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Happy Birthday - Zia's Legacy

And what Zia did 9 years of worst dictatorship

Thank bhutto who brought Pak image in world with respect and dignity

Zia was the first to bring MQM in Pakistan and than he started the famous kashkol idea of asking money to USA for its dirty work

East Pak not bhutto mistake every one played part of it

If bhutto was dictator I accept his dictatorship over Zia ask anyone who lived in Zia era otherwise shut up nonsense
oh please, Bhutto was a dictator himself, he couldn't stand anything except one party rule, just to get into part he got rid of East Pakistan, Gen Yahya just fell into his trap, Bhutto didnt come back to Pakistan till he was sure East Pakistan was gone for good, he then went ahead and recognized it just to be sure, Zia wasn't the best, but he got rid of the Bhutto curse before he could destroy more of Pakistan.
 
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Even if people may not openly acknowledge, Zia has great respect and following among the people.
 
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Zia’s sole aim to was to prolong his rule. If this required changing a heretofore progressive liberal Pakistan society into an intolerant blood thirsty mob, so be it. It is the direct result of his legacy that today liberalism is its dearth throws in Pakistan. In order to win votes one has to support extremist elements of the society which explains why the Sharif brothers must keep Rana Sana Ullah as one of their ministers and why oxford educated Taliban Khan gave Rs 300-million grant to the nursery of extremism in the KPK. The following article describes the situation aptly.




Why liberals are losing

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LIBERALS in Pakistan have been an endangered species for quite a while. How many dodos remain? Nobody quite knows, but a day after the assassination of Governor Salmaan Taseer in 2011, the press secretary of the Jamaat-i-Islami, Farid Paracha, snarled at me during a TV programme that today the only people in Pakistan unhappy (at the murder) are the 300 liberals like you who still remain in this country.

Only 300? Mr Paracha vastly exaggerated; there are tens of thousands others. Still, he’s right that liberals in Pakistan are becoming fewer — as elsewhere. Brexit in Europe, and the rise of India’s BJP, shows illiberalism is aggressively marching. A foul-mouthed Muslim-hating casino owner is running for president of the United States and poking holes into liberalism just as Jean-Marie Le Pen, Recep Erdogan, Geert Wilders, and other political entrepreneurs have done for much longer in Europe. The open societies of the West are in free fall.

For many at home this is joyous news. Imran Khan has already declared liberals ‘scum’, and his allies in the Jamaat-i-Islami are suggesting that liberals, like Ahmadis, be registered as a separate minority. Recently a popular TV anchor suggested that students should record on their smartphones those of their teachers who teach liberal ideas in class and then post their videos on the internet. Presumably, that teacher’s fate would then be decided by the type of people who keep Bangladesh clean.

Inspired by visions of past greatness, several political-religious movements are out to recreate the Madina state.
Hugely popular among our TV anchors, and in the Urdu press today, is the abusive term ‘liberal fascist’. Intrigued, over the years, I have asked students and various others to name such people. Mr Jinnah being long dead, none may dare accuse him. But I recall one student saying Gen Musharraf was a liberal fascist for having allowed a mixed marathon in Islamabad. Girls and boys running together, he said, is against our values and hence fascism. Several others said that liberal fascists want to ban religion, hang mullahs, and close down mosques and madressahs. However they couldn’t recall a single person who might have said that.

But who are liberals anyway? The confusion begs a definition.

Broadly speaking, liberals are a diffuse bunch wanting a freer world for themselves and others, both personally and politically. Some are faithfully religious, others indifferent, still others atheistic. Some drink, others don’t. Liberals value choice and freedom of expression saying you have the right to dress and wear the clothes as you wish. Covering a woman’s face or head should be optional. She can have a job if she wants, or stay at home if she wants.

Extended into the public sphere, liberalism is about the intrinsic equality of men and women from all races and religions, religious tolerance, and the protection of political and civil liberties. Liberalism is admittedly a Western project dating to the Age of Enlightenment. Nevertheless its many premises — such as the rejection of hereditary privilege and absolute monarchy — have won universal acceptance.

But that’s it. Unlike Islamists, liberals are not terribly brave. With no ideology to defend and no daawah mission, they could be inclined either towards socialism or laissez-faire capitalism. Ditto on matters of social inequality and poverty: should education and health, water and sewage, be the responsibility of the state? There are liberals who say agriculture, industry, and business should be taxed but other liberals believe in zero taxes and no state controls.

Now for the key question: why is liberalism suddenly imperiled everywhere? The reasons appear different in the Muslim world and in the West. But at the core lies largely one thing — a rate of change too large to absorb.

Forty years earlier, Alvin Toffler, in his famed book Future Shock, had warned of unpredictable consequences of rapid, technological change and its unsettling psychological effects. Western society is undergoing a revolutionary structural change from an industrial society to a post-industrial society. Basically the world has suddenly shrunk and is spinning too fast. The dizzying acceleration, he said, leaves people disconnected and suffering from “shattering stress and disorientation” — future shocked.

Future shock makes things difficult enough but the recent mass migration has tipped, or almost tipped, the balance. Once homogeneous societies of the West are being forced to instantly incorporate and assimilate diverse peoples. Tolerance, multiculturalism, and liberalism are under stress. Western populist leaders reject open borders, instead promising to defend ‘traditional’ values and ‘make the country great again’. Hence, Brexit and Trump.

Illiberalism is far stronger in Muslim countries. In Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya and now Bangladesh, people care less about ‘freedom’ — as defined by liberals — and even more about national identities, historic enmities, sectarianism, tribal bonds, territorial symbols, and traditional cultural values. Far from dying out, such atavistic attachments are becoming stronger.

Again, this comes from excessively rapid change. For millennia, Muslim societies had been in more or less steady equilibrium but the systemic transformation made possible by technology and communication has destroyed the autonomy of life in villages and towns, and forced diverse peoples and individuals to live in close urban proximity where they now compete with each other. The Green Revolution allows far larger populations to be sustained than once imaginable.

In today’s complex and uncertain world Muslims, more than others, try to conjure up some perfect golden past. Many want to turn the clock back by 1400 years. Inspired by visions of past greatness, a multitude of Muslim political-religious movements are out to recreate the Medina state. Daesh, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, and Ikhwan-ul-Muslimeen are some notable entrepreneurs in this business. With terror as their strategy, these holy warriors have spilled far more Muslim blood than that of others.

Liberals everywhere are fighting an uphill battle — and winning only rarely. It is so much easier to be backward looking, narrow, prejudiced, parochial, tribal, sectarian, and nationalist rather than be accommodative, global, and universal. It is even more difficult in Pakistan. While erasing the last 300 liberals may be a noble goal in the eyes of some, it is unlikely to solve a truly large and vexatious problem.

The writer teaches physics in Lahore and Islamabad.

Published in Dawn, July 9th, 2016

http://www.dawn.com/news/1269594/why-liberals-are-losing
 
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oh please, Bhutto was a dictator himself, he couldn't stand anything except one party rule, just to get into part he got rid of East Pakistan, Gen Yahya just fell into his trap, Bhutto didnt come back to Pakistan till he was sure East Pakistan was gone for good, he then went ahead and recognized it just to be sure, Zia wasn't the best, but he got rid of the Bhutto curse before he could destroy more of Pakistan.
Sorry if it is the case than why you do nothing against corrupt nawaz. Who also stay out alot

And bhutto gave you China like friend Zia gave you cancer of terrorism

Zia was a traitor brought million muhajirs who are making havoc in Karachi

Bhutto did mistakes but they were not Dilberete Bangladesh lost by Zia like generals stupid actions in West Pakistan

Zia is traitor
 
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Sorry if it is the case than why you do nothing against corrupt nawaz. Who also stay out alot

And bhutto gave you China like friend Zia gave you cancer of terrorism

Zia was a traitor brought million muhajirs who are making havoc in Karachi

Bhutto did mistakes but they were not Dilberete Bangladesh lost by Zia like generals stupid actions in West Pakistan

Zia is traitor
NS is irrelevant
China was given to us by Ayub Khan, Bhutto just got all the credit.
Bhutto broke up East Pakistan by his conspiracies single handedly, just so he could become the PM of a truncated Pakistan, he would have broken Pakistan more just to become PM again, if it wasn't for Zia.
Bhutto got what was coming for him.
 
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I may never forget General Zia made Pakistan Studies compulsory...
 
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NS is irrelevant
China was given to us by Ayub Khan, Bhutto just got all the credit.
Bhutto broke up East Pakistan by his conspiracies single handedly, just so he could become the PM of a truncated Pakistan, he would have broken Pakistan more just to become PM again, if it wasn't for Zia.
Bhutto got what was coming for him.
Sorry for replying to you when you are in such denial mode

Ask China who improved relations of strategic type with u than u will get your answer

You are type of Zia and achakzai who are anti Pakistani from inside but yet say I'm biggest pro Pakistani

Top of it you again deny who made Pak nuke state ask dr Abdul qadeer than talk

At least be a gentleman

Accept good things in a man who is your opponent otherwise you are like aman who has ego problem with someone
 
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Sorry for replying to you when you are in such denial mode

Ask China who improved relations of strategic type with u than u will get your answer

You are type of Zia and achakzai who are anti Pakistani from inside but yet say I'm biggest pro Pakistani

Top of it you again deny who made Pak nuke state ask dr Abdul qadeer than talk

At least be a gentleman

Accept good things in a man who is your opponent otherwise you are like aman who has ego problem with someone
im sorry
but i dont like Zia
he was all filled with flaws
but he hung the person who broke Pakistan
and im sorry again, but after breaking up a country, whatever a person does will have no value.
your personal attacks are showing your weakness
and i think you are not getting the magnitude of what it means to have half of your country lost
and the person who is responsible for it, can NEVER EVER be forgiven
even if he is made of solid gold
 
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Today is July 5th, 2016 and date of birth of a political ideology of Zia through Nawaz Sharif.

It was July 5th, some 39 years ago when an Army General was on US Duty and had asked the then right wing parties to clear the road for Re-Islamization of an already 99% Muslim populated country.

Once road was cleared, Zia treaded and sowed three saplings which Pakistan is still enjoying in its true and proper glory:


  1. MQM

  2. Religious Fundamentalism

  3. PMLJ- then IJI and now PMLN
To all supporters of above – Happy Birthday!

The root cause of all problems Pakistan is facing today.
 
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I'm not a jiyala but what about the gifts that Zia gave to Pakistan?
bhai zia didnt give us anything its what we demand and still now.. MQM came cuz we did hate some class then they start hating us.. we wanted to please world power so we took part in war and it was kinda cursed revenge with USSR there are more guns and people gets murderd in india but hey we know the art of cursing our own players like GEO news already knew ajmal kasab's village after bombay attack. He alhumdulillah died long ago all those years what new politicians did..imagin 180 million cant get ride of Zia's legacy how powerful thinking he was or maybe we get weak and lose our farsight..
Mard e mujahid Mard e haq
zial ul Haq zial ul Haq
 
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bhai zia didnt give us anything its what we demand and still now.. MQM came cuz we did hate some class then they start hating us.. we wanted to please world power so we took part in war and it was kinda cursed revenge with USSR there are more guns and people gets murderd in india but hey we know the art of cursing our own players like GEO news already knew ajmal kasab's village after bombay attack. He alhumdulillah died long ago all those years what new politicians did..imagin 180 million cant get ride of Zia's legacy how powerful thinking he was or maybe we get weak and lose our farsight..
Mard e mujahid Mard e haq
zial ul Haq zial ul Haq

This is the reality. Its been 30 years since Zia left. If society hated Zia's policy, much would have changed.
 
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What about Bhutto legacy of killing political opponents and destroying institutions with policy of Nationalization.
BECO of Lahore was an Engineering Pride of Pakistan,always visited by Heads Of Countries,was "nationalised"by Bhutto the dapper vadera of Sindh.This engineering company could have become a"Krupp"of Pakistan the way they were progressing and exporting the machine tools to European countries.It could have brought us in line with industrialised countries........alas, but this pink revolutionary fraudster did more and long lasting damage than Zia could.He rather than handing over the power to Awami League ,the winner of election,adopted the policy of "udher tum.....idher hum ,and partitioned the country,introduced western capitalist/feudalist liberalism disguised as" Islamic socialism",murdered,
Imprisoned and banished hundereds of citizens.Destroyed civil cervice and made futile attempts to establish one party fascist rule and and and..........

ZIA THE MULLAH AND BHUTTO THE LIBERALLA ........They both harmed our DIVINE LAND.
 
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