HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[Water Car Engineer]

Yes yes yes let me know when that happens. As always there's always "Going to be" or "Going to happen" I said 4 years earlier this year.

Why don't we we wait a while see what happens.
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I have also read the same thing for K9 thunder, M777, Dhanush, etc. orders. They're in production as well.

Im going on the simple fact all is in place to not have further orders.

 

[Keysersoze]

I have also read the same thing for K9 thunder, M777, Dhanush, etc. orders. They're in production as well.

Im going on the simple fact all is in place to not have further orders.

Well the artillery orders were on hold since the 1980's......lol So standard is apparently 30 years or so.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Well the artillery orders were on hold since the 1980's......lol So standard is apparently 30 years or so.

90s, yes, but recent governments are pushing these programs through. A lot of the purchases going on now are back logged orders due a while ago. Moving quick, production plants, etc. coming up. MK1A is a part of the next wave orders guaranteed to get orders. Too much investment by gov company, industry is in place. Production has to go on.

 

[Novice09]

Firstly you have to cite your source.

Secondly you can't produce it if it hasn't even been ordered yet......

When you have your own jet... you don't need a LOoOOOongg period to... evaluate and negotiate... have you heard about INR 200 crore anti tank missile deal with Russia... Or something like... PURCHASE UNDER EMERGENCY CLAUSE...

FYI... 40 Tejas has already been ordered and as per the article order of 83 more is on the top priority of the govt right now

Well the number of Tejas MK1 ORDERED is 40... 32 built (including 16 prototypes)... Just remember... IF mk1A is not ready (including a favorable price)... further MK1 would be ordered... in FOC configration... AND believe me current government in HEAVILY backing DOMESTIC PRODUCTS...

90s, yes, but recent governments are pushing these programs through. A lot of the purchases going on now are back logged orders due a while ago. Moving quick, production plants, etc. coming up. MK1A is a part of the next wave orders guaranteed to get orders. Too much investment by gov company, industry is in place. Production has to go on.

I think @Keysersoze is living in past... On one hand we Indians are amazed and happy by the way Modi government is breaking and abolishing the INDIAN BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE... FORCEFUL VRS to non performers SARKARI BABUS... and this guy is stuck in 2014... UPA aka SCAMGRESS ERA...

 

[Keysersoze]

I think @Keysersoze is living in past... On one hand we Indians are amazed and happy by the way Modi government is breaking and abolishing the INDIAN BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE... FORCEFUL VRS to non performers SARKARI BABUS... and this guy is stuck in 2014... UPA aka SCAMGRESS ERA...

No No I still live in the present. I laugh daily at the delusion of people like you. That you are suckered in by the cult of personality so so Easily (Shows weakness of character) That you can't see the obvious corruption and game playing. That you think delay after delay is acceptable. People like you keep Pakistan safe.

Anyway 30 years later and still no order for MK1A lol

 

[Novice09]

No No I still live in the present. I laugh daily at the delusion of people like you. That you are suckered in by the cult of personality so so Easily (Shows weakness of character) That you can't see the obvious corruption and game playing. That you think delay after delay is acceptable. People like you keep Pakistan safe.

Anyway 30 years later and still no order for MK1A lol

A FABRICATED LIE MINTING MACHINE...

If you feel that everything is same in India as it was in scamgress era... good for India...

In the meantime... India and Indians will keep progressing under the leadership of Modi G...

I can recall when... production targets were set for Tejas and fools were laughing... 30 years... blah blah blah... and now we have achieved 18 jets per year target... ON TIME...

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Anyway 30 years later and still no order for MK1A lol

30 years ago there was no MK1A, just barely 3. Again, use some logic, too much investment is in place for orders to not go through, plus current government, plus falling sqd requirement.

 

[Keysersoze]

30 years ago there was no MK1A, just barely 3. Again, use some logic, too much investment is in place for orders to not go through, plus current government, plus falling sqd requirement.

Look, I mock because you and your associate are just the latest in a long line of "going to be" types that have appeared on fora like this. The simple fact is that this project would have been cancelled in any other nation. The fact that your press keeps waffling on about how it is Indigenous (probably why they haven't cancelled it yet) despite it being mostly imported. I mock because the excuses are pitiful.

A FABRICATED LIE MINTING MACHINE...

If you feel that everything is same in India as it was in scamgress era... good for India...

In the meantime... India and Indians will keep progressing under the leadership of Modi G...

I can recall when... production targets were set for Tejas and fools were laughing... 30 years... blah blah blah... and now we have achieved 18 jets per year target... ON TIME...

You really are special needs aren't you lol

You haven't achieved anything because despite 30 years you have exactly 1 squadron of planes. you haven't completed anything.

Modi has had 5 years and with a little corruption got some Rafales.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Look, I mock because you and your associate are just the latest in a long line of "going to be" types that have appeared on fora like this. The simple fact is that this project would have been cancelled in any other nation. The fact that your press keeps waffling on about how it is Indigenous (probably why they haven't cancelled it yet) despite it being mostly imported. I mock because the excuses are pitiful.

Look, like I said I can tell you realistically which program, which labs, etc. have problems, but Tejas right now there is too much invested in it for it to be cancelled. FOC, infrastructure, industry ecosystem around the production, industry around the subsystems/future subsystem, government support, decreasing sqd requirement, etc. are there. If you asked about Tejas program when I first joined this forum, I would've gave you a different response. There was a period where I thought it should be shelved as well, but not anymore.

 

[kmc_chacko]

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I think @Keysersoze is living in past... On one hand we Indians are amazed and happy by the way Modi government is breaking and abolishing the INDIAN BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE... FORCEFUL VRS to non performers SARKARI BABUS... and this guy is stuck in 2014... UPA aka SCAMGRESS ERA...

True and fact is there is amazing difference between UPA under MMS to NDA under NaMo.

We use to run behind BEML for orders, but now under MII projects, BEML is willing to give up its hard-line stance on many clauses.

Look, like I said I can tell you realistically which program, which labs, etc. have problems, but Tejas right now there is too much invested in it for it to be cancelled. FOC, infrastructure, industry ecosystem around the production, industry around the subsystems/future subsystem, government support, decreasing sqd requirement, etc. are there. If you asked about Tejas program when I first joined this forum, I would've gave you a different response. There was a period where I thought it should be shelved as well, but not anymore.

Ground realities are different from overviews, let them live in their dream world.

 

[Novice09]

True and fact is there is amazing difference between UPA under MMS to NDA under NaMo.

We use to run behind BEML for orders, but now under MII projects, BEML is willing to give up its hard-line stance on many clauses.

Ground realities are different from overviews, let them live in their dream world.

Honestly speaking... I avoid trolls on this forum (which are high in numbers)... specially the ones who use old links and info to belittle India... Modi's win could be a HINDU UPRISING but the truth is that this happens due to delivery on ground on various fronts...

Now, come back to the point... As per my info... HAL will surely get more orders for Tejas and MK1A is taking shape and trails will start ON TIME... Plus, IAF is ready to induct more MK1 if there is any delay as it has been clearly conveyed to them that MiG 21 needs to be replaced ASAP...
What really surprises me is that from out of no where F-18 comes into the discussion... US has clearly said to some Indian official to BUY American Jet (MANDATORY)... if S 400 decision is not changed... ELSE...

@Keysersoze THINK that Indian establishments (sarkari) are still in those days when a person with POLITICAL CONNECTIONS will head them... will enjoy the benefits and once the tenure is over next one with POLITICAL CONNECTIONS will replace him...

Mr. @Keysersoze I would recommend you to study a little bit about Indian Banking sector... NPA... BAD LOANS... and cleaning done by Modi government... PNB, SBI, BOB and Yes Bank are classic example of rotten system which was there under scamgress...

You can ask your army-men about the changed attitude of IA on LOC and in Kashmir... battle is going on and claims counter claims will keep coming... like as per my source... around 15 Pak soldiers died on LOC in last week... but as per Pakistan 10 soldiers in a different sector...

Things have changed drastically in India and the process is ON... list is long... we can discuss on your area of interest... In a mannered way with Latest proofs...

 

[kmc_chacko]

Honestly speaking... I avoid trolls on this forum (which are high in numbers)... specially the ones who use old links and info to belittle India... Modi's win could be a HINDU UPRISING but the truth is that this happens due to delivery on ground on various fronts...

Now, come back to the point... As per my info... HAL will surely get more orders for Tejas and MK1A is taking shape and trails will start ON TIME... Plus, IAF is ready to induct more MK1 if there is any delay as it has been clearly conveyed to them that MiG 21 needs to be replaced ASAP...
What really surprises me is that from out of no where F-18 comes into the discussion... US has clearly said to some Indian official to BUY American Jet (MANDATORY)... if S 400 decision is not changed... ELSE...

I once suggest a member not fall into trolls trap and Mods promptly deleted saying "its not related to topic" and I understood this forum is no more old PDF.

I have reasons to believe that HAL is transferring technology to Private companies for fastening Tejas production and concentrating on future versions.

with regards to US jets, i feel possibilities are slim considering Indians buying S-400s.

 

[aliaselin]

Indian has imported T700 or T800 level of composite carbon fibers from China? Used by LCA or rockets？

 

[letsrock]

View attachment 571260 Indian has imported T700 or T800 level of composite carbon fibers from China? Used by LCA or rockets？

Could it be bullet proof jackets ? I saw them tom tomming how they can indigenously make bullet proof jackets/

 

[aliaselin]

Could it be bullet proof jackets ? I saw them tom tomming how they can indigenously make bullet proof jackets/

Well, I don't know if bullet proof jackets need this level of carbon fiber. Generally, T800 is used as space material and or in aircraft.