Hamas SLAMMED in Arab media for their attacks on Israel

[Contrarian]

I already mentioned there was no proof Hamas did it...though no one should doubt but Israel straight away blamed Hamas even before the bodies were found...they had started rounding 330 Palestinians....

The rockets did no harm...could have been countered instead of rounding up the Palestinians by closing the Gaza borders + bombing the dockyard (basically rounding them like sheep for sacrifice)

Whether they did harm or not is irrelevant.
That Hamas started firing on Israel first is the point.
You can not seem to get over the fact that Hamas was unable to kill anyone. You deliberately try to ignore the fact that Hamas is trying to kill common Israeli's.

I am saying Israel has no regard for Palestinian life and a that is a fact no matter how you see it!
hamas fires into isolated areas very rarely into populated areas...otherwise there would have been at least 1 causality! And if by that sense you term Hamas as a terrorist then by the same sense (Israel fires into DENSELY POPULATED strip) Israel is a terrorist state!

Every trajectory mapping done by Israeli's seems to indicate otherwise. Hamas is trying to kill common Israeli's. They try their best and target populated areas of Israel.

And if Hamas uses such tactics, why should force not be met with force.
Per you it is okay for Hamas to fire into Israeli civilians, but haram for Israeli's to do the same.
Force must be countered using force

I will discuss Pakistan in a different thread right now the thread at hand you cant seem to handle and keep derailing just like every other person who is supporting Israel!

I think you were incapable of understanding the example I gave. The example was to prove a point that Pakistan Army considers the life of a Pakistani more important than the life of an Afghan.
The same way Indians consider the life of an Indian worth more than a Pakistani's.
The same way Israeli's consider the life of an Israeli worth more than a Palestinians.

If you still can not get basic facts right, then you are trying to derail this discussion.

How the bloody hell can you target Hamas by firing every 5 mins (yea how far can you run in 5mins?)

How the bloody hell is Hamas target in a densely populated area? If you know they are in that masjid or hospital then go on foot you cowards! Go on foot! But of course you dont care about Palestinians hence rather sit in your base and kill anyone you please and tell the world it was terrorist!

Why should Israeli's go on foot and risk their lives. Why should they not bomb the areas?
Does Hamas care when they fire to Israeli cities? No.
Do the Palestinians stop Hamas from firing into Israeli cities? No
Do the Palestinians atleast ask Hamas to stop firing from Palestinian populated areas? No

So why should Israel risk its soldiers lives for those who are comfortable in killing regular Israeli men, women and children.

 

[Osnaz]

This is a false narrative and propaganda that is always repeated.
Israel left Gaza (but only ground precense), but they still control every aspect of life in the Gaza strip.
Water, electricity, airspace etc.

There is a barbaric embargo on Gaza, imposed by Israel, so please mention that next time you say "Israel left Gaza"...

Again, you're ignoring bits you wish to ignore.

Israel left and borders were open. On CONDITION of ceasing terrorism, Israel said that they would open the airport and other measures.

You cannot expect Israel to leave in 2005 and overnight allow everything unrestricted for palestinains to bring in Migs and tanks.

Of course if the palestinians stopped their terrorism, Gaza would be flourishing just now.

There was no blockade between 2005-2007 yet rockets were coming daily.

Your country is one of the biggest instigators of trouble between Israel and Gaza.

 

[Dubious]

Whether they did harm or not is irrelevant.
That Hamas started firing on Israel first is the point.
You can not seem to get over the fact that Hamas was unable to kill anyone.

No I got it...However, Israel is able to kill...what does it make them? Just answer this bit

You deliberately try to ignore the fact that Hamas is trying to kill common Israeli's.

Vs Israel is killing common Palestinians?

 

[notsuperstitious]

Why can't Israel turn off the iron dome and early warning systems and just let some civilians die so that suddenly their efforts to take out Hamas rocket batteries will be justified in the eyes of some logically challenged jihadis!!!!!

 

[Dubious]

Again, you're ignoring bits you wish to ignore.

Israel left and borders were open. On CONDITION of ceasing terrorism, Israel said that they would open the airport and other measures.

You cannot expect Israel to leave in 2005 and overnight allow everything unrestricted for palestinains to bring in Migs and tanks.

Of course if the palestinians stopped their terrorism, Gaza would be flourishing just now.

There was no blockade between 2005-2007 yet rockets were coming daily.

Your country is one of the biggest instigators of trouble between Israel and Gaza.

Either you have pathetic command of the English language or you are just a deliberate troll:

For 2005 my questions were: How is it called out of Gaza when Israel controlled everything from trade to water?

Human Rights Watch, an international human rights advocacy organization, published in Jan. 2005 the following description of the Gaza Withdrawal in its "World Report 2005":

"The Israeli Cabinet adopted Prime Minister Sharon's Gaza 'disengagement' plan on June 6, 2004, and the full Knesset gave its approval on October 26.

The plan calls for the withdrawal of Jewish settlers and the redeployment of Israeli troops to posts on the Israeli side of the border with Gaza, while Israel will retain control of Gaza's borders, coastline, and airspace. Israel is reserving the right to launch incursions into Gaza, and will continue to control Gaza's economy and trade, telecommunications, water, electricity, and sewage networks.

The plan explicitly envisions the demolition of hundreds more homes along the Gaza-Egypt border in order to expand the buffer zone there.

The plan states that the disengagement 'will serve to dispel the claims regarding Israel's responsibility for the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.'

In fact, under international humanitarian law, the steps envisioned will not end Israel's occupation of the territory, and Israel will retain responsibility for the welfare of Gaza's civilian population."


For 2014: Israel closed borders + bombarded the dockyard and ships to prevent people from dying...literally rounding them like sheep!

Gaza would be flourishing if Israel stop its mass murder and give control of their lives to Palestinians and not be control freaks as per the 2005

Why can't Israel turn off the iron dome and early warning systems and just let some civilians die so that suddenly their efforts to take out Hamas rocket batteries will be justified in the eyes of some logically challenged jihadis!!!!!

Or why cant the Israelis grow a pair and hunt them terrorists down on foot?

 

[Imran Khan]

hamas is sick they are responsible of all this happen to people . they have no deterrence still they fire pipes on israel .

 

[500]

Everyone in Arab world understands now that Muslim Brotherhood (where Hamas belongs) are terrorist troublemakers. They nearly destroyed Algeria and Egypt, now they are destroying Gaza.

 

[Osnaz]

Why can't Israel turn off the iron dome and early warning systems and just let some civilians die so that suddenly their efforts to take out Hamas rocket batteries will be justified in the eyes of some logically challenged jihadis!!!!!

It's amazing. Even leftists in Europe seem annoyed that Israelis are protected.

They seem annoyed that Israelis aren't dying and think this means Israelis aren't suffering.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Or why cant the Israelis grow a pair and hunt them terrorists down on foot?

Flimsy as always. As long as human shields are present in a warzone, casualties will happen. Of course in a ground invasion some Jews will also die, that seems to make everything alright for you.

 

[Osnaz]

Flimsy as always. As long as human shields are present in a warzone, casualties will happen. Of course in a ground invasion some Jews will also die, that seems to make everything alright for you.

Casualties for palestinians will be worse with ground invasion than air strikes.

Especially if Hamas makes them stay like them seem to be doing.

 

[boomslang]

If I were King of Israel, which I SHOULD be, I wouldn't send Gaza one drop of water or one volt of electricity. Where else in the world does that happen ?

 

[Contrarian]

No I got it...However, Israel is able to kill...what does it make them? Just answer this bit
Vs Israel is killing common Palestinians?

The same difference between a criminal trying to kill a cop and cop killing in self-defense.

Israel only kills when the Palestinians attack them. Hamas and Palestinians try to keep killing the Israelis.

THAT is the crucial difference. What part of this do you find hard to get.

Why can't Israel turn off the iron dome and early warning systems and just let some civilians die so that suddenly their efforts to take out Hamas rocket batteries will be justified in the eyes of some logically challenged jihadis!!!!!

Well said.

Or why cant the Israelis grow a pair and hunt them terrorists down on foot?

Because THAT would risk Israeli people.
Why should they risk their own people for Palestinians when Palestinians allow Hamas to fire on Israeli people from their areas.

 

[Osnaz]

If I were King of Israel, which I SHOULD be, I wouldn't send Gaza one drop of water or one volt of electricity. Where else in the world does that happen ?

It's a bit crazy, but there's no option.

 

[Contrarian]

It's amazing. Even leftists in Europe seem annoyed that Israelis are protected.

They seem annoyed that Israelis aren't dying and think this means Israelis aren't suffering.

Please dont forget Indian leftists.
Only Indian leftists and Indian muslims seem to be blaming the Israel for not dying.

 

[boomslang]

It's a bit crazy, but there's no option.

F*ck 'em. Let Iran tanker water in with the rockets they send. Or do you mean me being King of Israel ?