HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[Abingdonboy]

Fittign that this should happen in Bangaluru....

 

[sathya]

Fittign that this should happen in Bangaluru....

Trainer model of Navy ?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Trainer model of Navy ?

More or less like the MK 2

 

[kalibr]

 

[rockstarIN]

Lca may perform at Baharain air show in early 2016 as per reports . And it will be an 8 g 24 aoa , ,not like aero india

 

[SR-91]

Lca may perform at Baharain air show in early 2016 as per reports . And it will be an 8 g 24 aoa , ,not like aero india

I'm dying to see maneuverability of LCA. I would love to see LCA pull 8 G's.

 

[kaykay]

Lca may perform at Baharain air show in early 2016 as per reports . And it will be an 8 g 24 aoa , ,not like aero india

Its 26° AoA now.....

 

[Abba_Dabba_Jabba]

I bet PAF pilots would have started buying tickets to get a glimpse of LCA..

Hope everything goes well and it performs well..

 

[knight11]

@PARIKRAMA @nForce @Abingdonboy @kaykay @sathya

I am bit confused with the future of MK-2.

So did MK2 development, have been stoped

"We are now hopeful of an order for 100 Mark 1-As before the end of the current financial year," DRDO chief Dr S Christopher told MAILTODAY. The meeting of the governing council headed by Dr Christopher follows the September 23 signing of new aircraft specifications between the four key stakeholders in the three-decade old LCA project-the IAF, DRDO, MoD and HAL. The agreement has launched the struggling LCA Tejas project on a new trajectory. Designs of the Mark-1A will be complete by 2017 and the modified aircraft could enter production beginning 2019.
HAL is currently supplying the IAF with 20 variants of the basic LCA Tejas. The DRDO chief says the Mark 1-A Tejas will address other shortcomings indicated by the IAF like the lack of an Active Electronically Scanned Array or AESA radar and Electronic Support Measures (ESM) which will be carried on a pod instead of within the fuselage. The modified Mark 1-A was proposed by HAL this year as a stop gap because the Mark 2 with uprated GE-414 engines and a lengthened fuselage, will not be ready for induction before 2024.

"Re-positioning of major (aircraft) aggregates for the ease of maintenance has nullified the requirement to stretch the fuselage that would have increased aerodynamic drag to such levels as to require the more powerful F-414 engine. This negates the requirement to have LCA Mk2 for the IAF," says Air Vice Marshal Manmohan Bahadur (retired) of the Centre for Air Power Studies. Significantly, HAL has assured the IAF that it will double production capacity in its Bengaluru facility to roll out 16 aircraft each year.
The Mark 1-A is meant to arrest the alarming shortfall in the IAF's fighter squadron fleet from a sanctioned strength of 39.5 squadrons to the present 35 squadrons. These squadrons are projected to further dip by 2022 when over 200 MiG-21 and MiG-27s are phased out. The ADA is now designing the LCA's Mark 2 variant only for the Indian Navy and the design will be ready by 2022. The agency also hopes to complete designs of a generation 4.5 Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft by 2022.

Govt to order 100 Tejas aircrafts for IAF- Business News

Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha in this recently held Press Conference indirectly confirmed that Airforce is no longer interested in MK-II Program and might walk away from the project and instead support India's 5th Generation AMCA fighter aircraft program.

For long Defence Analyst had linked MK-II Program requirements to Indian Navy which wanted a Single-engined equipped Tejas to have higher thrust class of jet engine so that it could allow aircraft to carry a decent payload from an aircraft carrier at sea which IAF saw has an opportunity to demand better performance aircraft then in its current configuration.

Speaking to ADA engineer in Aero India earlier this year it was confirmed that MK-2 contrary to popular beliefs will not address larger operational radius but will only improve on better performance and better indigenisation and Better Cockpit layout and Avionics.

The redesigned airframe of single engined Tejas MK-2 will be developed on parallel to AMCA which will see mating of 110kN engine with the first Prototype by the end of 2019 as planned by DRDO and ADA. HAL was hell bent and strongly opposed development of the MK-2 project and Questioned need raised by IAF since many of the key demands asked by airforce could be made available in MK-1 airframe itself which will allow HAL to get more orders and streamline production of Tejas MK-1.

Sources close to idrw.org have informed that Airforce has not walked out of MK-2 project and it is pretty much onboard it, but will be reviewing MK-1A project where HAL has promised to remove technical deficiencies of MK-1 and also agreed to introduce 4 key requirements like new Aesa Radar, IFR, EW Suite and New BVR missiles while reducing its over engineered components while maintaining safety aspect which will lead to reduction of overhaul weight of the aircraft and also improve its maintainability.

Airforce will soon take a Call on the MK-2 program in a year or two after much deliberation with all Concerned parties and after review of MK-1A said same source and Developers too will decide which Variant of MK-2 (Naval or Airforce ) will be built first depending on user interest. Indian Navy is only one who has committed requirements of 56 aircrafts from MK-2 Project and IAF had earlier committed 86 aircrafts which might be reviewed after the performance of MK-1A aircraft is gauged by air force after its first flight in 2017.

Recent plans of Airforce to place larger orders for MK-1/MK-1A will allow breathing space for MK-2 developers which will allow them to explore possibilities of incorporating technologies from ongoing development research work on 5th generation fighter jet programs like AMCA and FGFA leading to better performance Tejas aircrafts which will keep it technological relevant platform post 2030 before AMCA Production takes over

http://idrw.org/questions-on-status-quo ... more-76188

 

[Shankranthi]

@PARIKRAMA @nForce @Abingdonboy @kaykay @sathya

I am bit confused with the future of MK-2.

So did MK2 development, have been stoped

Stop taking the IAF chief's world so seriously. They have lost their credibility LONG back.

 

[sharma1111]

Stop taking the IAF chief's world so seriously. They have lost their credibility LONG back.

MK-2 for Naval version is being supported by Indian navy . They will buy 100 if HAL can produce them. who cares if IAF buys them or not.

Guys the problem is with HAL. Last 12 month and they have not managed to produce 1 air craft.

 

[knight11]

 

[saddam bhatti]

congrats,,,,,,,ab yeh thread bhi 500 page chaleg,,,usme koi shaq nahi,
par tab tak lca induct hoga ya nahi,,,wo sure nahi ha

Tejas agle 5 sal be nai operational ho ga

 

[kaykay]

Tejas agle 5 sal be nai operational ho ga

Koi baat nahi...6th saal me ho jayega. Problem?

@PARIKRAMA @nForce @Abingdonboy @kaykay @sathya

I am bit confused with the future of MK-2.

So did MK2 development, have been stoped

Could be. Though it will depend on MK-1A. mk-2 will only offer greater combat radius and a bit more load than mk-1A but avionics and other stuffs will be more or less same.

 

[rockstarIN]

@PARIKRAMA @nForce @Abingdonboy @kaykay @sathya

I am bit confused with the future of MK-2.

So did MK2 development, have been stoped

So far I understand(my understanding only though),

-IAF wants replacement (Mig-21,27) which should be more of a 'higher end' LCA--not like MIg-21 or LCA Mk-1. As per IAF understanding our lower end fighter will have to face off with J-10B over our as well as Chinese air space. Means more endurance.

But Mk-2 will come only after 2024-26, we need jets to fill-hence they might go for MK-1 with AESA as a stop gap till they get Mk-2 as well as squadron number addition(approved strength of 42). But Navy will surely go for 100+ Mk2.