Hate Killings & Violence in India : Updates, News & Discussion

[Naofumi]

No one should be arrested/charged/imprisoned for mere words said.

You're getting too libertarian, I hope it's your genuine beliefs but in religious and ethnically nationalist countries, hate speech can incite violence. So, in my opinion it's not universalist to say that.

Rule of law is different measure of different indicator to what I am saying. The US simply has the maximised personal freedom anywhere in the world (in the classical liberal mold developed during western enlightment) given 1A and 2A. It doesnt exist anywhere else in the world. Neither can any "index" fairly capture and represent that in my opinion since its a threshold frontier rather than simple realpolitik application/situation. But frontiers are important to the downstream reality too...since they define the operating space.

No, having something written in the constitution does not mean, it's true. US is also famous for it's private jails, homeless people, electing Trump, Christian bigots etc. US ranks 25 on democracy index, 27 on social mobility index and 48 on Press freedom index. Being rich does not mean, you're automatically best in everything

Neither can any "index" fairly capture and represent that in my opinion

Disagree

Also, since now you're talking sensibly, may I ask you about the source of that news?

Also what is your general view of the origin of RSS and Savarkar?

Strange as it may appear, Mr. Savarkar and Mr. Jinnah, instead of being opposed to each other on the one nation versus two nations issue, are in complete agreement about it. Both agree, not only agree but insist, that there are two nations in India—one the Muslim nation and the other the Hindu nation. They differ only as regards the terms and conditions on which the two nations should live. Mr. Jinnah says India should be cut up into two, Pakistan and Hindustan, the Muslim nation to occupy Pakistan and the Hindu nation to occupy Hindustan. Mr. Savarkar on the other hand insists that, although there are two nations in India, India shall not be divided into two parts, one for Muslims and the other for the Hindus; that the two nations shall dwell in one country and shall live under the mantle of one single constitution; that the constitution shall be such that the Hindu nation will be enabled to occupy a predominant position that is due to it and the Muslim nation made to live in the position of subordinate co-operation with the Hindu nation.[/QUOTE]

Ambedkar on Savarkar, and I assume you're also aware of the Savarkar's celebration of Nazism and desire to implement it in India?

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[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

When Muslims turn a blind eye to immense suffering and oppression of other Muslims, the end of the world is near.

yeah that what the kashmiris are telling sarkari muslay to our east

 

[Nilgiri]

You're getting too libertarian, I hope it's your genuine beliefs but in religious and ethnically nationalist countries, hate speech can incite violence. So, in my opinion it's not universalist to say that.

No, having something written in the constitution does not mean, it's true. US is also famous for it's private jails, homeless people, electing Trump, Christian bigots etc. US ranks 25 on democracy index, 27 on social mobility index and 48 on Press freedom index. Being rich does not mean, you're automatically best in everything

Disagree

Also, since now you're talking sensibly, may I ask you about the source of that news?

Also what is your general view of the origin of RSS and Savarkar?
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Its getting off topic a lot. Maybe develop your post count bit more, interact with few more members here etc...and get back bit later when things bit calmer.

This is very long conversation stuff you are asking. I am not saying "being richest" = best on indices at all. I am just saying there is a frontier established differently in different countries and that dictates a lot about how they actually have space to operate in rgd the real world.

And no I am not libertarian....I speak w.r.t a theoretical frontier on certain issues. Where there is restriction in free speech, there are underlying reasons in society too. Every society is quite different. Each human life has only 80 years give or take at most....societies are much bigger time scale and carry far more weight. Therein lies a problem in itself.

 

[BHarwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233066918539476995

 

[graphican]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233066918539476995

And Twitter is broadcasting all this still?

If twitter does not remove this content, it should be taken to courts for being the broadcaster of hatred, violence and potential genocide.

 

[Naofumi]

it should be taken to courts

Courts have become imbecile, Modi only wants judges who can stick their toungue in his a**hole for example this guy
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-versatile-genius-arun-mishra-1649096-2020-02-22
If someone dares to question his party or RSS, then this happens
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...sident-muralidhar-delhi-hc-1650414-2020-02-27

 

[BHarwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233095351633973248

https://twitter.com/x/status/1232763321163579395

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233241203006738434

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233241552769687553

 

[Naofumi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1232763321163579395

https://twitter.com/x/status/1232900193101565952

 

[BHarwana]

The death toll of Delhi massacre has risen to 40 in official figures and 4 mosques have been burned so far.

 

[Naofumi]

Nazi intellectuals

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233252059853578242

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Nazi intellectuals

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233252059853578242

Can't be a more oxymoronic statement than this...these are golden words to be written in letters of gold.


Vandalism, Arson, Loot: In Ashok Nagar, Homes & Shops Around Masjid Also Gutted | The Quint

Delhi Violence: Here's What the Injured & Hospital Officials Have to Say | The Quint

 

[Naofumi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233271177214341120

 

[SIPRA]

Nazi intellectuals

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233252059853578242

I am certain that at least 85% of the educated Hindus maintain the same belief, whether they express it openly or not. This is the fact that every Indian Muslim must retain in his mind.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233271177214341120

Extremely painful image.

 

[terry5]

M A Jinnah is up there with nelson Mandela maybe more so

what a clever clever man

 

[Mentee]

Courts have become imbecile, Modi only wants judges who can stick their toungue in his a**hole for example this guy
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-versatile-genius-arun-mishra-1649096-2020-02-22
If someone dares to question his party or RSS, then this happens
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...sident-muralidhar-delhi-hc-1650414-2020-02-27

Indian govt can Transfer a high court judge? nice going world's biggest democracy.