Wikipedia:

The freedom of speech and of the press does not confer an absolute right to express without any responsibility. Lord Denning, in his famous book Road to Justice, observed that press is the watchdog to see that every trial is conducted fairly, openly and above board, but the watchdog may sometimes break loose and has to be punished for misbehaviour.[11] With the same token Clause (2) of Article 19 of the Indian constitution enables the legislature to impose reasonable restrictions on free speech under following heads:
I. security of the State,
II. friendly relations with foreign States,
III. public order,
IV. decency and morality,
V. contempt of court,
VI. defamation,
VII. incitement to an offence, and
VIII. sovereignty and integrity of India.

Owaisi is called "Deccan Tiger" by his people, he earned the title. The Hindus in Gujarat have Modhi, the Muslims in Hyderabad have Owaisi.

Decan Tiger my A$$.. He is just a coward who is going to get him people killed for his own benefit.. He is nothing than a idiot who do not respect other religions..

 

[KS]

The problem right now is that the political leaders aren't adjusting to the face of social media. A decade back some leader or nutjob did something it wouldn't spread across until the media covered it and the leaders raised at a national level. Paid media or biased media isn't new to India and so there was escape or atleast respite. Now with youtube facebook twitter and other forums no paid media boss can stop disseminating the information. Guess he didn't expect this strong reaction other than his strongholds where he wanted his speech to make effect.

The hypocracy of secularism is out and shining brightly now, the silence of media on this issue is rather expected.

Precisely put mate. Social media is playing a huge role in forcing Govt, media to act on various issues and this is one such where it was twitter that alone forced the Govt, court and police to initiate action.

As regards secularism - read this link - What has secularism got to do with it?

 

[Black Widow]

Agreed his freedom of speech (if that exists in Hindustan) should be protected, his speech is of no difference than what BT or some other Hindu maniac would say in public halls all across that country.
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Unfortunately India has no "absolute" Freedom of speech like USA. Though I support absolute freedom of speech.

Read my earlier posts

 

[indushek]

Precisely put mate. Social media is playing a huge role in forcing Govt, media to act on various issues and this is one such where it was twitter that alone forced the Govt, court and police to initiate action.

I found Farhan Akhtar's comment the best of the reactionary ones. He says for posting a quote on Face book two girls were arrested and no action on this ??

The real pathetic thing is this person has in the same video challenged the CM of Andhra kiran kumar reddy by saying "hum tumhe chain say baithne nahi denge". The reaction of CM when asked about hate speech " the law will take its course". The media eggs him further and he says "Go and ask the Police it is their work". A perfect Congress CM.

Lovely cuddly Diggy "(solemnly) hate speeches of this kind by anybody should be condemned and prosecuted".

Shabana "These kind of reactions are a mirror to the Hindu actions (not exact words) but still they should be prosecuted".

 

[KS]

I found Farhan Akhtar's comment the best of the reactionary ones. He says for posting a quote on Face book two girls were arrested and no action on this ??

The real pathetic thing is this person has in the same video challenged the CM of Andhra kiran kumar reddy by saying "hum tumhe chain say baithne nahi denge". The reaction of CM when asked about hate speech " the law will take its course". The media eggs him further and he says "Go and ask the Police it is their work". A perfect Congress CM.

Lovely cuddly Diggy "(solemnly) hate speeches of this kind by anybody should be condemned and prosecuted".

Shabana "These kind of reactions are a mirror to the Hindu actions (not exact words) but still they should be prosecuted".

Unlike some of the reactions like Minhaz Merchant or Najeeb Jung, I found most of the reactions totally artificial and always with the rider, we condemn this, BUT.....

If some one is adding a BUT in his statement then we can safely ignore whatever he/she is trying to tell before that.

And this guy Owaisi seems to be a habitual offendor..in that link I posted there is a list of his inflammatory speeches dating as far back as 1996..

 

[indushek]

Unlike some of the reactions like Minhaz Merchant or Najeeb Jung, I found most of the reactions totally artificial and always with the rider, we condemn this, BUT.....

If some one is adding a BUT in his statement then we can safely ignore whatever he/she is trying to tell before that.

And this guy Owaisi seems to be a habitual offendor..in that link I posted there is a list of his inflammatory speeches dating as far back as 1996..

Oh its not just the owaisi jr his family strives on this kind of cheap talk.

However its the congress who is stuck now they can't openly support his prosecution for muslim vote bank and they can't stall either for popular reaction. Nice to watch how they will play this, i wish somebody could bring that lady for interview who brought that term Internet Hindu don't remember her name. Guess she would not be taking any calls on this. Arundhati Roy doesn't seem to speak up now, may be she isn't feeling well.