Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

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We start again the advertising campaign of the turkish military material, which is nothing but a reverse engineering and assembly of componets that depends from foreign parts.

Another jealousy from Greeks

Go develop even a Cruise Missile then come and say someting about great Turkish Defense Industry with over 750 military projects


ROKETSAN - TUBITAK-SAGE ( Cruise missile , Anti-ship missile , Air Defense missile , Air to Air missile , Anti-Tank missile , and many more )

Full of Turkish Engineering and technology
no any dependence from foreign parts for Missiles

-- Design and development
-- IIR and RF seeker
-- Turbojet Engine
-- JP-10 type missile fuel
-- KEMENT national data link
-- Inertial Measurement Unit

only a few Countries in the world .....

 

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We, all alone, break the *** of all the muslims terrorist in Sahara region.

not even close to compare with Turkish Army against USA-France backed PKK/YPG in İraq-Syria , against ISIS in Syria , against Russia-İran backed SAA+IRGC+Hezbolah in Syria and against HAFTAR+WAGNER+The Uae in Libya

I hope a better success than the 1500HP engine of your tank...

Turkish Army has enough Tank power ... no problem
We can wait for 3 years indigenous BMC POWER 1500 hp Engine for ALTAY Tank

Our 250+ UCAVs are enough to destroy enemy Tanks

 

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increase from 40 to 56 km this year, then 72 km

To take with a pinch of salt....

Or it needs to remove the barrel every 10 fires...

 

[Akritas]

Turkey promotes geopolitical competition with the spearhead of the falsification of history. But for the Hellenic Republic there can be no future without knowledge of the past. The example of Ukraine has shown that Europe is already paying a heavy price for what it wrongly devalues. Europe and NATO should not make the same mistake with Turkey, and especially let Greece not. Turkish allegations must be crushed by Greece in all international steps as was recently done at the UN. The full utilization of the historical and legal toolbox is the Greek dominant weapon.

Greek politicians need to understand that. But it is even more necessary to formulate a common national strategy, based on this knowledge. A country cannot peacefully defend its national rights when its politicians do not bother to agree on exactly what those rights are. Any delay in such an agreement undermines our national interest.

 

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in 2000s Greeks : We have superior weapons Leopard2-HEL , AH-64 Apache , Type-214 , AEWC , Mirage-2000 , F-16 block52+ , PATRIOT , S300 , SCALP , EXOCET



in 2020s Turks : Ok Yorgi , We have also superior weapons TB-2 , AKINCI , BORA , TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , SOM , ATMACA , T-129 , Boeing E-7T AEWC , ADA class stealth Corvette , GABYA Frigate, KORAL , HISAR-A/O , S400 , etc

also in 2022-2023

-- Type-214TN class AIP Submarine
-- TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- HAVASOJ stand off jammer Aircraft
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile
-- CAKIR next gen Cruise Missile
-- KARA-ATMACA ground launched Cruise Missile
-- ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile System


geographic superiority
strategic superiority
quantity superiority
range and platform superiority
etc
etc

 

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2 Game changer Weapons to block Hellenic Navy and Helenic Air Force in the Aegean and in the Eastern Mediterranean




ATMACA and S-400 will act as Turkiye’s defense umbrella and the main constituent of TAF’s defense grid, giving it all-round protection against adversary threats including RAFALE Fighter Jets and BELHARRA Frigates


1-- ) The S-400’s kill reportedly set a world record for the longest range ever for a Fighter Jet shootdown

The S-400 shoot down Ukrainian SU-27 from 150+ km ranges


2--) IIR guided ATMACA Missile increasing its performance in the Aegean Sea

The land-based version of the ATMACA anti-ship Missile is outfitted with an Imaging Infrared seeker (IIR) and an image processing function that allows the missile to take out targets positioned near islands

The RF guided, sea-based version lacks this capability




ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile System
Warhead : 250 kg
Range : 250 km
Seeker : IIR
Speed : high subsonic

-- super sea skimming ( below 3 m )
-- zigzag maneuver that makes it difficult for anti missile batteries

S400 Air Defense System
Radar range : 600 km
Firing range : 400 km (40N6E missile)
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : Mach 3.5

The S-400 is able to destroy any incoming hostile Fighter Jets , AEWCs within a range of up to 400 km

 

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in 2000s Greeks : We have superior weapons Leopard2-HEL , AH-64 Apache , Type-214 , AEWC , Mirage-2000 , F-16 block52+ , PATRIOT , S300 , SCALP , EXOCET



in 2020s Turks : Ok Yorgi , We have also superior weapons TB-2 , AKINCI , BORA , TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , SOM , ATMACA , T-129 , Boeing E-7T AEWC , ADA class stealth Corvette , GABYA Frigate, KORAL , HISAR-A/O , S400 , etc

also in 2022-2023

-- Type-214TN class AIP Submarine
-- TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- HAVASOJ stand off jammer Aircraft
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile
-- CAKIR next gen Cruise Missile
-- KARA-ATMACA ground launched Cruise Missile
-- ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile System


geographic superiority
strategic superiority
quantity superiority
range and platform superiority
etc
etc

Probably, but NATO is now on the greek side and beware of Turkey.
You are no more seen as a loyal partner. You remain in the NATO org just to avoid to go in the russian camp.

in 2000s Greeks : We have superior weapons Leopard2-HEL , AH-64 Apache , Type-214 , AEWC , Mirage-2000 , F-16 block52+ , PATRIOT , S300 , SCALP , EXOCET



in 2020s Turks : Ok Yorgi , We have also superior weapons TB-2 , AKINCI , BORA , TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , SOM , ATMACA , T-129 , Boeing E-7T AEWC , ADA class stealth Corvette , GABYA Frigate, KORAL , HISAR-A/O , S400 , etc

also in 2022-2023

-- Type-214TN class AIP Submarine
-- TCG ANADOLU Amphibious Assault Ship
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- HAVASOJ stand off jammer Aircraft
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile
-- CAKIR next gen Cruise Missile
-- KARA-ATMACA ground launched Cruise Missile
-- ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile System


geographic superiority
strategic superiority
quantity superiority
range and platform superiority
etc
etc

2022 + : Turkey without a up to date air force (no F35, even the F16 V LMU is not so evident as uncle Sam knows you will purchase more S400...)

2022 + : you forget new FDI frigates on the Greek side, as Rafale and probably F35.

The S-400 shoot down Ukrainian SU-27 from 150+ km ranges

Between 150° km and the 400km in the marketing brochure there is a big difference.

And as seen in Ukraine : the russian products are not so effective. To destroy a SU27 is something, to do the same on a modern west fighter another.

 

[Akritas]

At the moment, the Russian S400s are in Ankara, to provide anti-aircraft protection to Sultan Erdogan, in case he is attacked by a Turkish FETO F16, as was done in 2016 during the coup.

 

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2022 + : Turkey without a up to date air force (no F35, even the F16 V LMU is not so evident as uncle Sam knows you will purchase more S400...)

2022 + : you forget new FDI frigates on the Greek side, as Rafale and probably F35.

İf You are talking about 2028-2030 ( 4 FDI , 85 F-16V and probably F35 )


then Turkiye is not sleeping

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
TFX air superiority Fighter Jet
F-16 modernization by indigenous AESA Radar and Systems with Ramjet powered GOKHAN long range air to air Missile

S400 Air Defense System
SIPER Air Defense System
TF-2000 class AW Destroyer
4 ISTIF class stealth Frigates
4 modernized MEKO-200 Frigates ( more stealth design )


Good luck ....

 

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Between 150° km and the 400km in the marketing brochure there is a big difference.

And as seen in Ukraine : the russian products are not so effective. To destroy a SU27 is something, to do the same on a modern west fighter another.

Even outdated S-125 turned American F-117 stealth Attack Aircraft into crap of metal in Serbia

Even outdated S-200 turned İsraeli F-16 into crap of metal in Syria


so S400 easly can turn F-16V and RAFALE into crap of metal


btw not marketing brochure but firing tests with 40N6E missile ( range of 400 km )

 

[Akritas]

Even outdated S-200 turned İsraeli F-16 into crap of metal in Syria

Now imagine what a outdated S300 or a modernized Patriot or a Meteor, can do to a present Turkish outdated F16.....into.......

 

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2022 + : you forget new FDI frigates on the Greek side, as Rafale and probably F35.

better you worry about Greece how to match with the Turkish Armed Forces



4 FDI Frigates never can match with the Turkish Armed Forces

4 ISTIF class stealth Frigates
4 modernized MEKO-200 Frigates ( more stealth design )
250 km ATMACA Coastal Defense Missile
150 km CAKIR Coastal Defense Missile

and F-16 , HURJET , AKINCI armed with SOM , CAKIR , TRLG-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , HARM , AKBABA Missiles



85 F-16V and 24 RAFALE never can match with the Turkish Armed Forces

36 S400 Air Defense Systems with 192 Missiles ( 144 missiles are ready to fire ) 1st batch
36 S400 Air Defense Systems with 192 Missiles ( 144 missiles are ready to fire ) 2nd batch
120 km SIPER Air Defense System

35+79 AESA Radar modernized F-16s by Turkiye ( 114 F-16V standard )
maybe also 40 new F-16V

KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet by 2025 to carry 100-200 km GOKDOGAN-GOKHAN air to air Missiles

TF-2000 Air Warfare Destroyers armed with 120 km SIPER air defense Missiles

 

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Now imagine what a outdated S300 or a modernized Patriot or a Meteor, can do to a present Turkish outdated F16.....into.......

So funny
S300 and PATRIOT have no enough range to hit Turkish F-16s armed with 280 km SOM and SLAM-ER Cruise Missiles



1 -- ) S300s in Crete will be destroyed by BORA , SOM , KARA ATMACA , KARGI , SLAM-ER

2 -- ) PATRIOTs in Skyros will be destroyed by BORA ,TRG-300 , SOM , KARA ATMACA , HARM , KARGI

3 -- ) in the Agean Sea , Turkish F-16s will be under S400 protection which can turn Greek Rafales into crap of metal



Better worry about how to stop 1.000 + BORA , ATACMS , SOM , SLAM-ER , HARM , KARGI , POPEYE , KGK-LR , SDM-IIR , TRLG-230 , TRG-300 , HARPOON Block-II , KARA ATMACA

Also 150 km CAKIR and 250 km KUZGUN-TJ Missiles on the way


Turkiye has the 2nd strongest missile fire power in NATO after USA

 

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Greek PATRIOT Air Defense Systems are not threat to Turkish F-16s anymore




Greek Island Skyros hosts PATRIOT Air Defense Systems

PATRIOTs in Skyros are not safe now .
because BORA , TRG-300 , SOM , KARA ATMACA, KARGI have been developed by Turkiye in the last 7 years

120-280-1.000 km

Also 150 km CAKIR and 250 km KUZGUN-TJ Missiles with IIR seeker ( on the way ) to be launched from land-naval-air platforms to hit PATRIOTs in Skyros

 

[musti]

Hang rings over there . It seems missile will be launched from aircraft.

TuRAF has SOM systems. l coludnt get why this missile will be builded.