Hafiz Saeed tops Twitter trend in Pakistan for anti-India statements

[jaatram]

You will when you will need to as your PM had when he had to in Sharm al Sheikh.

On a side note, I find it very funny when Indians thinks Pakistan and Pakistani Establishment are two entities. I met another fellow (a colleague) who tried to lecture me on controlling establishment and got silent after listening good words back.

It's not our fault to gave proof to someone who couldn't speak. Smart move by ISI

 

[Secret Service]

but your ISI and army controls your country, the biggest terrorist(Pakistan army chief) is controlling your country..

since when indian slums have wifi facility ..

 

[graphican]

RAW was never behind any terrorism in Pakistan..it is your own doing......
when the general man's up and take things on face value then only things will come to normalcy ......
I m out ...

When you will explain why MQM target killers get their training in India and why Indian weapons are always found whenever there is a tragic incident, you will be able to transform opinion. For now, take it on its face value as it is happening on ground.

 

[jaatram]

RAW was never behind any terrorism in Pakistan..it is your own doing......
when the general man's up and take things on face value then only things will come to normalcy ......
I m out ...

When Hafiz Saeed who hangs out with LeJ ( a group which is killing Shia in Pakistan) tops twitter trend, one gets to know how far people are from reality in Pakistan.

 

[OrionHunter]

You will when you will need to as your PM had when he had to in Sharm al Sheikh.

On a side note, I find it very funny when Indians thinks Pakistan and Pakistani Establishment are two entities. I met another fellow (a colleague) who tried to lecture me on controlling establishment and got silent after listening good words back.

Read....

But Baloch nationalist leaders see things differently. Many have welcomed the Declaration, and called on India to use the opportunity to raise the issue in talks with Pakistan.

Suleiman Khan, the United Kingdom-based heir to the throne of the Khanate of Kalat, is among those who hope that the Declaration will lead to international intervention in the conflict in his province.

“We earnestly hope,” he told The Hindu, “that India will now act on its moral responsibility to raise the Balochistan issue with Pakistan and the world.”

“In this century,” Mr. Khan said, “India has acquired great influence and power. With power come obligations. We are surprised that India, despite claiming that it is a democracy and a supporter of human rights, has so far chosen not to take a proactive role in Balochistan.”

Wahid Baloch, president of the Baloch Society of North America, agreed. “It is imperative,” he says, “for India to now speak up against the terrorism perpetrated by the Pakistan Army in Balochistan.”

“For a variety of reasons,” he argued, “India has been very hesitant to support the Baloch cause, even though among all nations it is the only one to have voiced some concern for our plight. But if Pakistan can provide support for groups in Jammu and Kashmir, and raise the issue on every available international forum, why is India hesitant to do the same for our people?”

Both leaders were insistent that India had no role in supporting Baloch insurgents — but both said New Delhi ought to offer Baloch insurgents military support. “As far as I know,” Mr. Khan said, “there is no Indian support for Baloch freedom fighters. If there were, I would welcome it.”

more here....

Baloch leaders back Manmohan on Sharm el-Sheikh Declaration - The Hindu

 

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But Baloch nationalist leaders see things differently. Many have welcomed the Declaration, and called on India to use the opportunity to raise the issue in talks with Pakistan.

“For a variety of reasons,” he argued, “India has been very hesitant to support the Baloch cause, even though among all nations it is the only one to have voiced some concern for our plight. But if Pakistan can provide support for groups in Jammu and Kashmir, and raise the issue on every available international forum, why is India hesitant to do the same for our people?”

It is not important that terrorists think, it is important why India agreed not to interfere in Baluchistan.

Kashmir is Internationally known dispute - listed in United Nations while Baluchistan is not. You poke with our territory with poke back to your territories. You want freedom of Baluchistan at the cost of loosing Nexal states and Kashmir? I hope India is not that stupid.

 

[OrionHunter]

Indian fabricated news and opinion no longer holds any weight with Pakistanis.

And Pakistani fabricated news and opinion no longer holds any weight with Indians.

 

[45'22']

When you will explain why MQM target killers get their training in India and why Indian weapons are always found whenever there is a tragic incident, you will be able to transform opinion. For now, take it on its face value as it is happening on ground.

You say they are trained......give me the name of a place where you think they are trained or there is a training camp
Have you ever caught a MQM member who has ever acknowledged that RAW was involved...

Whatever is happening in Pakistan is sectarian and RAW has got nothing to do with it
the sooner you understand this ,the quicker you will resolve the mess

When Hafiz Saeed who hangs out with LeJ ( a group which is killing Shia in Pakistan) tops twitter trend, one gets to know how far people are from reality in Pakistan.

The way the people are behaving these days in PDF , one can actually see how brainwashed they are...

A couple of years back I used to think that not all are like this but now my perception is changing at a vast rate....
even Oscar is behaving insane and asking for terrorism in India

 

[OrionHunter]

It is not important that terrorists think, it is important why India agreed not to interfere in Baluchistan.

Balochis are terrorists? If you consider Kashmiris, 'freedom fighters', then the Balochis are freedom fighters too!

 

[graphican]

You say they are trained......give me the name of a place where you think they are trained or there is a training camp
Have you ever caught a MQM member who has ever acknowledged that RAW was involved...

Whatever is happening in Pakistan is sectarian and RAW has got nothing to do with it
the sooner you understand this ,the quicker you will resolve the mess

You tube it, they have admitted getting training in India with details.

The sooner we understand RAW's involvement and cut it into pieces, the soon we will be able to settle these issues. The biggest mistake RAW had is not it terrorized Pakistan, the biggest mistake it made is it couldn't hide itself anymore.

Indian ammunition found in karachi - Google Search

Balochis are terrorists? If you consider Kashmiris, 'freedom fighters', then the Balochis are freedom fighters too!

You think youo'r funny?

 

[Bratva]

You say they are trained......give me the name of a place where you think they are trained or there is a training camp
Have you ever caught a MQM member who has ever acknowledged that RAW was involved...

Whatever is happening in Pakistan is sectarian and RAW has got nothing to do with it
the sooner you understand this ,the quicker you will resolve the mess


The way the people are behaving these days in PDF , one can actually see how brainwashed they are...

A couple of years back I used to think that not all are like this but now my perception is changing at a vast rate....
even Oscar is behaving insane and asking for terrorism in India

What was IA MI TSD doing in Pakistan then when they conducted 8 deep cover ops ?

Balochis are terrorists? If you consider Kashmiris, 'freedom fighters', then the Balochis are freedom fighters too!

By same definition Assame, Nagaland and maoist are freedom fighters as well

 

[45'22']

You tube it, they have admitted getting training in India with details.

The sooner we understand RAW's involvement and cut it into pieces, the soon we will be able to settle these issues. The biggest mistake RAW had is not it terrorized Pakistan, the biggest mistake it made is it couldn't hide itself anymore.

Indian ammunition found in karachi - Google Search



You think youo'r funny?

Think it logically Graphican

RAW is a professional agency ....Will they risk their operations by using Indian arms when you can find everything is Pakistan quite easily ranging from Dara guns to rocket launchers.....Are the agents that stupid???

I don't know about the video....please post the link ....after seeing it only I can comment anything

What was IA MI TSD doing in Pakistan then when they conducted 8 deep cover ops ?



By same definition Assame, Nagaland and maoist are freedom fighters as well

I never said that RAW is not present in Pakistan...hell yes,they are....
the technical support division was also there and it undertook 8 different covert ops to.....but no where it says that we did blasts and killed common people.......

Covert operation could be of any type from intelligence gathering to nabbing a terrorist.....It necessarily doesn't has to be bombing.....

Even no major bombings or anything of that sort happened when TSD was operational ....

So I don't think that RAW is involved in the sectarian violence in Pakistan

 

[Bratva]

Think it logically Graphican

RAW is a professional agency ....Will they risk their operations by using Indian arms when you can find everything is Pakistan quite easily ranging from Dara guns to rocket launchers.....Are the agents that stupid???

I don't know about the video....please post the link ....after seeing it only I can comment anything


I never said that RAW is not present in Pakistan...hell yes,they are....
the technical support division was also there and it undertook 8 different covert ops to.....but no where it says that we did blasts and killed common people.......

Covert operation could be of any type from intelligence gathering to nabbing a terrorist.....It necessarily doesn't has to be bombing.....

Even no major bombings or anything of that sort happened when TSD was operational ....

So I don't think that RAW is involved in the sectarian violence in Pakistan

US exit: India steps up Afghan army training

The training includes counter-terrorism operations, military field-craft, signals, intelligence, counter-IED, information technology

US exit: India steps up Afghan army training - The Times of India\

Secret military intelligence unit ran 8 covert operations abroad?

Technical Support Division (TSD), the secretive military intelligence unit set up by former Army chief General V K Singh which is accused of trying to overthrow the Omar Abdullahgovernment, has claimed to have carried out at least eight successful covert operations in a foreign country.

But the claims are so sensitive and sensational that it would be a key reason why the government will not hand over the inquiry report into the functioning of TSD to an external investigation agency.

According to sources, among the most sensational claims in the report is that the TSD carried out eight specific covert operations in a foreign country. It has claimed to have spent a few crores on those operations

Secret military intelligence unit ran 8 covert operations abroad? - The Times of India

MI operatives moved into Tajikistan and later Afghanistan in support of the Ahmad Shah Massoud-led Northern Alliance that overthrew the Taliban in 2001.Besides furthering national strategic goals, MI officials say these 'third country operations' allowed the agency to peep into countries of their immediate interest.

How Indian Army's Military Intelligence Directorate works : Special Report - India Today

Ravi Datt Mehta (1955 – 7 July 2008) was a brigadier in the Indian army. He died in the suicide bombingof the Indian Embassy in Kabul while serving as India's Defence Attaché to Afghanistanon 7 July 2008. Brig. Mehta had earlier also served as the head of the Indian Army's Intelligence Corps in the state of Jammu and Kashmir


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Monday, January 09, 2006

New Delhi fuelling Balochistan violence, says Musharraf

* President ‘annoyed’ and ‘disappointed’ by Indian involvement

NEW DELHI: President Pervez Musharraf accused India on Sunday of arming and financing militants in Balochistan, charges that could push back a peace process between the two countries.

When asked whether India was backing armed Baloch militants, Musharraf told the CNN-IBNchannel in an interview aired on Sunday: “There are lot of indications, yes indeed.” There is a “lot of financial support, support in kind being given to those who are anti-government, anti-me and to those feudal people who are anti-national”, the president said.

The Pakistan Army launched a crackdown against militants in Balochistan after a December 14 rocket attack while Musharraf was visiting the region. Baloch nationalists say that 200 people have since been killed, but the government has not commented on casualties.

Musharraf said that he was “annoyed” and “disappointed” by Indian government statements and alleged actions in Balochistan. “It’s a direct interference in our internal affairs,” he told CNN-IBN.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\01\09\story_9-1-2006_pg1_1

Musharraf expressed hope that the exchange over Balochistan would not hurt the peace process between Pakistan and India. “It should not be a setback to the process of dialogue of resolution (of disputes),” he said.

A spat erupted this month after India expressed concerns about the situation in Balochistan. New Delhi had said last month that it noted with “concern” reports of the use of gunships and jet fighters in Balochistan, and hoped that Islamabad would show “restraint” in the matter.

Pakistan had responded by accusing India of “an unacceptable proclivity to interfere in the internal affairs of its neighbours”. “Such tendency is contrary to efforts aimed at building an environment of trust, peace and stability in South Asia,” Foreign Office spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam had said.

Musharraf had termed India’s comments “intriguing”, adding: “We know who is financing and supplying weapons.”

India on Saturday rejected earlier Pakistani charges of involvement in Balochistan. “As far as any allegations about India’s interference in Balochistan are concerned, I would like to categorically reject these allegations as utterly baseless and false,” Indian Foreign Ministry spokesman Navtej Sarna said.

Opposition parties in Balochistan have accused the government of using helicopter gunships and warplanes to rocket and bomb civilians in Kohlu and Dera Bugti.

On Friday, Federal Information Minister and the president’s chief spokesman Sheikh Rashid had said that good relations with neighbours have kept Pakistan from making public evidence of the involvement of foreign countries in the Balochistan insurgency.

“We have evidence that foreign countries are involved,” he told a news conference in Peshawar. “But we don’t want to spoil the good relations we have with our neighbours.” reuters
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Pakistan has officially handed over the evident proofs regarding the meetings between RAW agents and Fazal Ullah, the report said, adding that the Banned outfits like Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA), Balochistan Liberation Front and Balochistan Republican Army are also being supported and directly financed by India’s RAW to inflame the liberation movements in the province.

The Pakistani authorities have claimed that there are multiple training camps of RAW to provide military training to the Baloch separatists in Kabul, Kandahar and Nimruz- the confirmed intel reports of which have been given to the Afghan agencies.

The Afghan government officials have not commented regarding the report so far.

“Kill Mullah Fazlullah or allow us to do so”, Pakistan asks Afghan govt - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

 

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Think it logically Graphican

RAW is a professional agency ....Will they risk their operations by using Indian arms when you can find everything is Pakistan quite easily ranging from Dara guns to rocket launchers.....Are the agents that stupid???

I don't know about the video....please post the link ....after seeing it only I can comment anything

You got to ask them - for now they are open as naked on ground.

Rangers team seizes ‘Indian weapons’ from MQM office - The Express Tribune

Rangers recover Indian weapons from MQM office

Rangers Team Seizes Indian weapons From MQM Office | Baaghi TV, Pakistan

 

[OrionHunter]

It is not important that terrorists think, it is important why India agreed not to interfere in Baluchistan.

Kashmir is Internationally known dispute - listed in United Nations.

If Kashmir is an Internationally known dispute, then how come Pakistan has allowed China to build infrastructure in Kashmir which is disputed territory, with such impunity? What gave Pakistan the right to do so? Technically Kashmir does not belong to Pakistan. So under which rules and regulations have you done so?