Hate Speech in a Secular State

[Agnostic_Indian]

Bal Thackeray - Dead but ideology still lives. Many Bally supporters here on PDF

Shiv Sena - Almost dead? Dude the last incident of that organization was one of its members confessing to a mosque bombing. -Last week.

Gujarat 2002- Old, but is still fresh in Indian Muslim minds. Modi is still under watch.

Mumbai 1992- Old, but Muslims are persecuted by Shiv Sena gangs still

Ayodhya- Still fresh in Muslims mind. Caused huge uproar, in retaliation many temples were torn down in Pakistan

Samjhauta - Fresh in every Pakistanis mind

There are cases against modi so let the court give a verdict.

Thakare is dead, slowly his ideology too will, second generation shivsena leaders are just not good enough.

You said many temples were brought down in Pakistan against one incident happened in Indian, then there is something terribly wrong in Pakistani Muslims mind set towards their Hindu brothers..spare some time to worry about that too.

 

[Icewolf]

There are cases against modi so let the court give a verdict.

Thakare is dead, slowly his ideology too will, second generation shivsena leaders are just not good enough.

You said many temples were brought down in Pakistan against one incident happened in Indian, then there is something terribly wrong in Pakistani Muslims mind set towards their Hindu brothers..spare some time to worry about that too.

Lol you think Indian Court will sentence him? Put Modi in a international court lets see how he stands

His ideology is growing stronger ever since he died

first the temple taking down was a retaliation to babri masjid.
everything after that was unacceptable, what hindus did to muslims with awkward Indian govt looking on helplessly

 

[Agnostic_Indian]

Lol you think Indian Court will sentence him? Put Modi in a international court lets see how he stands

His ideology is growing stronger ever since he died

first the temple taking down was a retaliation to babri masjid.
everything after that was unacceptable, what hindus did to muslims with awkward Indian govt looking on helplessly

if Indian court can punish modi's minister, then it can punish modi too if found guilty.

retaliation to something happened in India, so your fellow Muslims see pak Hindus as representatives of Indian Hindus.

 

[acid rain]

I don't think this SOB is coming back to India, if he stays in London he will be inciting London Muslims towards terrorism and violence, Britain should send back such people because they have a lot of such people holed up in England and it will cause more 7/7 kind of attacks.

He will enjoy a long jail time or the gallows if he steps into India.

 

[Icewolf]

if Indian court can punish modi's minister, then it can punish modi too if found guilty.

retaliation to something happened in India, so your fellow Muslims see pak Hindus as representatives of Indian Hindus.

nope we saw it as a act by hindus regardless of nationality

 

[jayron]

nope we saw it as a act by hindus regardless of nationality

so proud of your idiocy.. great

 

[doublemaster]

There will be plenty...remember Owaisi just gives the audience what they want..


@doublemaster - remember what happened in Guj when police were allegedly (according to you guys) were removed for two days..this Owaisi is asking the same for you...actually I dont care..but just dont play victim after that.

Arent you guys reading my post carefully? who supported him now? My point is these kind of people exists either side...Both deserves same treatment... If any one think so, then i am with him...But people like you support one side and criticize other side.

Just like varun gandhi and many other gave audience what they want...this guy also gave audience same....

What i asked was...why the hell people jump in joy and post -ve news about indian muslims in pak forum to prove how bad muslims are....What makes you forget that Muslims are also Indians? Why dont you consider this as some internal issue?

But, recently some one posted cast war news...many here jumped and asked to close the thread saying that Indian local news are banned topic...isnt it? Isnt this also a local stupid news?

 

[KS]

Arent you guys reading my post carefully? who supported him now? My point is these kind of people exists either side...Both deserves same treatment... If any one think so, then i am with him...But people like you support one side and criticize other side.

There has not been a single, I repeat single, Hindu political leader who has spoken ill of your prophet or allah in a public meeting or has called for a war between Hindus and Muslims. So dont trivialize this issue. This guy has been slapped with Sec 121 for the right reason.

What i asked was...why the hell people jump in joy and post -ve news about indian muslims in pak forum to prove how bad muslims are....What makes you forget that Muslims are also Indians? Why dont you consider this as some internal issue?

Who jumped in joy ? If at all the look at the cheering crowds only makes me worried about the future of India and these peoples themselves. And this news has been posted in the Indian subsection and it has a huge number of Indian audience. Who cares about the Pakistanis. I myself have not replied to them. Instead of bickering on where it is posted try to understand that such combative mentality as shown by Owaisi can only get muslims injured where they are in minority.

Regarding not considering Muslims as Indians, do they consider themselves as Indian ? That is the most important point. Dont worry about me. And I can certainly say that this crowd does not consider themselves Indian.

 

[Manas]

Gand phado is chutuiya Key....

 

[doublemaster]

There has not been a single, I repeat single, Hindu political leader who has spoken ill of your prophet or allah in a public meeting or has called for a war between Hindus and Muslims. So dont trivialize this issue. This guy has been slapped with Sec 121 for the right reason.



Who jumped in joy ? If at all the look at the cheering crowds only makes me worried about the future of India and these peoples themselves. And this news has been posted in the Indian subsection and it has a huge number of Indian audience. Who cares about the Pakistanis. I myself have not replied to them. Instead of bickering on where it is posted try to understand that such combative mentality as shown by Owaisi can only get muslims injured where they are in minority.

Regarding not considering Muslims as Indians, do they consider themselves as Indian ? That is the most important point. Dont worry about me. And I can certainly say that this crowd does not consider themselves Indian.

May be no political leader abused prophet...But calling for chopping hands, calling for seducing muslim girls yes they did. Yes you are right this man owaisi was even bad than them. He deserves maximum punishment. Just like crowd existed on many hate speaches it existed on this guys too.

I know it posted in Indian section, But why cast wars of India news people asked to ban citing it as local news? But why bad news associated with local muslims ok? Because you guys associate them with pak.

Yes, Indeed majority, overall majority muslims do consider them as indians..May be few idiots dont...but for people like you are one of the reason for it.. Many non-muslims do not consider us as Indians.

Dude, For you Tamil India haters are "Tambi...Thambi..." and Indians....Even though they say openly they would fight against (some thing similar) us you consider them as Indians....
You consider them as Indian even though when they said "we love India if...Tamils...."

So, I dont care about your classification of Indians and Non-Indians....

 

[Black Widow]

Gand phado is chutuiya Key....

Ok done...

India should have US like freedom of speech (Absolute freedom of speech). Nothing should be screened. By sweeping hate under Carpet or bed, we ain't gonna change anything. Let the truth come, let us see how Hindu and Muslims hate each other...


Unless we know how Hindus and Muslims hate each other, how can we look for solution. We must know after giving 30% Indian land, After treating them (Muslims) Like Damad (Son In Law) why they are angry? Do they want another partition??/


If they want another partition, give them 30% more land.. Whats problem in it...

 

[Bang Galore]

May be no political leader abused prophet...But calling for chopping hands, calling for seducing muslim girls yes they did. Yes you are right this man owaisi was even bad than them. He deserves maximum punishment. Just like crowd existed on many hate speaches it existed on this guys too.

I know it posted in Indian section, But why cast wars of India news people asked to ban citing it as local news? But why bad news associated with local muslims ok? Because you guys associate them with pak.


..........So, I dont care about your classification of Indians and Non-Indians....

Some positions simply cannot be defended. This is one such case. Many "Hindu" leaders have abused "Muslims" but almost never has it been (as far as I know) about the religious figures involved. This was a case where both types of attacks were done and in a particularly nasty manner not likely to endear the "Muslim" community to adherents of the majority faith. It was both stupid & dangerous, not for Owaisi himself who might still get his political mileage but for the average Muslim on the street.

This is a extraordinary piece of double standards among some Muslims who go ballistic if their religion or figures within it are even slightly mocked but show no compunction while doing the same with those from another religion.

I believe that freedom of speech should exist where most remarks are tolerated but certainly not one where the freedom exists only in one direction.

 

[Markus]

When will this ba$tard be arrested ?

What a ******* country India has become ?

An elected representative speaks in this fashion.

He must be buried alive right next to Kasab.

 

[Black Widow]

Haan freedom of speech ke naam pe kisi ne prophet of religion of peace ke naam do achchay shabd bol diye to fir dekhna beth ke tamasha.. Freedom of speech is there in India but for idiots like Owaisi and few others who paint others god in the way they want to but if some one make a small cartoon joke on their prophet they blow the world over..
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We all know how we think about "Islam" and its "Prophets" Only thing is we don't say it openly. Its good to say it openly rather saying it on coffee table.

We all know what Muslims feel about "Kaffirs" , Let them say it openly.

Learn from USA, The Pastor threat to burn Koran, He was taught that all follower of Koran are not bad, he drop the idea. The growing covered hate yield Godhra train burning...

 

[jayron]

We all know how we think about "Islam" and its "Prophets" Only thing is we don't say it openly. Its good to say it openly rather saying it on coffee table.

We all know what Muslims feel about "Kaffirs" , Let them say it openly.

Learn from USA, The Pastor threat to burn Koran, He was taught that all follower of Koran are not bad, he drop the idea. The growing covered hate yield Godhra train burning...

abusing and offending each other all the time will bring peace? and what about people of different caste and states? should they abuse each other too?