Greek soldiers fire warning shots at migrants near Evros

[Constantin84]

What if she offered them money to do what she wanted you to see.

We can make up thousands of theories or, believe what we see.Even if they did it for money, they're still sick people.Would you do that to your child for money?

 

[Baba_Yaga]

Assad is Syria's version of Saddam. Toppling the tyrant will simply create a rat race for the next tyrant. Russia and Iran are simply helping their tyrant like they have always done. Without pretending to be altruistic, the rest of the world can let the middle east sort their own mess.

No they cannot. Why should they bear the burden of 2-3 million refugees? If Iran and Russia want to keep the tyrant, fine, but then take in the refugees that come with it. Why should some place like Italy or Greece or Germany with no stake whatsoever in the conflict accept millions of refugees.

 

[Wood]

No they cannot. Why should they bear the burden of 2-3 million refugees? If Iran and Russia want to keep the tyrant, fine, but then take in the refugees that come with it. Why should some place like Italy or Greece or Germany with no stake whatsoever in the conflict accept millions of refugees.

Refugees are a result of the civil war that was started with US encouragement. The blame for the refugees cannot be placed on players like Iran and Russia (who have always been supporting Assad). It is only when US started fanning the flames of Arab Spring that shit hit the fan.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Refugees are a result of the civil war that was started with US encouragement. The blame for the refugees cannot be placed on players like Iran and Russia (who have always been supporting Assad). It is only when US started fanning the flames of Arab Spring that shit hit the fan.

The blame starts and ends with the illegal Syrian regime.
Refugees are a result of the civil war that was started with the encouragement of the success in Tunisia, and the apparent success in Egypt. The US had to be dragged into this, because Obama could not see any reasonable group to support. It took almost two years before the US got seriously involved. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore.
Public Opinion forced him into some token support with TOW missiles when the regime started to use tanks. CIA started training some rebels, but this was a total fiasco, producing maybe two dozen troops, which quickly deserted. Meanwhile the KSA and Gulf states provided massive support to the al-Nusra, to overcome the Iranian and Hezbollah mercenaries.
The US only got seriously involved in the fight against ISIS in 2014 and the Kurds were more receptive to US support.
The Syrian situation is more or less homemade in the Middle East.

 

[Wood]

The blame starts and ends with the illegal Syrian regime.
Refugees are a result of the civil war that was started with the encouragement of the success in Tunisia, and the apparent success in Egypt. The US had to be dragged into this, because Obama could not see any reasonable group to support. It took almost two years before the US got seriously involved. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore.
Public Opinion forced him into some token support with TOW missiles when the regime started to use tanks. CIA started training some rebels, but this was a total fiasco, producing maybe two dozen troops, which quickly deserted. Meanwhile the KSA and Gulf states provided massive support to the al-Nusra, to overcome the Iranian and Hezbollah mercenaries.
The US only got seriously involved in the fight against ISIS in 2014 and the Kurds were more receptive to US support.
The Syrian situation is more or less homemade in the Middle East.

The sentiment of your reply does not seem to align with the wiki link that you've posted.

CIA's bumbling stupidity in Syria has been well documented since 2012. I cannot find a better source than what you've just cited to support the assertion that US fanned the flames of Syrian civil war.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The only reason for the situation to be bad are the evil Sunnis and Shias that want to grab power without respect for people not sharing their fanatism.

You have quite the gall to be posting such openly sectarian bigoted statements on a Pakistani forum.

At the time of the invasion, Iraq was bankrupt, with $125B in dept, mostly because of the war with Iran.

I wonder why that was? Lol. Who do you think promised him full support and yet played the Iran-Contra affair against him.

Why should some place like Italy or Greece or Germany with no stake whatsoever in the conflict accept millions of refugees.

That is where you are wrong. Germany and France are to blame for adding fuel to the conflict and funding terrorists like PKK and letting Daesh soldiers from their countries enter Syria.

Greece is to blame for antagonizing Turkey and blocking any sort of compromise between both sides.

The US only got seriously involved in the fight against ISIS in 2014 and the Kurds were more receptive to US support.

As always, US motives are always altruistic and cannot be doubted. We have plenty of proof to the contrary, US was instrumental in the rise of Daesh and also PKK terror safe havens in Syria.

 

[Baba_Yaga]

You have quite the gall to be posting such openly sectarian bigoted statements on a Pakistani forum.



I wonder why that was? Lol. Who do you think promised him full support and yet played the Iran-Contra affair against him.



That is where you are wrong. Germany and France are to blame for adding fuel to the conflict and funding terrorists like PKK and letting Daesh soldiers from their countries enter Syria.

Greece is to blame for antagonizing Turkey and blocking any sort of compromise between both sides.



As always, US motives are always altruistic and cannot be doubted. We have plenty of proof to the contrary, US was instrumental in the rise of Daesh and also PKK terror safe havens in Syria.

Turkey was the king of Daesh. Almost every foreign ISIS soldier entered through Turkey. There were also reports of Turkey assisting ISIS fighters from time to time when it suited them, especially in their fight against Kurds. A lot of NATO weapons including manpads found their way to ISIS through Turkey.

Lmao, and Greece is to blame for antagonizing Turkey? And why should Greece try to pacify Turkey? Greece couldn't give 2 hoots about Turkey. Just because Pakistanis idolize Turkey, don't expect other countries to do the same. Greece and Turkey have fought for centuries, they owe nothing to one another.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Turkey was the king of Daesh. Almost every foreign ISIS soldier entered through Turkey. There were also reports of Turkey assisting ISIS fighters from time to time when it suited them, especially in their fight against Kurds. A lot of NATO weapons including manpads found their way to ISIS through Turkey.

Lmao, and Greece is to blame for antagonizing Turkey? And why should Greece try to pacify Turkey? Greece couldn't give 2 hoots about Turkey. Just because Pakistanis idolize Turkey, don't expect other countries to do the same. Greece and Turkey have fought for centuries, they owe nothing to one another.

Your proof are reports? Lol, this is not Bollywood media where you just need to scream Muslims to get ratings.

Creator of Daesh is none other than US and Israel, who benefited most from Daesh's rise. Even Ban Ki Moon UN chief criticized IDF ties of Daesh as troubling.

Turkey was supporting FSA, whom Daesh attacked, and it gave the Assad regime a second life. Daesh and Assad regime never attacked each other. Later US replaced Daesh with PKK, which would have not been possible initially.

If Greeks want to increase tensions with Turkey, then get ready for escalation. Dont cry like babies.

We remember how Greece cried when Republic of Turkey defeated their invasion of Anatolia, they begged Europeans to force Turkey to stop. They are still doing the same in Cyprus.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You have quite the gall to be posting such openly sectarian bigoted statements on a Pakistani forum.

You have any doubt that people blowing up children with hidden explosives are evil?
I am pointing out that there are evil people on both sides, not that all Sunnis and Shias are evil.

 

[Nein]

Turkey was the king of Daesh. Almost every foreign ISIS soldier entered through Turkey. There were also reports of Turkey assisting ISIS fighters from time to time when it suited them, especially in their fight against Kurds. A lot of NATO weapons including manpads found their way to ISIS through Turkey.

Lmao, and Greece is to blame for antagonizing Turkey? And why should Greece try to pacify Turkey? Greece couldn't give 2 hoots about Turkey. Just because Pakistanis idolize Turkey, don't expect other countries to do the same. Greece and Turkey have fought for centuries, they owe nothing to one another.

A lot of european countries admitted they could have stopped would be isis fighters from going to the front but instead allowed them because it was better to get rid of them then keeping them in the country. Not to mention many europeans disguised themselves as tourists went and joined pkk or isis.

You guys have a lot to blame then again a lot of your european terrorists got what they deserved which was a bullet to the head from a Turkish made bullet.

 

[Hamza913]

How about Muslim women marrying white men? You know what? I already know you are gonna say no. So, here is another question,what do you think is gonna happen if all(or most of) the Muslim men marry non Muslim Europeans? Who is gonna marry all those single Muslim women? Now please don't tell me Muslim men are allowed 4 wives because guys like you can't even seem to get one wife let alone 4.

PS: Would you say the same thing about Muslim men marrying black non Muslim women to have supposedly Muslim offsprings? Or is it only for white ?

Hey dont say these kind of depressing words. I will InshALLAH. I need tonhave a good job first


Relax. They are just few thousands

The Chad "we will Islamise Europe via sexual conquest" vs the beta male "noooooooooo it's immoral"

However,the imposture is that the vast majority of those showing up at Greece's borders are young and mostly Pakistani,Iranian and Afghans men who think their aggressivity will earn them any sympathy or entry to Greece and the EU.

I highly doubt that most of them are anything other than Syrian Arabs, unless ofc you have access to some sort of demographic survey which I'm unaware of.

NO ONE should be able to enter a sovereign territory ILLEGALLY

laughs in NATO

You guys are so oblivious to the hypocrisy that it's downright comical.

 

[Nein]

Greek special forces have been sent lmaooooooo

 

[Vergennes]

Greek special forces have been sent lmaooooooo

You are mistaken if you thought the Greeks would tolerate the Turkish sponsored invasion attempt.

If we other Europeans had any kind of self respect we would also send our police and armies to the Greek border.

 

[Nein]

You are mistaken if you thought the Greeks would tolerate the Turkish sponsored invasion attempt.

If we other Europeans had any kind of self respect we would also send our police and armies to the Greek border.

Ahh yes the 300 gay spartans vs unarmed refugees

 

[Vergennes]

Ahh yes the 300 gay spartans vs unarmed refugees

As I see you guys are disappointed by the fact that the "refugee" flooding didn't go as planned.