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Imagination? r u talkin abt mightly LCA?
After first 50 JFTs Block-II will be inducted,Indiginous avionics are already being tested on it... WS-13 has completed txi runs.... MOU on stealthy features has been signed during UK airshow, more composite has started to appear.... A PAC engineer on PDF has confired abt it,VIXEN AESA has been offered,NRIET AESA is under development..... etc etc
And HQ-19,HQ-18 SAM batteries are being inducted....Enjoy.
We can't match IAF number superiority and the only advantage IAF had over PAF in last decade is BVR-AAM just hit and run don't get involve in close dog fights with the induction of Aim-120Charlie and SD-10 their advantage is gone.
IAF advantages and disadvantages:
Number superiority.
IAF training and maintenance is poor.
IAF is short of 400 pilots and training aircrafts.
IAF aircrafts require more time for maintenance.
50% IAF inventory obsolete(IAF chief said that)
IAF will start receiving MRCA 2013 onwards, their MRCA wont have experience pilots anytime soon.
PAF advantages/disadvantages.
Small budget major disadvantage.
PAF have more number of pilots then aircrafts.
PAF training is world class and maintenance record is very good.
PAF defense capability is significantly increase with JF-17.(JF-17 4BVR+2WVR compared to F7PG with 2 missiles.)
In strike role we have h2, h4, Ra'ad IAF don't have anything which match this capability.
Our aircrafts are maintenance friendly like in one JF-17 video Pilot said its turn around time for next sortie is better then F-16. We can prepare JF-17 for next mission in very short time.
*IAF can create problems for us but they can't win.
Did i talk abt them? u need to get a medical check up.
Mirage ROSE will remain and so will the newly acquired J-7PGs tht were bought during te lost decade and hence have new airframes etc.
And yes ROSE upgrades have BVR go search about it.
U will have the first sqn by 2012 at the latest while JFT block II will be in service by late 2011 or early 2012.
Any source for the 250 number or just imagination of urs?
First make LCA operational then talk abt mk-2.
Does india provide money for PAF? u were cryin the same about F-16s in the past.... also the final cost will be less despite its problem.
Also induction is still late and till ten im sure our economy will recover.....China has massive infra to easily produce a massive number of jets and as history show it still will be available to PAF despite problems .... u dont have to worry about it.
By tht time it will become operational and russian will surely fulfill their own need then indias.... so u can imagine when u will get ur hands into tht.
Yeah right and how many years has LCA taken? remember AMCA still is not even selected for development.
you better see your old post then you will know who need a medical check up.
secondly the rose upgrade .. even the Mirages of the France do not have the capabilities to carry BVR they carry AIM-9 which is not a BVR
and J-7 are not new and
I told u the new F-7PGs will remain till 2020.The Pakistan Air Force is to replace its entire fleet of F-7 with the JF-17 light-weight fighter, all F-7P are planned to be retired and replaced with JF-17 by 2015.
and JF-17 block 2... till now PAF has not even selected which radar to use or the Engine and there is no news of block 2 completion before 2015 if you have any source show it ...................
LCA testing is completed and there was never a prob with it and it has performed excellently and by next year ready to get clearences
(first try to design a jet on your own then you will find it how difficult it is to make one even the even J10 was started in 1980's and was inducted in 2005 ...)
the F-16 money was paid from the money you got in Aid from US .....
how much fast they may be it will take a min of 5 years to build enough for PLAAF..
like J-10 was inducted in 2005 and PAF will get in 2015 same will be for J-xx ie after 2025
In the case of FGFA we have no prob because it will be manufactured by HAL and not Sukoi that is why HAL was told to complete the order of SU-30MKI by 2015 to make the production suitable for FGFA and the entire planes will be manufactured in India
The development of AMCA has started and the core technologies are being sorted out and it will fly by 2020...
Sure and see the highlighted part which highlight so u can see.... and deciede who need a check up.
France dont use Mirage Vs,III with a ROSE upgrade? also there are tread u need to consult before reaching conclusions...Its radar,avionics,deep strike element etc, etc and was rebuilt.
F-7PGs were bought during sanction era 1998-- onwards... most of em...
I told u the new F-7PGs will remain till 2020.
Keep tinking tht.... first ur delusion was it has no radar,second it cant fire a BVR and now this.... engine will be WS-13,AESA will be NRIET or frm europe.
How many years has LCA taken and will take?
God gave u a brain,hands and internet to google abt it... F-16s are paid by GOP frm defence budget.
It will take te sametime it will take russia to equip itself first.
Pakistan ordered J-10B which is still in development.... again use ur brain.
U wont be having it till 2020 at the latest.
First the 250 LCA source?and now 2020 etc sources?
In the late 90s and until 2008 PAF faced technical advantage by IAF such as BVR AAM and technical and numerical threat.
In simple words PAF main workforce F-7/Mirage had no BVR AAM meaning they were prone to BVR threats but at least today PAF is filling this gap by acquiring JF-17s.
Discuss, was 1990-2008 decade more challenging for PAF or the next decade?
IF you still believe that Mirages can fire BVR show me a source or just dream about it....
Next i never said about JF-17 having no radar or any thing i told that JF-17 block 2 is no where near because that radar is not yet finalised and even the WS-13 is not ready
...(Even the J10B is not ready and will ready to induct by 2012
and you are dreaming of JF-17 will be ready by 2011..which is still not had its first flight JF-17 block 2)
the design of LCA was stared in 1990 and Mark-1 will be ready by 2011 ie 21 years (j10 took 18 years)
and take for J10B which is taking 7-8 years more...
....Use your brain too PLAAF is inducting the J10B some where between 2012-2015 and you are expecting you get it by 2014 ..the FC-20 first batch will be J10a and remaining will be J10B
No we wil have it before 2020 because FGFA will be manufactured in India so Russia and India can simultaneously produce them so we need not wait for Russia ...