Hassan Nisar blasted in favor of PTI Dharna!

[Norwegian]

Lukman was promised to be the Federal Minister of Information if IK toppled the government.

LOL. Where? Link or is this another conspiracy theory?

 

[Jzaib]

IF ONLY I can tell you how corrupted Hassan Nissar is!!! Lukman, Hassan and a few selected others are "journalists for hire", Lukman was promised to be the Federal Minister of Information if IK toppled the government. You guys have plenty of these people inside your country. India is DEFINITELY nothing to worry about as these people combined with the anti-system people will destroy your country. 500+ billion already lost with many lives and hundreds injured....

any source of ur propaganda? US and india is already controlling Nawaz, RSS is doing protest in favour of nawaz, US is helping them. India already have a mole. Nawaz Sarif is busy in promoting Anti Pakistan channel geo.

LOL. Where? Link or is this another conspiracy theory?

what a coincident we both asked the same question. He is a lunatic sitting in USA and he blames other for being anti Pakistan.

 

[Dubious]

Lukman was promised to be the Federal Minister of Information if IK toppled the government.

Links? Proof or hearsay as 90% of the things on media ARE...

India is DEFINITELY nothing to worry about as these people combined with the anti-system people will destroy your country. 500+ billion already lost with many lives and hundreds injured....

Lets not forget to include the whole bag of chips in the parliament who do a drama every now and then.....

 

[Jzaib]

Links? Proof or hearsay as 90% of the things on media ARE...
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it is not even on media. GulluButt wrote that in a letter to him .

 

[Viper0011.]

Links? Proof or hearsay as 90% of the things on media ARE...

Lets not forget to include the whole bag of chips in the parliament who do a drama every now and then.....

Oh there is a LOT of proof. I won't ever be able to post it on here. Btw, go see just a few years ago what this Lukman guy used to drive....a crappy motor cycle. Today, he drives a nice Mercedes......are journalist paid that much? This guy used to BEG a few journalist from Geo to take him with them to Marriott Islamabad and introduce him to Western Dignitaries from different embassies. He used to black mail people for mere 100 K. It should all be available through your media. I've met this crooked fellow with a couple of his buddies and know a LOT about him.

By the way, one of you asking for proof is pretty interesting......where are the proofs of "rigging", the 500 billion lost was going to NS's bank account, the Chinese pres was coming to give loans (even so, it would've created many millions of jobs but it was all investment)....yea but where are the proofs???

Lets not forget to include the whole bag of chips in the parliament who do a drama every now and then.....

Yea, the difference is, others doing such a drama doesn't rape a country financially with a loss of 500 + billion and then add innocents dead and hundreds Injured and he bad reputation across the globe. And cancelled visits from foreign guests who come to Pakistan rarely anyways. Shame on people trying to harm their country to this degree and still supporting these violent politics!

 

[Dubious]

Oh there is a LOT of proof. I won't ever be able to post it on here.

Why not? So hearsay?

Btw, go see just a few years ago what this Lukman guy used to drive....a crappy motor cycle. Today, he drives a nice Mercedes......are journalist paid that much?

Just a few years ago NS's accounts had xyz amount, even all 3 of his wives had some amount, look at each's account today NS showed he is some poor and paid some 20k worth of tax while a normal person pays some 100k worth of taxes...who are we kidding when you want to point at thrives please show all in the same light dont dim the light on few!

I am not supporting any journalist...Heck I am against each and every one of them! Not until they put up proof they are paid agents of their own ego!

By the way, one of you asking for proof is pretty interesting......where are the proofs of "rigging", the 500 billion lost was going to NS's bank account, the Chinese pres was coming to give loans (even so, it would've created many millions of jobs but it was all investment)....yea but where are the proofs???

the NS's bank account was already posted...in a thread I am sure you can help yourself as you are asking me to find stuff

As for the Chinese press for loans I am not sure neither did I talk about it...so not sure why bring it up with me!

Yea, the difference is, others doing such a drama doesn't rape a country financially with a loss of 500 + billion and then add innocents dead and hundreds Injured and he bad reputation across the globe. And cancelled visits from foreign guests who come to Pakistan rarely anyways. Shame on people trying to harm their country to this degree and still supporting these violent politics!

Yea but other's drama results in trigger happiness leading to shooting of 14 in Model town and another 7 or whatever the number the stupid media are showing for Dharna....

And lets not forget the police breaking food vans...what was that? Democratic freedom to protest?

Lets also not forget the backbiting and circus in the parliament since all this started how each started pointing fingers, threatening (PPP guy who said I will take all my staff with me and NS will be left with no one) the other clown (who said NS should realize his friends and foes - is that democracy...in which language?)..lets also not forget the lies endless blatant lies and the pulling in of the army then many crying army is running the case? wow! NS literally begged the army to be moderator and then said Army came to help be the moderator...wow! PM lying is bad as he is supposed to be the top man!

And cancelled visits from foreign guests who come to Pakistan rarely anyways. Shame on people trying to harm their country to this degree and still supporting these violent politics!

Well the FO of China dated 6th Sept said the China man wanted to visit Pakistan later this mth (meaning middle to end of Sept) but media was already crying he cancelled thanks to IK dharna which well started from middle of Aug and now its beginning of the moth...something in the timeline no one bothers to check ....

 

[Jzaib]

Oh there is a LOT of proof. I won't ever be able to post it on here. Btw, go see just a few years ago what this Lukman guy used to drive....a crappy motor cycle. Today, he drives a nice Mercedes......are journalist paid that much? This guy used to BEG a few journalist from Geo to take him with them to Marriott Islamabad and introduce him to Western Dignitaries from different embassies. He used to black mail people for mere 100 K. It should all be available through your media. I've met this crooked fellow with a couple of his buddies and know a LOT about him.

By the way, one of you asking for proof is pretty interesting......where are the proofs of "rigging", the 500 billion lost was going to NS's bank account, the Chinese pres was coming to give loans (even so, it would've created many millions of jobs but it was all investment)....yea but where are the proofs???



Yea, the difference is, others doing such a drama doesn't rape a country financially with a loss of 500 + billion and then add innocents dead and hundreds Injured and he bad reputation across the globe. And cancelled visits from foreign guests who come to Pakistan rarely anyways. Shame on people trying to harm their country to this degree and still supporting these violent politics!

alot of bullshit. Almost all anchors have BMW,s and Mercedes in Pakistan. Given by the channel and they are very highly paid. AN average channel pays more then a million to an average host .

proof of rigging is visible by 15 halqa tumb verification . PMLN is blocking more tumb verification, let them allow and u will find it in every halqqa of punjab. Please google NA 118, NA 122 for recent proofs of rigging.

 

[Fracker]

I cannot see his video from Geo. Any link?

Even I can't I searched it but didn't find. I saw yesterday on tv. Sorry about that..

 

[Viper0011.]

Why not? So hearsay?

Just a few years ago NS's accounts had xyz amount, even all 3 of his wives had some amount, look at each's account today NS showed he is some poor and paid some 20k worth of tax while a normal person pays some 100k worth of taxes...who are we kidding when you want to point at thrives please show all in the same light dont dim the light on few!

the NS's bank account was already posted...in a thread I am sure you can help yourself as you are asking me to find stuff

As for the Chinese press for loans I am not sure neither did I talk about it...so not sure why bring it up with me!

Yea but other's drama results in trigger happiness leading to shooting of 14 in Model town and another 7 or whatever the number the stupid media are showing for Dharna....
And lets not forget the police breaking food vans...what was that? Democratic freedom to protest?
Well the FO of China dated 6th Sept said the China man wanted to visit Pakistan later this mth....

I'll try to answer your uncoordinated questions into a more coordinated way if I can:
1) NS or others did corruption......fine with me, they should go to Jail. Why don't you come up with proofs and take them to the Supreme Court. If you have the statements, its a simple deal. But writing posts on here ain't getting you justice. The courts will get you justice if your proofs are solid. And NO, not all the courts are "sold out". That's a crazy statement.

2) Chinese loan deal is just as connected to the visit of the Chinese pres here. When you talk about one issue, the other one also comes up as they are connected.
The Chinese pres was coming, his security team didn't give out security clearance and they backed out. Then government of Pakistan discussed that with the military and the military told IK to MOVE his lazy as* elsewhere. If he was STILL sitting there, no one will come. Its a direct relationship.

3) When you attack ANY country's police, you'll get shot at. No matter where you live. The 14 dead didn't need to get into a confrontation with the police. Similarly, when you attack a parliament building, you'll get retaliated against whether food trucks or baby diapers. You can't do terrorism and expect others to treat you royally. Interesting concept of yours.
Tell IK or Mullah to try to do these events for a DAY in the UK or Canada. They'll be shipped to GITMO for terrorism related charges the same day!

alot of bullshit. Almost all anchors have BMW,s and Mercedes in Pakistan. Given by the channel and they are very highly paid. AN average channel pays more then a million to an average host .

proof of rigging is visible by 15 halqa tumb verification . PMLN is blocking more tumb verification, let them allow and u will find it in every halqqa of punjab. Please google NA 118, NA 122 for recent proofs of rigging.

I wasn't referring to ALL anchors...I AM referring to two here in question. Lukman specifically. There is a joke around here about him, its called "look man, here are the $$". Hope this helps you understand how well he's known outside of the US due to his corruption. A third class journalist for sure. If you see his way of talk and writing, you can just see his crooked personality. Not sure how you can't use common sense in reading people.

Who is PMLN to block anything? Take your proofs to the legal system......IF the proofs exist. Otherwise, you shouldn't comment on here. And NO, judges are not sold. Please keep that silly argument to yourself.

 

[Jzaib]

I wasn't referring to ALL anchors...I AM referring to two here in question. Lukman specifically. There is a joke around here about him, its called "look man, here are the $$". Hope this helps you understand how well he's known outside of the US due to his corruption. A third class journalist for sure. If you see his way of talk and writing, you can just see his crooked personality. Not sure how you can't use common sense in reading people.

Who is PMLN to block anything? Take your proofs to the legal system......IF the proofs exist. Otherwise, you shouldn't comment on here. And NO, judges are not sold. Please keep that silly argument to yourself.

i was just pointing out the fact that he got fancy cars and house bcoz of his company. every anchor have it. U might have heard things about him but i have met with him . u can hate him but he goes out of the way to fight what he thinks is right. he get constant raids at home, constant channel blockade, constantly taken off air and constantly harassed bu authorities in Punjab. A backmailer would have backed out.Trust me if he have a nickle of illegal money. Government will not spare him . he goes out of the way to fight of political God's . He have does same with PPP. On PMLN is main focus as they rule the province he lives in .

PS: u might have heard about him, i have met him. He is very good with youth. Next time you are in Lahore get in touch and find out for your self .

 

[Dubious]

I'll try to answer your uncoordinated questions into a more coordinated way if I can:
1) NS or others did corruption......fine with me, they should go to Jail. Why don't you come up with proofs and take them to the Supreme Court. If you have the statements, its a simple deal. But writing posts on here ain't getting you justice. The courts will get you justice if your proofs are solid. And NO, not all the courts are "sold out". That's a crazy statement.

1) PTI was doing that before this dharna....

2) let me give you an example of the level the courts are sold out:

Same thing in dailymotion:

Summary:
PPP senator of Sindh resigns coz even he couldnt issue a case against the ex-CJ known as Iftikar chaudary....

If a senator...be it PPP or any other party couldnt go against "some" figures...you tell me how can a normal human being can?

2) Chinese loan deal is just as connected to the visit of the Chinese pres here. When you talk about one issue, the other one also comes up as they are connected.
The Chinese pres was coming, his security team didn't give out security clearance and they backed out. Then government of Pakistan discussed that with the military and the military told IK to MOVE his lazy as* elsewhere. If he was STILL sitting there, no one will come. Its a direct relationship.

Sorry but the Chinese I believe can wait...wait until we get some clean people to deal with them...Plus the Chinese told that they have postponed it...and no dates were released....I am sure he understood that we have some internal issues to clean up first!

Being American you might not understand as you have never really been that friendly with any one nation except maybe your queen mother...

3) When you attack ANY country's police, you'll get shot at. No matter where you live. The 14 dead didn't need to get into a confrontation with the police. Similarly, when you attack a parliament building, you'll get retaliated against whether food trucks or baby diapers. You can't do terrorism and expect others to treat you royally. Interesting concept of yours.
Tell IK or Mullah to try to do these events for a DAY in the UK or Canada. They'll be shipped to GITMO for terrorism related charges the same day!

When you shoot from behind, the only logical response from a crowd will be to move forward...how much forward one moves depends on the pushing of the crowd!

As for attacking...that started after the shooting ....watch the videos a few more time ....

No the 14 dead were just sitting there at the barriers without sticks...they were women and children...I dont support it...but there are other ways to remove people who are just sitting there and not posing any danger!

Retaliation was inhumane to begin with...If poliemen who are supposed to protect the public have started breaking food van ...was the van with sticks? Were the people in the van confronting the police?

You dont protest and get shot...interesting concept of your blind faith in NS! Esp when you are not even Pakistani!

Well if IK or Qadri just sit in front of the parliament in any country I doubt anyone will shoot at them let alone ship them!

 

[Viper0011.]

i was just pointing out the fact that he got fancy cars and house bcoz of his company. every anchor have it. U might have heard things about him but i have met with him . u can hate him but he goes out of the way to fight what he thinks is right.
He is very good with youth. .

Re-read my post please before answering......I've met him many times. I don't hate him as its personal and I have ethical issues here. He's one of the top corrupted people who forced themselves into being "journalists" when they were really black mailers. Being good with the youth or others doesn't mean you are doing something good for the country. Entirely different meaning. IK is good with youth too but see what he's doing to the country's reputation and the tremendous financial loss he's brought on.

Sorry but the Chinese I believe can wait...wait until we get some clean people to deal with them...Plus the Chinese told that they have postponed it...and no dates were released....I am sure he understood that we have some internal issues to clean up first!
Being American you might not understand as you have never really been that friendly with any one nation except maybe your queen mother...

When you shoot from behind, the only logical response from a crowd will be to move forward...how much forward one moves depends on the pushing of the crowd!
As for attacking...that started after the shooting ....watch the videos a few more time ....

Do you think I am participating on here with lack of sense about you or your system? I know probably MORE about these "leaders" than you or majority of the people on here do. Guaranteed.
Chinese postponed it due to the Violent nature of the protests. I don't know what other language do I need to write this in. No President (let alone a President of one of the largest countries) visits unless there is a security clearance given. IK moved, no the clearance can be obtained. Otherwise, he won't come if IK sits there. End of the story.

Thank you for trying to show me personal insults. This is very IK'ish of you. When you guys can't debate (Which is 99% of the time), you guys get personal and bring "American" "Indian" and all that. Still not factually making sense! I am used to it. Just answer the questions and not how good or bad the Americans are and all.

There was no shooting from behind, show us a proof or a video, someone had to take that??? they knew it'll happen if they were to attack the police. What about other policemen killed by PAT people? Toll plaza's burnt, workers beaten to death inside, many police vehicles destroyed, buildings set on fire.....does this sound like a protest to you? It should like Terrorism done per an extremist religious clerics orders to me. Mullah has open "non-bailable" arrest warrants out there under his name by an anti-terrorism court.

 

[Dubious]

Do you think I am participating on here with lack of sense about you or your system? I know probably MORE about these "leaders" than you or majority of the people on here do. Guaranteed.

No doubt...So do you work for the CIA or FBI? or National security body or some outsourced contractor?

Chinese postponed it due to the Violent nature of the protests. I don't know what other language do I need to write this in. No President (let alone a President of one of the largest countries) visits unless there is a security clearance given. IK moved, no the clearance can be obtained. Otherwise, he won't come if IK sits there. End of the story.

And did I say anything around this story?

Thank you for trying to show me personal insults. This is very IK'ish of you. When you guys can't debate (Which is 99% of the time), you guys get personal and bring "American" "Indian" and all that. Still not factually making sense! I am used to it. Just answer the questions and not how good or bad the Americans are and all.

Is being American a personal insult to you?

I dont need to asses how good or bad Americans are coz not all people are painted with 1 brush...but how good or bad policies and policy makers are is another story....sadly they do come under the general basing of the citizens when people say : AMERICANS THIS AND THAT...when they mean your policies

There was no shooting from behind, show us a proof or a video, someone had to take that??? they knew it'll happen if they were to attack the police. What about other policemen killed by PAT people? Toll plaza's burnt, workers beaten to death inside, many police vehicles destroyed, buildings set on fire.....does this sound like a protest to you? It should like Terrorism done per an extremist religious clerics orders to me. Mullah has open "non-bailable" arrest warrants out there under his name by an anti-terrorism court.

Let see if I can find a clip for you so far its just claims by protesters themselves - which may be made up...

However you failed to also include the police going to hospitals and asking to change reports (this for sure you can find online...both reported by the bloody media as well as individual statements by people and doctors)

 

[xyxmt]

A Well known senior analyst!!!
what has he analyzed so far, other then his drunken escapades.
This is Hasan Nisar's usual bullshit

"yeh to chore hay, wo to chore hay, in ki ma ke aesi ke tesi, in ko to kutta bhi na khaye, kuttey ki pata hay khaslat kia hoti hay wo mudar bhi kha leta hay, yeh to kuttey se bhi behtar hain murdar bhi ne khatey, bus us ke kaprey utar letey hain..in ki to sesi ke tesi ker deni chaye," Sincerely Hassan Nisar

lets talk about your other favorite bull$hitter Sheikh Rasheed?

I feel sorry for those of you who get their analysis from these two clowns

 

[TankMan]

Do you think I am participating on here with lack of sense about you or your system? I know probably MORE about these "leaders" than you or majority of the people on here do. Guaranteed.
Chinese postponed it due to the Violent nature of the protests. I don't know what other language do I need to write this in. No President (let alone a President of one of the largest countries) visits unless there is a security clearance given. IK moved, no the clearance can be obtained. Otherwise, he won't come if IK sits there. End of the story.

Thank you for trying to show me personal insults. This is very IK'ish of you. When you guys can't debate (Which is 99% of the time), you guys get personal and bring "American" "Indian" and all that. Still not factually making sense! I am used to it. Just answer the questions and not how good or bad the Americans are and all.

There was no shooting from behind, show us a proof or a video, someone had to take that??? they knew it'll happen if they were to attack the police. What about other policemen killed by PAT people? Toll plaza's burnt, workers beaten to death inside, many police vehicles destroyed, buildings set on fire.....does this sound like a protest to you? It should like Terrorism done per an extremist religious clerics orders to me. Mullah has open "non-bailable" arrest warrants out there under his name by an anti-terrorism court.

You keep writing essays in response to small posts, you keep repeating the same lies over and over and over again ($500 Billion, I told you that your figure was wrong in this thread: Due to dharnas, 4 submarines, 2 jf-17 squardon and more purchases are on hold | Page 5 , which you didn't reply to)

and then you generalize all PTI supporters and say that we can't debate 99% of the times, you accuse people of "not factually making sense" even though you just posted a couple of complete conspiracy theories and can't prove them at all.
According to you, only IK can pay journalists and anchors but when we accuse PMLN of paying journalists, you make fun of our claims. "Show us proof or a video", here you go: Police let the people through, then suddenly there was firing from behind the protesters.
Police step back, let marchers proceed towards PM House | Pakistan | Dunya News
a few minutes after this, there was total chaos.

All the violence you have mentioned has absolutely nothing to do with Imran Khan. If Imran Khan never existed, those things still would have happened. Those incidents were basically fallout from model town. If 14 of your people get murdered and hundreds injured by the police, you'll most probably go crazy rioting too (Ferguson, for example)

So let's just agree with you for a second and say that Imran Khan is the worst terrorist f***er to ever roam the Earth, what's your answer to all this:

The economic cost of corruption – The Express Tribune
http://cprenet.com/uploads/archive/IJBBS_12-1145.pdf (its from 2012 during which PMLN was in Punjab and PPP the federal govt. Punjab is the most developed province in Pakistan)
Sharif Bro's corruption.
Raymond Baker’s book on dirty money highlights Nawaz Sharif’s corruption
Corruption ‘costs’ exchequer Rs12b daily

NAWAZ SHARIF’S CORRUPTION | Dilettante

you'll still support Nawaz Sharif?

As for Hassan Nissar, he makes some good points and his analysis is worth listening to, though its not to be taken as factual news, he throws many accusations and opinions around.
Though I really like the way he presents his opinion, especially the funny analogies etc