HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[SpArK]

 

[nik22]

^^ This guy at MOD has got skills.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Stunning clicks !!! 2nd pic is one of a kind . Never seen it before ... very clear and classy

 

[Water Car Engineer]

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Twin engine Stealth Concept of LCA Tejas which comes with Internal Weapons bay . Looks like Hybrid between Mig-25 Air-frame and LCA Tejas Wings . Looks like its optimized for Mach 3 flight

 

[Manindra]

https://twitter.com/x/status/579708335965917184

In Grippen & F-18 Engine can be changed in 15 minutes, we need more improvement in this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/579707810377658369

 

[Agent_47]

 

[ni8mare]

In Grippen & F-18 Engine can be changed in 15 minutes, we need more improvement in this.

any source for this ?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

In Grippen & F-18 Engine can be changed in 15 minutes, we need more improvement in this.

Source on this pls

BTW there are so many variables involving not only just engine change but every kind of maintenance man hours (MMH) that it'll be hard to narrow it down to solid numbers to publish accurately.

Like Few things to consider such as
Aircraft you have (brand new, been around the block, reworked lately?)
Maintainers you have (newbies, oldies, trained?)
Ops you might be up to (working up, standing down. Training, front line?)
Polices in place where you are, when you are there.

All of these things will make those numbers go up or down. The single most important factor among this is the day in and day out maintenance schedule and training involved in simulated combat environment. The harder the training and more the experienced maintainers the greater the efficiency and quicker is the turn around.

LCA for god sake atm does not even have a proper manual being handed over. Let IAF buddies play with at least a squadron and let them go through every nook and corner of the bird and maintenance schedules. Let the then train themselves day in and day out and then quote a veteran maintainer speaking numbers of MMH. Even then he will quote different set of low and high as per different conditions including variables like climate which may play indeed decisive factor for eg. MMH data at Leh will be different from say Jamnagar. We can only come to a mean or median of estimates at best.

Of course most of the folks like Gripen and F18/F16 or others who have an ulterior motive and a agenda may fudge the numbers to support their claims of MMH. Its simply to make different customers/end users/airforces buy more of these birds, apply MLU's or scrap existing fleet birds and lure them to select their marketed product, etc

Ultimately its a veteran maintainer whose word holds the highest value. If he says that MMH can be improved with more simplistic configuration then IAF should convey that feedback to HAL and improve the bird in future production. If the maintainer is fine in different set of conditions then the median of MMH for different specs like oil change engine change refueling ordnance reload etc etc would be known. We can then may be compare birds within India for better understanding. But no point comparing MMH of different countries as conditions and schedule are very different.. Even a veteran maintainer would point that for sure..

 

[jarves]

4 hours for engine change in Tejas?.I heard somewhere that it takes 3 days .

Gripen in comparison takes only half an hour.

 

[Manindra]

Source on this pls

BTW there are so many variables involving not only just engine change but every kind of maintenance man hours (MMH) that it'll be hard to narrow it down to solid numbers to publish accurately.

Like Few things to consider such as
Aircraft you have (brand new, been around the block, reworked lately?)
Maintainers you have (newbies, oldies, trained?)
Ops you might be up to (working up, standing down. Training, front line?)
Polices in place where you are, when you are there.

All of these things will make those numbers go up or down. The single most important factor among this is the day in and day out maintenance schedule and training involved in simulated combat environment. The harder the training and more the experienced maintainers the greater the efficiency and quicker is the turn around.

LCA for god sake atm does not even have a proper manual being handed over. Let IAF buddies play with at least a squadron and let them go through every nook and corner of the bird and maintenance schedules. Let the then train themselves day in and day out and then quote a veteran maintainer speaking numbers of MMH. Even then he will quote different set of low and high as per different conditions including variables like climate which may play indeed decisive factor for eg. MMH data at Leh will be different from say Jamnagar. We can only come to a mean or median of estimates at best.

Of course most of the folks like Gripen and F18/F16 or others who have an ulterior motive and a agenda may fudge the numbers to support their claims of MMH. Its simply to make different customers/end users/airforces buy more of these birds, apply MLU's or scrap existing fleet birds and lure them to select their marketed product, etc

Ultimately its a veteran maintainer whose word holds the highest value. If he says that MMH can be improved with more simplistic configuration then IAF should convey that feedback to HAL and improve the bird in future production. If the maintainer is fine in different set of conditions then the median of MMH for different specs like oil change engine change refueling ordnance reload etc etc would be known. We can then may be compare birds within India for better understanding. But no point comparing MMH of different countries as conditions and schedule are very different.. Even a veteran maintainer would point that for sure..

Currently I am unable to provide source but @sancho & @MilSpec can clarify on this.

4 hours for engine change in Tejas?.I heard somewhere that it takes 3 days .

Gripen in comparison takes only half an hour.

Its 2 hours not 4 hours.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

 

[rockstarIN]

Whats the status of FOC now?

Only BVR, refuel on air is left (major)?

 

[migflug]

IAF all set to raise first squadron of indigenous fighter Tejas
Published March 23, 2015 | By admin
SOURCE : UNI

With its fighter squadron strength dwindling and finalisation of medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) still eluding, the Indian Air Force has sped up its plan to raise the first squadron of indigenously developed light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas. Sources in the Defence Ministry told UNI that the IAF was planning to raise the first squadron of the aircraft by next year after getting the delivery of at least six Tejas in the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) configuration. Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has already delivered the first IOC-standard aircraft to IAF in January this year.

Rest of the five Tejas of same configuration are likely to be handed over to it by this financial year end, the sources said. The first squadron of Tejas will be rechristened as Squadron 45 and it would be called ‘Flying Daggers’. Keeping the logistical issues in mind, the squadron will be based in Bangalore so that the HAL may be called into service at any given point to sort out the teething problems if any, an IAF official said, adding that subsequently, the squadron would be shifted to Sulur base of the IAF.

First squadron of LCA was likely to be declared fully operational in 2022 when all of its 18 aircraft would be upgraded to final operational clearance (FOC) configuration, the sources said. In the meantime, the IAF would start raising the second squadron of Tejas, comprising 18 aircraft of FOC-standard.

The second Tejas squadron of 20 FOC-standard is likely to become fully operational by 2020. It was officially communicated to one of the parliamentary panel recently that the IAF’s fighter squadron strength has come down to 34 against the authorised strength of 42 combat squadrons.

 

[skynet]

Whats the status of FOC now?

Only BVR, refuel on air is left (major)?

Gun firing also